Weather Reporter-Tu'lia

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

the flag is really just there to indicate which faction the people fighting there belong to.

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Who plants it?

I appreciate that it's important to the storyline that only a handful of people on Vana'diel know about Tu'Lia's existence, but my suspension of disbelief ends at seeing the flag (if not seeing it on the conquest map to begin with; even brand new players know there's "something" "near" Qufim).

Oh, and let's not forget a certain character who dies in the Stellar Fulcrum who has a hard time staying dead, especially if you change allegiance.

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Originally Posted by Ziyyigo-Tipyigo

Oh, and let's not forget a certain character who dies in the Stellar Fulcrum who has a hard time staying dead, especially if you change allegiance.

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SPOILER ALERT

Also, to what I'm about to say

SPOILER ALERT

No one in this game seriously stays dead. Except that little Elvaan in the San d'Oria (S) story. And I guess Excenmille's father. And probably a bunch of other people in the war.

But I digress.

Lion is pretty much alive at the end of Apocalypse Nigh. Possibly comatose. You know, since they kinda never patched that part of the story through. Sure, she's the cause of Dreamworld Dynamis, but that continues to support comatose. I'd like to know how her story ended.

Don't forget, Kam'lanaut and Eald'narche don't stay dead after the events of Zilart either when you switch allegiances. Though they do supposedly die for reals after AN. Unless you switch allegiances.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

It's not represented to the same degree. No guards are dispatched to the area (likely because they don't have sky access :p ) and the flag is really just there to indicate which faction the people fighting there belong to.

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I refer to Al'taieu, once again. By the same degree, why can't the adventurers also plant a flag there?

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I wish I ss'd it to prove the npc part, but I was showing another poster on bg who thought qufim shared lights with sky that that was a myth.

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It's not so much that they share the same forecast, but they share the same cycle. It mimics RL in that light weather peaks around the solstaces, so you more or less have around 1 game week in each 90 game day rotation where it will pop close together, sometimes on back to back days....but more often it is every other day. When they see it is up for qufim, they run to their portals and hit the magian books to get the forecasts for sky.

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Originally Posted by RAIST

It's not so much that they share the same forecast, but they share the same cycle. It mimics RL in that light weather peaks around the solstaces, so you more or less have around 1 game week in each 90 game day rotation where it will pop close together, sometimes on back to back days....but more often it is every other day. When they see it is up for qufim, they run to their portals and hit the magian books to get the forecasts for sky.

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No, prove it or just stop. You've posted a lot of stuff with zero proof to anything you've said.


Take your sig for advice and either start posting tests or stop trying to spread myths for the lulz.

it's not a myth....I've been there and seen it. Fire weather is bound to the summer season for it's peak, thus areas that are likely to get it get more of it during the summer months. In the same way, Auroras are bound to the solstices. You can almost guarantee to find light around the equinoxes (I would find it in Qufim during March's cycle almost like clockwork for light clusters when I was leveling crafts with them). The other two seasonal changes are slimmer, but still somewhat reliable.

I'm talking about your whole qufim to sky deal, I've already stated weather is seasonal via my links but all your other talk about weather moving zones n' running from qufim to tu'lia stuff is just myth.

I'm more than willing to admit you're right if you actually posted some data on it, but otherwise no.

It's not that the weather moves from qufim to Tu'lia (even though, it likely eventually does in one direction or the other)--it's that light pops around the solstices in each zone. So, if it is popping in one zone, it is likely to be popping in the other around the same time frame. Compare it to the fire example I also gave. Fire is up during summer....so it is more likely to show up in terrigan and ifrit's. Doesn't mean it will pop in both zones exactly on the same day, but maybe within a couple days of each other. They get them in the same seasonal cycle, so if it is popping in one zone because it is in season, you can expect to see it showing up somewhere in the other's forecasts as well because it is the summer season. It's just that light doesn't follow a season in the normal sense---it's "season" is actually when the seasons are changing.

you are jumping around and I don't even think you know what you're trying to prove. I've said several times that weather is seasonal, so I don't know why you're trying to explain it to me....lol I've said it several times and posted links about when the seasons/frequency happens.

However none of what you said relates to your changing zones deal about "dominate" weather effecting other areas.

Or means you should sit in qufim then run to tu'lia, that's just a complete waste of time. If it's the season, it's the season, you don't need to go to one zone just so you can guess when to go to another.

Romanova, you are confusing two different conversations , from two different groups of posts.

The light discussion is about the "myth that qufim and sky are tied" statement in an earlier post. They aren't tied, but they follow the same weather pattern. If they catch the weather is up in qufim, then it is likely the timeframe for sky as well, so they run out there to check the forecast. Sometimes they line up, (light in qufim, light on same day), and sometimes it pops on different days--but they share the same time frames (popping around the solstices). Some misinterpret that as qufim and sky being linked 1:1, when in fact the link is the time of year and not the zones themselves. It just happens that i've found Light to have a very specific, narrow triggger of a short period around the solstices and not an entire season. thus everyone thinks it is ridiculously rare, even though it is fairly consistent to it's PATTERN.

As for the neighboring zones thing--there is a somewhat common pattern. When the dominant (ie, most common) weather is up in one zone, often times the same may go for the connecting zone (the more common weather may be up also)--even though they may be different elements. This can also sometimes apply across different regions if they are connected. Saw it again today...heavy weather was up in pashhow, rolanberry, and Vunkerl in the past on the same game day--but it was different elements (water and thunder) because Vunkerl has a different weather in that slot. I have also seen the pattern countless times of earth being up in altep and wind in teriggan and kuftal (two different regions, two different elements, but they were following each other very closely on the timing as they are the dominant weather in those regions).

The point is you don't HAVE to have check a weather NPC for all these zones if you see the patterns the desired zone follows. Other zones that follow the same seasonal triggers can clue you in that it may be a good time to go to that far out zone and check it locally. If you're running through altep or QSC and see fire is up...check it out, it's summer--that means you may be able to go do manticore in terrigan for fire, or bombs/opos/arcana in fire. Or, maybe its earth--might be a good time to check out kuftal for wind to snag some vermin/aquan kills or something. It's about spotting the patterns.

Edit:Here's a fresh example... checked with weather NPC in Bastok for altep...sunny in altep, OP to teriggan, sunny with clouds. Wind popped up...OP warped around to e. altep and zoned to W. altep... earth was up. It was brief, but it happened. weather crossed over to next game day and left... forecast for that next day was sunny with chance of dust storms. So it isn't in season, so it may have been a fluke. But when the season is up, I see them line up like that a lot.