Ruby lights on high tier WS

Jesus Christ, all this because he said any competent player with a pulse can infini-time solo even with all lights capped?

Protip: They can. It is nowhere near the realm of "POIDH", or "Getting 90 and an Emp in a day". Staying in Abyssea is stupid amounts of easy and any half-decent player, on any job, can make positive time if they need to.

Will shitty, inefficient jobs be stuck farming time more often than fighting NMs? Possibly.

Can they still hit a positive net gain in time? Absolutely.

Wow... Never said I never got time boxes farming solo... Learn to read Rog. I only stated that they were far and few between, was just bad luck, but I never timed out.

Also, this thread has gone so far off topic it's ridiculous. (then again, what thread hasn't been thrown out to oblivion when certain people jump in to share their "opinions?")

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Originally Posted by Harukusan

Wow... Never said I never got time boxes farming solo... Learn to read Rog. I only stated that they were far and few between, was just bad luck, but I never timed out.

Also, this thread has gone so far off topic it's ridiculous. (then again, what thread hasn't been thrown out to oblivion when certain people jump in to share their "opinions?")

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I never said you did. I said you almost timed out, which came directly from your post.

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TE boxes seemed to be something of a myth that only occasionally appeared when I was nearly timing out.

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No luck is required for TEs, unless you suck.

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I have a very simple idea that could be a solution regarding lights. Perhaps adding an NPC in Abyssea that you could talk to to clear certain lights of your choosing? Maybe in exchange for cruor or whatever. Once all lights are capped, there is no need for red pyxides, they merely get in the way as was mentioned in the OP and in my first post. Reducing or completely clearing ruby lights would be extremely beneficial in the end.

And why haven't you been banned for calling me a douche, and making personal attacks?

@Harukusan

What would be the point of the light system if you can choose to erase certain lights? The idea of the entire affair is to choose your kills carefully.

Your suggestion is pretty much "I want the easiest solution possible and want no significant drawbacks". Even with capped ruby you'll be seeing enough blue to keep yourself in Abyssea indefinitely and if you need Gold boxes then you should choose to avoid Ruby and cap Azure/Amber.

I mean restraint is such a difficult concept.

I would almost welcome that. These forums are completely bogus. It's hard to find a topic with some relevance or common sense. And for the record, my opinion stands. You just go back under your bridge and wait for the next unsuspecting victim. It's clear all I'm doing is nourishing your appetite to piss people off.

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Originally Posted by Sparthos

@Harukusan

What would be the point of the light system if you can choose to erase certain lights? The idea of the entire affair is to choose your kills carefully.

Your suggestion is pretty much "I want the easiest solution possible and want no significant drawbacks". Even with capped ruby you'll be seeing enough blue to keep yourself in Abyssea indefinitely and if you need Gold boxes then you should choose to avoid Ruby and cap Azure/Amber.

I mean restraint is such a difficult concept.

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Ugh... I give up...

Look, all I'm doing is putting out ideas that are relevant to the OP. Not telling them what is obvious and actually true at this moment. Restraint is not hard to grasp, I already mentioned that in an earlier post it is the only way to avoid building lights you don't want when it actually matters. In most cases, it really doesn't matter at all. I'm not hurting for stones, are you?

The point I was getting at with the topic was that the stronger you make your char the more you have to restrain yourself and indeed if you have some of the emps you can't WS at all without making things more difficult for yourself in the long run. I know you can push it up a notch and kill faster to still get TE and push through the crap boxes but the point is, sometimes you want to take it easy and not kill as fast as you can. Getting high ruby just makes things more annoying needlessly. Ruby should be a choice not a hinderance, no other main attack lights have such a negative impact.

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What would be the point of the light system if you can choose to erase certain lights? The idea of the entire affair is to choose your kills carefully.

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They were added to be able to select the types of boxes you get, not as a difficulty factor or a punishment.

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Originally Posted by Runespider

The point I was getting at with the topic was that the stronger you make your char the more you have to restrain yourself and indeed if you have some of the emps you can't WS at all without making things more difficult for yourself in the long run. I know you can push it up a notch and kill faster to still get TE and push through the crap boxes but the point is, sometimes you want to take it easy and not kill as fast as you can. Getting high ruby just makes things more annoying needlessly. Ruby should be a choice not a hinderance, no other main attack lights have such a negative impact.



They were added to be able to select the types of boxes you get, not as a difficulty factor or a punishment.

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If you have emps then you can kill fast enough to overcome any ruby you build by killing mobs with a weaponskill. Like I said, even with Ruby at cap, so long as you have the proper pearl/azure making enough time to stay inside Abyssea is trivial. It becomes even more trivial if you AOE burn mobs.

If you want to take it easy and not kill asap then simply blast through what you want to get done and exit or pearl/azure/amber mobs and avoid ruby in the first place.

The light system was added to be "difficult" and I use that term loosely. It's a way to diversify the kills you make in order to include jobs that were shunned pre-Abyssea. Ruby isn't a "punishment" and if you feel it is, simply chip down mobs from 5% or use magic to kill enemies.

There is no reason why a group can't stay inside Abyssea if they simply pace kills properly, have lights at the correct intensities and pick the path (ruby or no ruby) that best suits the goal they have in mind. Needless to say, the ability to wipe lights is wholly unnecessary and only would further trivialize a system already on handicaps for players in Heroes.