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Originally Posted by Olor

Cause time sinks = awesome amirite?

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You're measuring time, and you're trying to speed things up... Why?

Tell me this... What's the difference between obtaining something in a week, and obtaining it in a month?

You still obtain the item. Am I wrong, or what?

EDIT: Let's continue this shall we?

*Random Person*: Ugh... It takes a week to get that piece of gear -_-.... It should only take a few days!

*Another Random Person*: Ugh... It takes a few days to get that piece of gear -_-.... It should only take a few hours!

*Yet Another Random Person*: Ugh... It takes a few hours to get that piece of gear -_-.... It should only take a few minutes!


Can you understand yet?

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Originally Posted by Korpg

You are the only one complaining. Maybe everyone else excepted the game for what it is instead of trying to nit-pick every single thing that is "wrong" with this game.

Because, I'm going to complain "12 bucks a month is too expensive, I want to play this game for 12 cents a month, with my own personal limo driving me everywhere I want to go, because driving is too hard too."

Because that is what I'm getting from you.

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Actually 6 people agreed with me. I am sure others feel the same way. What do you find fun about watching someone else out pull you and get all their KI for their NM pops while your time withers away?

I have no problem paying the sub fee.(I have 2 accounts)

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Originally Posted by Akujima

Hahaha, funny stuff. Before all we heard was complaints about 3, 21 and 72~ hour NMs. But I knew this was coming. Complaints over 15 minute repops.

Next thing you know there will be complaints over why it takes so long to get everywhere, and there should be "Teleport-This Zone", add more warps!... Ahhh, $#%@ WHY EVEN HAVE ZONES AT ALL!? And chocobo's should be replaced with sports cars.

Get out of playing RPG's and get back to playing what you really want: A Mr Dress-Up Online SIMS Game.

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Theres teleports to everywhere you go in XIV. It would be nice if XI had the same thing only because the movement in the game is to slow for me.

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Originally Posted by svengalis

Theres teleports to everywhere you go in XIV. It would be nice if XI had the same thing only because the movement in the game is to slow for me.

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Movement is too slow? Let's see..
Sprinter's Shoes, Fleet Wind, Blitzer's Roll, ASA Legs, Chocobo Whistle, Abyssea Teleports, White Mage teleports, Tele-Rings, Warp/Retrace scroll, Outpost warps, Aht Urghan Warp Taru, Valkurm/Mhaura boat, Airships, Lycopodium NPCs, Flee, Powder Boots, warp between cities with certain Mog-Tablet perks.
And yet you complain it's too hard to get anywhere? That's just what I thought of off the top of my head.
At most, it takes.. 10 minutes to get anywhere in the game. That argument may have had some merit a year ago, but with Abyssea and everything SE have introduced recently, it holds no ground. You really want the game to be "Push a button, get item", don't you.

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Originally Posted by svengalis

Actually 6 people agreed with me. I am sure others feel the same way. What do you find fun about watching someone else out pull you and get all their KI for their NM pops while your time withers away?

I have no problem paying the sub fee.(I have 2 accounts)

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Bolded statement #1, a two part response. Part 1: What is keeping you from fighting a different mob? Most mobs in the game have multiple pop requirements. If somebody is fighting the Pestite, go fight the Bugard and/or the Lizard. Nothing is keeping you from doing that. I'm sure somebody needs the seals in your party..... Part 2: [Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XI FORUM Guidelines.] If somebody is claiming faster than you, then you need to be better for next time. Before you complain bots, people always outclaim bots. Even I have outclaimed bots, and my internet SUCKS.

[Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XI FORUM Guidelines.]

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Originally Posted by svengalis

Theres teleports to everywhere you go in XIV. It would be nice if XI had the same thing only because the movement in the game is to slow for me.

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Obviously RPG's aren't the game for you then. Because a big part of RPG's, is exploration and travelling.

