New Avatars Are Coming

Just as i suspected!

Have to consider the positives of Atomos too, If he does what he does during the BCNM (Drains Enemies stats to 1, and gives them to player) then it would be quite more useful than people expect.

Lowering an NMs/HNMs Stats to 1 and giving that ~80+ stat to players in range would give Abyssea-level Stat boost while nerfing the mob. Could be quite powerful when used properly.

Actually quite excited about Cait Sith being a "walk around" pet.

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Originally Posted by Camate

Hey all! Got a bit of information from the development team about the new avatars that are incoming in a future version update.

While we don't have too many specifics to share because things are still in the planning stages, the current plan is to make Cait Sith an avatar similar to the likes of Carbuncle, where you can go into battle with Cait Sith at your side. Atomos on the other hand would be similar to Odin and Alexander in that he is used solely for his 2 hour ability.

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Thanks for the update Camate! Many people were curious to hear how these two would be implemented.

I'm very happy to have Cait Sith fight beside me. We grew quite close during the WotG Missions :) And she is too cute!

Atomos as a 2hr avatar was expected. I just hope that his move is quite powerful and usable on NM/HNMs. I doubt we will be able to lower HNM stats to 1, but they should be lowered by at least half I think. It would also be a nice touch if the absorbed stats were split between party members in range.

I don't know if that is too difficult to do of course, but it would give SMNs another alternative in zerg type situations besides just Alexander. We use Alexander when the party is capable of doing damage, but not surviving the foes attacks. Atomos would be the opposite. The party needs to lower the NMs stats (and raise their own) in order to do enough damage. Odin is a bit trickier. I almost never use him now, so I'm not sure where he really shines. (Shiva is better for group damage in Abyssea and he apparently is resisted by a lot of NM's ;^^)

And if possible, could I make one request? Could Odin, Alex and Atomos have strong Resist traits, similar to Diabolos' Resist Sleep? It would be quite sad to summon our ultimate avatars, only to have a mob cast Sleepga as they ready their move.

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Originally Posted by Camate

Hey all! Got a bit of information from the development team about the new avatars that are incoming in a future version update.

While we don't have too many specifics to share because things are still in the planning stages, the current plan is to make Cait Sith an avatar similar to the likes of Carbuncle, where you can go into battle with Cait Sith at your side. Atomos on the other hand would be similar to Odin and Alexander in that he is used solely for his 2 hour ability.

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While I'm honestly against what I'm going to say, it would be kind of fitting if Cait Sith's 2 hour actually was to summon Atomos.

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Originally Posted by Camate

Hey all! Got a bit of information from the development team about the new avatars that are incoming in a future version update.

While we don't have too many specifics to share because things are still in the planning stages, the current plan is to make Cait Sith an avatar similar to the likes of Carbuncle, where you can go into battle with Cait Sith at your side. Atomos on the other hand would be similar to Odin and Alexander in that he is used solely for his 2 hour ability.

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I'll take it.

Atomos seems like he would have been a weird one to have following you around anyway.

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Originally Posted by Malamasala

While I'm honestly against what I'm going to say, it would be kind of fitting if Cait Sith's 2 hour actually was to summon Atomos.

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To be honest, I thought that is what they were going to do too. It will be fun to think up a new 2hr for Cait Sith though. :)

Iono, Level ??? Holy seems like an appropriate 2 hour for a light based avatar. Moderate to Heavy AoE light magical damage.

time to exp smn *_*

urge to have Caith Sith raising...

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Originally Posted by Zargosa

Iono, Level ??? Holy seems like an appropriate 2 hour for a light based avatar. Moderate to Heavy AoE light magical damage.

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So was Laser shower, but SE thought perfect defense was a better idea. Probably because doing damage would be a bit silly as an option to Odins death/damage move.

If you were allowed to pick any 2 hour for Cait sith though, I'd go with something that involves all 9 in some bizarre animation of a cat fight.

Honestly, I'm surprised SMN isn't getting Ixion as well. Unless they explained him in WotG's storyline, which I need to finish, he seem seems like a loose end.

Thank you. As much as I love Carbuncle, he was always designed to be a weak avatar, and we haven't had a good light avatar. This fixes one of my biggest complaints.

They should give Cait Sith some dialogue while he's out walking around. A little chatter.

Afterall, he was a bit more prevalent in the storyline than some other avatars. More important.

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Originally Posted by Camate

Hey all! Got a bit of information from the development team about the new avatars that are incoming in a future version update.

