sadly GM's appear to have dropped the ball

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i think the unclaim system in abyssea on certain mobs is broken to a extent. Having mobs go white doing a fight is rather annoying if the sole person with hate dies and there will always be the vultures that want to get an easy kill from that. But on a positive side didn't they make it if someone steals your NM you still get KI's even if their party kills it? Atleast that makes things a bit better, but personally i think which ever group pop's the NM should have sole rights to all drops so if it gets stolen and there is still some hate on the field somewhere that all drops go to the party that pop'd it instead of a group who's main purpose in this game is to be jerks.

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They can't vulture if you are competent. As for the steal pt getting the KI, if the mob still has hate on the first pt they will get the KI, if it goes idle they will get it.

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Originally Posted by Khajit

While camping you for stealing the mob post charmga is a dick move i have to ask this...
SIX HOURS? WTF?

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Yes I cant understand that either 6 hours for a pop set

SE has always held that if the name is yellow, it's a free mob. You lose on point 1. If, however, you lost claim while having hate (and you probably didn't, the hated most likely wanderred out of range or had lost hate), well, that's not a ToS thing, but it would be a technical bug. GMs won't do anything about it, but you should report it to tech support.

See, what you are calling Harassment is actually simply bad manners. Let's face it, if a jackass coughs up his monthly fee he can play. You mentioned tho' that they were harassing yours and others parties before "stealing" the mob, if there's profanity and the like, flaming started by them THAT could be reported. But if all they really did is steal your mob? Nada. Best response to that? Be ready to steal it back.

But if they brought back hate based claim on mobs there would finally be a use for paladin in abyssea...

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While taking NM's from a party/alliance does not make you break the TOS it does however make you a huge douche. Only possible exemption from douche status would be if that party is continually dying, and rr'ing ala Apoc, or if that group has previously done something douchey to your crew.

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Originally Posted by Masekase

Yes I cant understand that either 6 hours for a pop set

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After re-reading the OP, it sounds they (maybe?) spent time farming multiple popsets and lost one of their CCs after Charmga.

The group that nabbed mutiple CCs do indeed sound like jerks, but hey, white CCs are fair game. All mages should be prepared to keep claim on NMs with Charm, and besides, all mages should have some variety of quick-casting spell macro'd anyways.

On BLM, I prefer to cast Sleepga on CC when I see it appear in the chatlog (assuming I was casting something else and couldn't Stun fast enough, or more likely, I missed it because I'm a craptacular stunner). It simultaneously keeps claim on the NM and sleeps the melees. If the melees are DoT'd, it's simple enough to kite everyone until charm wears off while mocking them the whole time for being unable to break my Stoneskin. :D

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Originally Posted by Eeek

If the melees are DoT'd, it's simple enough to kite everyone until charm wears off while mocking them the whole time for being unable to break my Stoneskin. :D

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Our Kannagi nin killed me so fast with aftermath up, didn't even get Mana Wall off! lol ; ;

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Originally Posted by Tamoa

Our Kannagi nin killed me so fast with aftermath up, didn't even get Mana Wall off! lol ; ;

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Hah! I had something like that happen to me once, but only because our MNK decided to Hundred Fist the Attohwa Corse NM (waaaay too early to try to spell that name!) for fun and got charmed right away. Stoneskin, Phalanx, and Mana Wall were all down! lol :(

I'm usually good about keeping up Stoneskin and Phalanx, though, and my mages' idle sets have -42% PDT (-47% at night) along with the usual movement speed and refresh. I can take a real beating before dying. When I pull hate on BLM, I run up the the melee(s) and just stand there and let the NM hit me a few times and /doze before dousing my hate. I like to tease them. :)

lol if you screwed up that nm you deserve to have it taken

ya sorry to say, once that NM goes yellow its free for all, now its an unspoken rule that we do not claim till that whole party has died.