Making teleports and easy warps, in turn affected the quality of EXP PT's. How? Since it's so easy to get to the group/PT, nobody really cares how long the PT lasted for, and that's when "reps" started becoming popular. Back in the day, it took a LONG time to get to the PT, so the leader had to make sure whoever was coming, got worthwhile EXP.

Sure you can argue that it's faster to get to a camp spot now and start EXP'ing quicker. But when it took a longer time to do so, it forced people to really think about where they were going to camp and what their PT setup was. Getting to camp faster only increased the sloppy throw together PT's that barely got EXP and made certain areas way too over-camped, effectively wasting your time anyways but just in a different way.

So in reality making things TOO fast, diminishes quality. It's relativity.

I really do think there's an issue when you have some assclown in Misareux in there from dusk until dawn just outclaiming almost any LS who comes out there. And as far as "Go fight another mob" goes, sometimes your whole alliance has both the other KIs. The competition for the single peiste is just astounding.

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Tell me this... What's the difference between obtaining something in a week, and obtaining it in a month?

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It's a mix of fair access and the item's actual worth relative to the mob's difficulty. You can try to grossly exaggerate and pretend people are asking for full everything in their dbox the moment they log on, but there's no fun in rarely, if ever, getting a claim on a contested mob just as killing it a billion times is no more fun after the first few. As is, Abyssea suddenly tilted endgame progression that was otherwise split over 7+ years into suddenly thousands of people on a single server needing the same things. That leads to a lot of congestion, and by proxy, competition on mobs where forced spawns aren't involved. Even in the case of those, you'll get people who camp the ??? and go "out of turn" if they weren't the first ones there just because "you can fight another mob" or some other lame rationale. Some items simply don't have alternate sources, like the job-specific accessories, the R/E weapons, empyrean items, and so on.

Basically, people want to fight the mobs, not crappy drop rates or their fellow players. Pretending it's some cardinal sin that a guy you'll never probably play with is equally, if not greater equipped because they didn't go through the same hurdles as you is, put simply, dumb. You don't lose said items. They don't lose their stats.

I should mention, I enjoy a good challenge. I loved it ever since I hit mission 2-3 and wound up with a challenge I couldn't just beat with levels alone. I like going after BCNMs, especially the ones where people haven't beaten the strategy into the ground already. I enjoy fighting NMs.

But I don't like claiming NMs. I don't like having to peel my eyes for what may be several hours on a spawn window. I don't like having whether I can do content or not boil down essentially to luck (Does it pop within range, and not right behind me in my camera's blind spot?). With the old style of content, those of us who didn't like that could pursue things in Dynamis, or Einherjar, or Nyzul, or all sorts of other endgame events that didn't depend on being luckier than the 3 other shells out there just to participate. Now, however, abyssea has made just about everything else obsolete. It's where you get all the higher level gear now. We're required to camp NMs to do anything anymore, and not all of us enjoy that.

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Originally Posted by Korpg

Bolded statement #1, a two part response. Part 1: What is keeping you from fighting a different mob? Most mobs in the game have multiple pop requirements. If somebody is fighting the Pestite, go fight the Bugard and/or the Lizard. Nothing is keeping you from doing that. I'm sure somebody needs the seals in your party..... Part 2: Suck less. If somebody is claiming faster than you, then you need to be better for next time. Before you complain bots, people always outclaim bots. Even I have outclaimed bots, and my internet SUCKS.

Bolded statement #2: Obviously sarcasm escapes you. But I'm sure that (if) you get your way, you will be complaining about something else! You seem to be the type of person who is never satisfied with your life, so you have to constantly complain about something! "Mom, make this NM pop" "Mom, its too hot in here" "Mom, I need to go to the bathroom again." This game is easy as it is, don't complain about something that requires a little effort to do!

Edit: Having 6 accounts "Like" your ideas is not the same as having somebody else agree with you.

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If you don't have anything positive to say then don't post in my threads.