While we don't have too many specifics to share because things are still in the planning stages, the current plan is to make Cait Sith an avatar similar to the likes of Carbuncle, where you can go into battle with Cait Sith at your side. Atomos on the other hand would be similar to Odin and Alexander in that he is used solely for his 2 hour ability.

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Thank you for taking the time to respond to us.

Atomos is a letdown, but is there any way you can give us any information about the movesets for Cait Sith? And what Atomos's 2hr will be?

I get the feeling that Atomos's move will be similar to his ability in that one fight. Ala, he sucks stats from surrounding enemies and gives them to you/your party.

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Originally Posted by Korpg

Thank you for taking the time to respond to us.

Atomos is a letdown, but is there any way you can give us any information about the movesets for Cait Sith? And what Atomos's 2hr will be?

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I get the impression he can only really talk about things that are somewhat set in stone. Getting avatars is, pacts isn't.

Not that I'd mind them telling me things that end up false later. I'm quite used to never get what I expected anyway.

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Originally Posted by Malamasala

I get the impression he can only really talk about things that are somewhat set in stone. Getting avatars is, pacts isn't.

Not that I'd mind them telling me things that end up false later. I'm quite used to never get what I expected anyway.

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As long as the plan still calls for a light avatar that isn't just a 2 hour, I'm happy.

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Originally Posted by Camate

the current plan is to make Cait Sith an avatar similar to the likes of Carbuncle, where you can go into battle with Cait Sith at your side. Atomos on the other hand would be similar to Odin and Alexander in that he is used solely for his 2 hour ability.

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1/2 usefull pets is better than 0/2 I guess.

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Originally Posted by Malamasala

I get the impression he can only really talk about things that are somewhat set in stone. Getting avatars is, pacts isn't.

Not that I'd mind them telling me things that end up false later. I'm quite used to never get what I expected anyway.

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Most don't mind being told "Well we're probably going to do this", but you will get a few that will get in an uproar over "promised" things, that are different upon implementation.

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Originally Posted by Inafking

1/2 usefull pets is better than 0/2 I guess.

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Depends on what Atomos does tbh, I fully expected him to be either 2hr only or part of Cait Sith(Called for 2hr).

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Originally Posted by Karbuncle

Just as i suspected!

Have to consider the positives of Atomos too, If he does what he does during the BCNM (Drains Enemies stats to 1, and gives them to player) then it would be quite more useful than people expect.

Lowering an NMs/HNMs Stats to 1 and giving that ~80+ stat to players in range would give Abyssea-level Stat boost while nerfing the mob. Could be quite powerful when used properly.

Actually quite excited about Cait Sith being a "walk around" pet.

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My thoughts as well, I do think maybe mob stats wont be lowered to 1...but who knows until we can actual test it. I'm sure it wouldn't be to far from imba. Boosting player stats will do considerable damage for sure. I do fear zerging has already come and gone though...in regards to Atomos.

Extremely interested in how the cat will perform. I'm actually kinda scared from the moves we see in game don't seem that appealing to me.

i can see the cat being underpowered like carby is and is gonna be no more then eye candy, atmos will most likey be the main prize in the whole thing.

Cait Sith has a move that inflicts Amnesia. That alone would be worth the addition if they make it stick on NMs.
They'll have to come up with new moves for her though as 4 BPs+ 2hr aren't nearly enough.

That would be assuming no other job gets amnesia spells up to 99. As soon as someone can do it, a pact inflicting it is worthless. See Poison, Blind, Bind, Paralyze, Slow, Gravity, Stun and whatever we already have.

that sounds Awesome summons but yeah if you have too 2hr too get avatar like odin meh i woulndt really spend the time too get the avatar too begin with if its just for looks for only 2hr i hope not soo i can have my own! cool avatar walking with my tarutaru in vandiel

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Originally Posted by Malamasala

That would be assuming no other job gets amnesia spells up to 99. As soon as someone can do it, a pact inflicting it is worthless. See Poison, Blind, Bind, Paralyze, Slow, Gravity, Stun and whatever we already have.

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Unless, of course, the amnesia inflicted by Cait Sith is more potent/accurate/longer lasting than any spell or ability the other jobs give.

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Originally Posted by Korpg

Unless, of course, the amnesia inflicted by Cait Sith is more potent/accurate/longer lasting than any spell or ability the other jobs give.

