Thoughts on Runefencer

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Originally Posted by Demon6324236

Well we were talking about with a piece of Emp gear that RUN would get that extra Rune, so it makes sense that naturally is not a factor.

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OK, fine... I was unaware of the super harp that gives a 4th song. I only remember hearing that it gave an addition song as it was. But even still, a 3rd and 4th song can be done with an additional BRD as well or having an enemy BRD cast a few more on you.

To me a 4th rune is a natural progression: Enspell damage seems to add less damage per rune, so that wouldn't increase significantly, whereas it would add a very nice boost to lunge, assuming it followed the same formula -

440 x 1.5 x 4 = 2640 before MAB or MB. Now we're talking.

I think 58 is the most MAB we've found without gimping yourself with weapon or grip, giving 4171 without magic Bursting.

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Originally Posted by Babekeke

To me a 4th rune is a natural progression: Enspell damage seems to add less damage per rune, so that wouldn't increase significantly, whereas it would add a very nice boost to lunge, assuming it followed the same formula -

440 x 1.5 x 4 = 2640 before MAB or MB. Now we're talking.

I think 58 is the most MAB we've found without gimping yourself with weapon or grip, giving 4171 without magic Bursting.

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But my questions is how much do the runes effect the JAs? Can you absorb 3 different elements with Liement as it is, because adding a 4th; opens things up for a whole lot of mitigation, no?

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Originally Posted by Zeargi

But my questions is how much do the runes effect the JAs? Can you absorb 3 different elements with Liement as it is, because adding a 4th; opens things up for a whole lot of mitigation, no?

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no, you absorb the damage of only the spell with the most runes of that element, or the most recently done rune if all runes are different. 4 Runes will simply mean you can absorb 145% of the damage that the spell will have done. And for Vallation and Valiance, you can reach 60% MDT that is multiplicative with gear/shell MDT for a cap of 80%, same as Aegis PLD.

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Originally Posted by Babekeke

To me a 4th rune is a natural progression: Enspell damage seems to add less damage per rune, so that wouldn't increase significantly, whereas it would add a very nice boost to lunge, assuming it followed the same formula -

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Don't call it Enspell... it reminds me of the rage I felt when RDM/RUN Enspell II gets overwritten by rune additional damage.. despite being a stronger and higher level effect that only affects the 1st hit..