To Devs: Salvage / Mythic Suggestion

I would say the one in a handful of people thing is more for VW weapons than for Relic/Mythic/Emp but thats mostly luck anyways. In either case while I understand your point, its not as simple as saying to ignore all of the bad ones. I for instance want the RDM Mythic because its a god for Enfeebling and Convert, is it worth a Mythic's level of work? No way in hell, its barly better than the ToM staves. This does not mean the weapon should be unobtainable because Ryuno is godly and worth it, or Kenkonken is either, it should be good, and worth the effort needed, but the level thats needed is only worth it for some. Its much the same as how if you look at Emps, Vere are amazing, but weapons like the Polearm and Redemption are worthless by compare, even though they are on all of the same NMs. Its really poor balancing in my opinion, and they should at least fix that aspect, if not make Mythics easier as a whole.

They wont make mythics easier to obtain due to the sheer power of the few that are good, but they wont make the ones that are bad easier because that would take too much work so I reckon they'll just keep it the same. And the vw weapons aren't better than relic/mythic and are a whole lot easier to obtain, just takes time. DMG is still less and they don't have aftermath or hidden effects or even extra ws's, just have some nice standard effects and are shiny lol. It's pretty easy really, if you want rdm weapon that bad, work for it, if you don't want to work for it, it's not worth it. Best you can do is ask SE to lessen the effects slightly of the mythic and add it as an effect on a drop from legion etc. There's no reason to change mythics because the minority think it's unfair for them to take so long to get when that was the idea in the first place. Also I doubt they'll make mythics like the rdm sword any better because they've been around for years now and nobodies complained, they just simply don't go for them.

All the mythic suck, there is no risk of imbalance.

Ryuno and KKK do not suck...

KKK is comparable to verethragna, and yes ryunohige is a god tier weapon for DRG, but not a god tier weapon across jobs. It is average. It just means Relic polarm (and DRG jobs generally) sucks. Only Koga is god tier.

Most DD mythics do comparable damage during AM3 (withing a margin of 10~20% of each other I believe) except GK, which is god tier. And this is why they suck: in order to maintain am3 you have to lower your damage output.

Well the point of comparing a weapon is to compare it to other things the same job can use, not against all other items. This is why KKK & Ryuno are awesome, they stand way above other options for the jobs that can use them, that is why they are actually good and worth it, the others are not really because they are just another weapon, most of which are either only good for a single effect on them such as Yagrush, or because they are slightly better than the Emp/Relic for the job, which does not make sense when you look at the big picture of their actual cost vs the very little gain. KKK & Ryuno are basically the only really good weapons for their jobs, or are at least the be all end all of them, which is the only reason they are worth the effort.

I don't understand why people class drg as a terrible job without ryunohige tbh, even with relic it's a great job and can out parse a lot of jobs. It's one of those cases where "no emp/relic, no invite" but in this case it's with mythic, which is the reason why this games beginning to lose it's fun. There shouldn't be the need to be amazing only good and know what you're doing. Drg with relic 95 can do as much if not more than most dd's due to the amount of ws's you can put out, the jump damage, conserve tp, wyvern damage and just standard attacks being high. Yea it doesn't do as high damage with ws's as say war with Ukon but then i've seen ukon war's completely fail because they don't know how to play their job. All I see is this game turning more into WoW everyday because it's all based on getting the best gear to zerg things and losing the strategy part. I say good on SE to nerf SMN and SCH because of this very reason. At least they're aiming to keep it away from most MMO's and stay strategy based. Point is, they make these weapons easy to obtain, so everyone gets them regardless of knowing how to play the job, which leads to them getting invites to zergs because there is no strategy involved in a zerg - which in turn takes the fun and achievement away from defeating bosses, especially for the people who know how to play their job well, get called a loser pretty much for not having a relic and not getting invited to anything. *rant over*

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Originally Posted by Demon6324236

Ryuno and KKK do not suck...

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They suck, I mathed them on BG. The DPS they can do during AM3 is = to ukkon's war. The problem is that you have to waste a lot of damage to build 300 tp.

Yeah, because Ukon WAR sucks.

You are slow. If they equal an ukkon war during their AM3, they do MUCH less damage if you consider that they require to waste 3 ws to reach this point.