Please implement countermeasures for cheaters in Nyzul Isle Uncharted Region

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Originally Posted by Jamesy

all i see in this post is people crying about something that has 0 effect on them what so ever. your not compete for pops your not trying to beat someone else for a better reward. so just shut up its like old nyzul isle get over it your small group is in their alone what another group does wont effect you.

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Salvage dupes had no direct effect on me either but SE banned tons of folks for it. But as others have said, if SE sees people getting to floor 100 and doesn't know they cheated to do so, they won't fix the event and assume its "working as intended". Using 3rd party tools to gain an unfair advantage is strictly against the EULA and should be punished appropriately.

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Originally Posted by Mirabelle

Salvage dupes had no direct effect on me either but SE banned tons of folks for it. But as others have said, if SE sees people getting to floor 100 and doesn't know they cheated to do so, they won't fix the event and assume its "working as intended". Using 3rd party tools to gain an unfair advantage is strictly against the EULA and should be punished appropriately.

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Duplicating items 'messes with the economy' - where clearing floors slightly faster really has marginal-no effect on anyone else.

People always down "aby noobs" for not knowing their job and such, but "hack noobs" are worse when content comes out is a challenge and they "must" use hacks. No content requires hacks, it requires people that aren't so dependent on hacks that they can do simple things.

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Originally Posted by Starry

Duplicating items 'messes with the economy' - where clearing floors slightly faster really has marginal-no effect on anyone else.

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Read my post again, and tell me it has no effect on anyone else.

If you cant do that, I'll grade1-ify it:
Little Timmy is given 30 minutes to complete a math test, along with the rest of the class. No external notes are accepted, not even a cheat sheet. Little Johnny snuck in a cheat sheet. Everyone in the class fails to complete the test, except for Little Johnny. The class complains about how the test was impossible to complete in the given timeframe, even the class nerd who has generally been getting 90% or higher on all previous homeworks, but the teacher says the complaints are unfounded because Little Johnny finished in time.

No re-test is given and all the children get grades of 20-60%, except for Little Johnny who scored somewhere between 80-100%, who passed because he was cheating.

Little Johnny's cheating should have no effect on the outcome of the other classmates's results, it obviously did.

Oh don't worry they will...in about 2 or 3 years like with Salvage bans.

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Originally Posted by Nynja

Read my post again, and tell me it has no effect on anyone else.

If you cant do that, I'll grade1-ify it:
Little Timmy is given 30 minutes to complete a math test, along with the rest of the class. No external notes are accepted, not even a cheat sheet. Little Johnny snuck in a cheat sheet. Everyone in the class fails to complete the test, except for Little Johnny. The class complains about how the test was impossible to complete in the given timeframe, even the class nerd who has generally been getting 90% or higher on all previous homeworks, but the teacher says the complaints are unfounded because Little Johnny finished in time.

No re-test is given and all the children get grades of 20-60%, except for Little Johnny who scored somewhere between 80-100%, who passed because he was cheating.

Little Johnny's cheating should have no effect on the outcome of the other classmates's results, it obviously did.

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Yeah except in the real world and in SE's, the teacher really doesn't give a fuck if you passed or failed the test, regardless of the situation. Both feel their job is done and they go home to their husband/wife while the boy cries as his father is belting his ass. And his outcome had nothing to do with his other classmates. To think that scenario ever played out in the real world, it's the same as all the kids competing in a competition get a medal. it rarely happens except for special olympics so question is, how far down this rabbit hole you wanna go?

You must have had a really sad and pathetic childhood...

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Originally Posted by Disifer

Yeah except in the real world and in SE's, the teacher really doesn't give a fuck if you passed or failed the test, regardless of the situation. Both feel their job is done and they go home to their husband/wife while the boy cries as his father is belting his ass. And his outcome had nothing to do with his other classmates. To think that scenario ever played out in the real world, it's the same as all the kids competing in a competition get a medal. it rarely happens except for special olympics so question is, how far down this rabbit hole you wanna go?

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You never took curved exams in university, did you?

The funny thing is I've been "That guy" who gets a 98 on an exam while the class average is 45. Not through cheating, mind you, but it's certainly fucked plenty of people over as many profs in engineering classes will only curve to bring the highest grade to a 100. This means the class average of 45 was raised to a class average of 47 because one person managed to get a 98 on the exam.

If you don't understand why curving exams at the university level is important, well then you're probably either too young to know better or too disillusioned to care.

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

You never took curved exams in university, did you?

The funny thing is I've been "That guy" who gets a 98 on an exam while the class average is 45. Not through cheating, mind you, but it's certainly fucked plenty of people over as many profs in engineering classes will only curve to bring the highest grade to a 100. This means the class average of 45 was raised to a class average of 47 because one person managed to get a 98 on the exam.

If you don't understand why curving exams at the university level is important, well then you're probably either too young to know better or too disillusioned to care.

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Yeah I remember getting 90% on a biology exam where the class average was under 50% and they actually did curve my score to 113% just to bring the grades in line. Took pressure off the final knowing I had a 101% average going into the exam. Curved exams happened all the time when I was in University and certainly having a cheater screw things up would bollocks everyone else in that scenario.

If people are only obtaining good gear through cheating, it ruins things for the rest of us indirectly.

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Originally Posted by wish12oz

The best way to avoid people resorting to hacking, is to add content that doesn't require it

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Man, you ppl never stop complaining. And that statement ^^ is asinine beyond belief. If you don't want ppl to cheat, don't make content that is hard. Seriously? And of course if it were easy then you would be complaining about the game having no challenge to it. ... ... ... Oh wait, ppl already are'


People need to remember, their are 20 drastically different jobs. Their are ppl playing every day, and some once a week if their lucky. Some then spend eternity gaining better equipment, some that just get what time allows them to.
Their is a drastic range of everything in players. You'll never be able to make something thats perfect for every single one!