How Treasure Hunter works - SE clarification request

nothing seem to reset TH proc,
(random fail worth) : ZR run proc some TH(7), got full charmed, dia off deagro and madame regened 1 tic, 1st TH proc was 8 (then we forced few full charm/regen to proc higher TH)

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Originally Posted by hiko

nothing seem to reset TH proc,
(random fail worth) : ZR run proc some TH(7), got full charmed, dia off deagro and madame regened 1 tic, 1st TH proc was 8 (then we forced few full charm/regen to proc higher TH)

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Neat. I've never personally seen something like what you describe.

I don't remember where or when, but I think I recall someone running a few tests on Gilfinder and learning that the Gilfinder effect does not wear off once applied, even if the mob in question completely deaggros. It wouldn't surprise me to learn that TH works the same way.

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Originally Posted by Eeek

I've experienced no such bug.

For example, I got myself killed the last time I fought Briareus. Since only suckers use Atma of Dread, my base TH was 6, and before I died, I upgraded it to 7.

After I died, I got up and immediately engaged it again because I'm not a sissy. I upgraded TH again - to 8. I was the only THF, and the TH 'debuff' most certainly stayed on the mob after my glorious death.

SE is correct in stating that the TH 'debuff' stays on the mob if the THF dies. It stands to reason that the TH 'debuff' stays on said mob until it goes idle (for whatever reason).

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I've told people this crap time and time and time again and yet they still think that if I either died, zoned or changed jobs the TH effect leaves.

Only times I've actually noticed TH have any effects:
- Back when I used to farm Battering Rams I noticed that before I levelled THF I'd average 1-3 drops per kill. When I went back again after having levelled THF I noticed I was averaging around 3-6 drops per kill.
- During Dynamis, when the THF d/c'ed the rate of coins dropped seemingly went from about 70% down to about 15%.

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Originally Posted by Alukat

well it could probably be this way:
u get one roll and th effects the range of numbers for an item
example mob is davoi wasp:

beehive chip 0-200, 400-600
honey 275-425, 500-600
insect wing 550-650
giant stinger 600-750

now lets say that u have th4
this might turn it to:
beehive chip 0-250,400-650
honey 275-475,500-650
insect wing 550-700
giant stinger 600-750

the numbers aren't true for sure. but this could be a way it does work.
it allows no drop to multiple drops.

anyone else experienced that if u proc th7 at begin of the fight and remove 1 th equipment piece that 7 will proc again?

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This thread isn't about the method by which TH affects drop rates, which is something we can only speculate on and as long as treasure hunter helps you find treasure in some way, the end result of the behind the scenes calculation is the same. What this thread is really about is whether or not the effect given by TH remains when the THF is KO'd or if the base effect remains but not the boosted effect, or what have you.

That said, I find it extremely doubtful that the game uses internal /random commands to decide if you get drops or not. It's far more likely to be percent based, rather than the same 0-999 random scale we use for lots.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

That said, I find it extremely doubtful that the game uses internal /random commands to decide if you get drops or not. It's far more likely to be percent based, rather than the same 0-999 random scale we use for lots.

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Those systems give equivalent results. 0-300 for drop, 301-999 for no drop would equal a 30% drop chance. In fact, this is how most systems calculate chance-based rolls. They calculate a random integer, and if the integer is between 0 and c*x, where c is the maximal integer value (65536 in most cases) and x the percentage, then the result is considered a success.