Relic and Empyrean jobs that can use them.

Whats a tank?

They did say they wanted RNF to deal more damage than Prd, I hope they don't mean 2h bonus...

They did mention they intended it to be a "magic tank" (insert jackie chan pic here) or rather that is their vision for RNF, idk how any job can beat out an aegis PLD in that respect however...

As we all may be aware the dev team vision of things vs reality don't always collide the way either of us hope.

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Originally Posted by Nala

idk how any job can beat out an aegis PLD in that respect however...

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1 word, Reflect, the only possible way I see it happening...

honestly i just hope they have DD potential, the concept of tanking in any event that matters is dead due to emity issues and OMGWTFBBQ AoE (albeit toned down VW a bit) make having a designated damage sponge (or avoider) impractical and has been a long time since it was a viable strategy hence why most events are zerg fests.

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Originally Posted by Demon6324236

1 word, Reflect, the only possible way I see it happening...

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Or maybe an Innate ability to absorb party damage? Sort of a passive tank in that they don't hold hate, but the still take the magic damage? I dunno...

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Originally Posted by Trisscar

Most people would disagree with you. I'm one of them. I'm also a career Blue Mage and I can honestly say that we aren't missing anything by not being able to use Excalibur.

Doesn't matter anyhow, there's likely to be new relic or empyrean weapon level weapons in the new expansion.

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Originally Posted by Trisscar

No, I didn't even imply that. I just think the jobs not already covered by relics don't need them.

Having said that, it would make sense to add Dancer and/or Scholar to existing relics as they were jobs known and in use during the time the relics were made in the storyline. Blue Mage, Puppetmaster, and Corsair, not so much so. Same with Runefencer and Geomancer.

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Originally Posted by Trisscar

Yeah I know. Square has zero respect for established lore and consistency, but that's hardly an excuse to be adding Blue Mage, Puppetmaster or Corsair to the relic weapons.

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Rate Down, Rate Down, Rate Down!!!

SE can add more Empyrean Weapons, Relic Weapons and Mythic Weapons.

Hey everyone!

I made a post related to your question about relic and empyrean weapons here. :)

for the love of... what balance? you use this word so damn often so very very damn often but in the capacity it is blatantly smeared in our face covered in its deficated glory is not the proper use of the term, what part of this game is balanced atm? you are adding 2 new jobs into a hoshposh mix where their role is already covered by 2-3 others, in order for them to be viable they need to accel as is the truth with all the jobs really, how many jobs have you left in utter neglect.

How many game mechanics need addressing still to even be considered viable much less "balanced?" how many quality of life issues have you been ignoring because (insert limitations here)

I fail to see how a secondary tank job will become unbalanced when pld is on almace and on Emp gsword yet it is a....wait for it.....tank job! If anything by excluding these jobs from emp/relic and instead just opting to give them a "mythic type" weapon developers are already on the path to failure by setting up the jobs so they can't keep up. Even with these weapons pld can't keep hate because of enmity cap issues, how the hell do you expect a secondary tank to even try to hold a shred of hate with a "mythic type" weapon >.>

We've already heard that RUN is meant to be a secondary tank that won't hold comparable damage with DD because of the nature of job it is being built for. It'll use Runes to increase offensive and defensive capabilities.....but guess what? A pld with no output is about as likely to tank using its offensive/defensive abilities as a naked DD is to take hate off a geared DD. So unless this "mythic type" weapon has aftermath/ws similar in output to emp all I can say is you're all smoking crack for not just giving them access to existing weapons and creating a "mythic type" weapon.

Camate, you sir, I stab in the toe....the big one...and little one, so that which ever way you walk you remember the dissatisfaction this post has created this day.