Play as a Monster Camps

I think when you attack a lvl 5 rabbit monster, you will automatically level capped to 5 and loose all your buffs and tp. This should discourage higher lvl players randomly butchering lower lvls. But personally they have to reveal what is the end game of this, and what are the rewards. Otherwise this will be included in the long list of forgotten activities, and truly a wasted effort.

I cannot wait for this to be implemented! :D

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Originally Posted by Caketime

Our current PvP is some of the most in-depth and nuanced PvP in any online game ever. Other games you mash 3 buttons and jump around in circles like a tard until the enemy dies, in this game you have an ever-changing strategy that shifts moment to moment and forces the players to quickly counter their enemies' abilities and respond with their own to achieve victory.

The really sad thing about it is the devs won't take it anywhere, despite it being one of the best aspects of the entire game.

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Originally Posted by Elphy

If you want to give us PvP, fix what is broken (as in take out the fact that if your not a job that can zerg everything in seconds your sol) and let us fight as ourselves.

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I posted a thread about expanding or upgrading Ballista

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...llista-Upgrade

Perhaps if people like yourselves would start the fire behind my post, SE may at least consider taking it to the drawing board.. who knows?

And as much as this content sounds intriguing, what has been said here is true. We already have a system of fighting each other and SE should start growing upon that, not introduce more broken systems that people will ignore and go right back to the systems that aren't as broken, if at all.

To the Dev team:
I understand that there is a temptation to try and make this a stand-alone event and to say to yourself, "Oh, but it will be fun so people will do it even if there aren't rewards that generalize to the rest of the game!" This is absolutely the wrong approach to take. I have a shelf full of games that I don't play because FFXI exists. If those stand-alone complete games that received rave reviews from my friends can't compete with FFXI, why would an in-game minigame be able to compete with it?

Please add some rewards to the upper tiers of this event that generalize to our main characters and are desirable. Like, reaching capped level as a monster rewards you with a ring that has stats based on your monster family. Nothing overly powerful, but better than alternatives (uniqueness is a good way to make something better than alternatives).

Examples:
* Beastly Ring (8 Accuracy, 8 Attack, 1% Double Attack)
* Lizard Ring (6 Evasion, 6 Accuracy, 6 Subtle Blow)
* Vermin Ring (8 Magic Accuracy, Occasionally optimizes Magic Hit Rate)
* Plant Ring (8 Mind, Enmity -4)
* Amorphic Ring (-6% Damage taken)
* Bird Ring (3% Critical Hit Damage, 8 Agility)
* Arcane Ring (5 Magic Attack Bonus, 5 Magic Accuracy)
* Undead Ring (5 Magic Accuracy, Enhances potency of "Banish" vs. Undead)
* Wyrm Ring (10 Ranged Attack, 13 Ranged Accuracy)
* Demonic Ring (10 Dark Magic Skill, Enhances effects of Drain and Aspir)

I'm kinda disheartened that people are so down on this event because "it's not linked to the main game" or whatever. No fun allowed, I guess? I agree that it would ideally have rewards linked to the main game, but this is the one time I feel like the event itself will be fun enough to be worth playing in its own right. Chocobo breeding and racing failed because not only did it not have rewards, but it just plain wasn't fun and was a pointless gilsink if you wanted to be good at it. Nobody goes to "chocobo racing" so that they can watch cutscenes ad nauseum, they want to...well, race. Pankration was a lot of fun IMO, but the problem was that it was never updated after that initial patch...it felt like they had so much more planned for it, then they just gave up for no reason. If the monsters had 150-250 FP by the time they reached higher levels we'd see more than just dark elementals and chigoes sitting in the champion's seat all day.

Moblin Mazes did have good rewards, for the people that said it didn't, you just had to really work for them (The weapons were all pretty good and a couple pieces of armor from it were good). The problem was that it was advertised as a "customized dungeon" when it was more "put on runes and hope something good happens".

As for questions for the dev team...can you ask them if this system will be linked to Pankration somehow? I really think that would make this a lot more fun. You'd customize a monster, then would be able to play as it.

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Originally Posted by noirin

As was mentioned a few times, Fighting adventurers is part of a Daily Monster's life. Does this mean that we HAVE to fight? as such, does this mean i can simply be trolled when i want to fight other monsters, and have high level players hunting me down in the process? is there some kind of forced cap if a higher player attempts to hunt me? I.E. if i'm a rabbit in saruta, around lvl 5, does a lvl 99 player who randomly decides to attack me incur some sort of penalty [ A level or power restriction] ? or am i just ment to let them destroy me?

I'm more than open to the idea of PvP with this, but just like how i can do things by myself in Aby here and there, i don't want to always do this content with the worry of other players taking me out every few minutes. Rapidly dying =/= Fun Times.

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I'm with you on this.

@ SE: Forced PvP opens up ways to constantly grief other players, so don't implement this idea. It doesn't matter if you think that fighting adventurers is an everyday occurrence for monsters, forcing an unavoidable PvP encounter on players opens to door to abuses and harassment. If I wanted this aspect of game play, I'd be playing another MMO.

Honestly, if this is the way the Play As A Monster system is going to operate, I won't even bother to unlock the content.

I was going to respond by saying it'd be monumentally stupid of them to not add in some kind of toggle for people wanting to PvPMonsters or not, but then I realized what dev team we're dealing with here.

I only have 1 thing to say:

So this is what is more important then the SMN updates that were promised/disclosed over 2 years ago? Fixes to the various jobs and their lack of usefulness?

Seriously, I cannot even describe the fail that this is when there are so many things that need to be fixed. Failed, failed and more fail, SE!

It's important to be positive about things.

Yeah, people can use this to harass you. But you can also use this to harass other people! Just think of the dickish possibilities before you, floating in an infinite sea of vinegar and water!

I for one am looking forward to it. It doesn't fix some (actually many) issues in the game, but it's a fairly fresh idea for PvP.