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I think that it would be best if such a thing was unique to SMN. I think every job should have something unique.

summoners need SILENCEGA!! stick that on one of the new avatars!

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Originally Posted by Clou777

summoners need SILENCEGA!! stick that on one of the new avatars!

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For what?white text

so you dont get hit by magic? and if you never solo you're not a real smn... so amnesia pact would still be nice when needed. looking forward to unlocking cait sith ^^

and idk why people dislike 2hour avatars. its better then nothing and they have their uses (alex for AV and odin for burns)

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Originally Posted by Korpg

Unless, of course, the amnesia inflicted by Cait Sith is more potent/accurate/longer lasting than any spell or ability the other jobs give.

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I do indeed hope your right, because this is the only thing I see weighting down the scale.

"If" we even get the Blood Pact:confused:

And "If" its not strong enough the cat just sounds like the new solo avatar:( Which I hope she will have better uses...I just got a bad feeling about this.

I fully welcome the power of Atomos.

I only want Siren with Silencega. That is how the FF series rolls.

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Originally Posted by Defiledsickness

so you dont get hit by magic? and if you never solo you're not a real smn... so amnesia pact would still be nice when needed. looking forward to unlocking cait sith ^^

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You are funny, you know that, right? Here is another way to not get hit by magic while soloing: Don't stand next to the avatar. Saved you a wasted BP.

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and idk why people dislike 2hour avatars. its better then nothing and they have their uses (alex for AV and odin for burns)

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You hit the nail on the head there bucko. They have uses, but very limited uses at that.

Odds are she will cost the same as Diabolos, which isn't that much. Fenrir and Carbuncle are the exceptions to the rule. As long as Caitsith follows the same pattern as the other avatars she will be a welcome addition to the fold. I've been looking forward to a strong light avatar for years.

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Originally Posted by Malamasala

I only want Siren with Silencega. That is how the FF series rolls.

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These are a few of the ideas I had on a Siren summon...

Siren draws people to their dooms. Siren conceals its hideous true form with the appearance of a young, barely clothed entity who sings a beautiful song. This cloak of deception draws upon each hearer's own desires, so its appearance is actually different to each race and gender. The true form of Siren is like an orobon with massive jaws, but very low mobility.
(Terrestrial Avatar version of an Orobon)

Basic abilities (but not all):

2 Hour Rage: Siren Song
Draws enemies in, they stop attacking while "Charmed", and it deals a strong damage over time effect, ending with Siren's "Jaws of the Maelstrom" attack.

Siren's Revelation
When foes see the true source of the siren's song, it causes them to attack each other and themselves. (Confusion)

Hypnotic Lure
Puts enemies to sleep, high enmity.

Cloak of Deception
Share in the deceptive power of the Siren to sneak past enemies.
Grants Sneak/Invisible/Deodorize to the party.

Kiss of Death
Chance to inflict countdown-doom or a strong poison.

Able to cast Silence and Silencega... and Mute.

100% innate triple attack.

Siren could be encountered while on a boat while heading to another continent.
While I'd like this to be a summon, I could see it simply being an NM somewhere, like Dark Ixion, but... really... summon!

We're already getting two new avatars. Don't get greedy.

Please SE: Implement the three AI fixes. It would go miles to fixing this job. Make some form of Stay command, get rid of the distance limit on being able to use the assault command, and fix the 'If the mob dies mid BP, the timer doesn't reset' problem.

Yeah, the 3 things you think is wrong with SMN now, which only 1 is a true problem.

Mewing Lullaby Vs Eerie Eye

Any thoughts on this vs HNMs?

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We're already getting two new avatars. Don't get greedy.

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Not really greedy when Siren is the only additional avatar you ever really wanted. It is just SE that forgot to add it to the story and game all this time, and probably because they wanted to use less common avatars (like garuda).

i want Doom train.

Who could not want Doom Train?

Haha oh man, Doomtrain was probably one of my favorite summons from FFVIII because it was just so silly. I fully support implementing Doomtrain, even more so if he (..it?) is a "walking around" avatar. I don't even know how that would work, but just imagine a train guarding you as you fish.

More than likely caithsith will be a mix and match of current avatar/2 hr avatar. Meaning she'll normally do her regular avatar behaviors and her 2nd will be Atomos summons for massive AoE debuff. I think massive debuffs would be effective since I see a,ot of post about NM's resisting many spells, even when capped with gear.

Imagine Atomos debuff dropping resistance so low that the "normal" DoT and status spell become 100% against NM?