Operation Get SE to Listen

This'll probably fail due to the fact that the disgruntled are a vocal minority and the loss of their dues is not likely to make a significant impact on the company's bottom line.

There is no advantage to SE listening either, because if they do, there will simply be more demands and more whining. It's like the advance fee fraud, where paying the fees doesn't result in you getting your money, it only results in the scammers asking for more.

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Originally Posted by Alerith

SE provides the test servers so we can test the content.

SE provides the forums so we may leave feedback about the content.

SE listens to our feedback about the content.

SE is not required to act on our feedback about the content.

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That's it in a nutshell. Reminds me of something a Theology teacher once told me. "Just because God doesn't answer your prayers doesn't mean He isn't listening. It means he listened and the answer was no."

Like with prayer, where people expect God to be their personal genie, people expect that their every whim be fulfilled because it is asked for on the forum.

If SE wasn't listening to the playerbase, Abyssea wouldn't exist; 20,000 XP per hour would still be considered phenomenal; Fafnir, Behemoth, and Adamantoise would still be 24-hour pops; Field Manuals and Grounds Tomes would not automatically repeat and would only be useable once per day. That's just to name a few. SE is wise enough to realize that you can't please everyone, but they do the bst they can.

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Originally Posted by Zarchery

SE is wise enough to realize that you can't please everyone, but they do the bst they can.

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Indeed.

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Originally Posted by Brolic

i think the game is going in a great direction, I'm entirely satisfied

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You mean servers being shut down? because that is exactly where it is headed. You elitist are in a minority.

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Originally Posted by xbobx

You mean servers being shut down? because that is exactly where it is headed. You elitist are in a minority.

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He's not an elitist, he's just trolling everyone. His comments are deliberately placed to incite negative emotions to stir up hate. Best to just add him to your ignore list, he'll go away once people stop talking to him.

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Originally Posted by xbobx

You mean servers being shut down? because that is exactly where it is headed. You elitist are in a minority.

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Originally Posted by Brolic

Fights are short, ultimate weapons are attainable, downtime is almost nonexistent. idk what is there to hate

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where's the elitism there?

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Originally Posted by StingRay104

If you think one person won't make a difference, then for once just try it, you'd be surprised of the result.

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First of all, one person will never make a difference. That's your hippie mindset at work.

Secondly, as I said before, I have no problems with where XI is headed.

I think we just need to ask Square-Enix one thing as far as giving out feedback goes:

[SIZE="5"]What ever happened with that phrase that is held dear in Japan: "the customer is always right?" Why do you not apply this to suggestions we give out based on test server findings?[/SIZE]

In this instance, the playerbase knows probably everything about the game, even to the extent of the game's programming. Why is it that SE tries to keep every job in a homogenized state and not branch out a little bit more?

Why can't DRK get Dark Magic Fast Cast and Damaging Dark Magic that casts about as fast as Stun?

Why shouldn't RDM get thrown a bone on powerful light-Melee gear that MNK/THF/NIN/BLU/DNC and the like has the most access to every once in a while? I mean, would it kill your game to put RDM on something like Loki's Kaftan? Oh, and what's wrong with making their enfeebles not resist on high-tier NMs, huh? And what is the point of making RDM specialists at single-target and self-target enhancing magic? It would be a great deal if some of their enhancing magic, such as the Gain line of spells, had the ability to be casted on other people without having the WHM do it for them. It's detrimental alone not to be able to. Square-Enix knows we are right with this, but why have they not followed up with this criticism as solutions to the job's problems?

Why can't COR get a phantom roll with HASTE on it (Blitzer's is detrimental to 2-Hander TP Gain)? Where is that third roll they said was going to be in-game?

What chance is there for a PLD to hold hate anymore without having to rely on an Almace or Ochain for the casual player? Hardcore players have their own solution with that sword and shield combo. But what about the player who leveled Paladin as a side-job?

Is it really so much to change Camlann's Torment from VIT to either STR or DEX? DRG cant take advantage of such an out-of-place modifier as far as I know (Torcleaver is the only exception since DRK and PLD can turn it into a solid Weapon Skill with the right builds and attack boosts), DRG has been aching for a decent weapon skill for a while now, outside of having to hunt for a Ryunohige. The fact that Stardiver got a nerf at all is insult to injury. Why couldnt you just improve DRG as a Polearm specialist and not just leaving it as a cerulean sausage on a skewer being nibbled on by a flying lizard? (Dragonlord, don't slap me! lol)

What they've done with the level 99 Weapon Skills is a crime, and they know this. But the biggest crime of all was not doing anything about extra VoidWatch treasure that people cannot give away for reasons that they don't want it or they already have it. Square-Enix knows this takes only one simple fix, but they take a completely different roundabout way of doing it instead of enlightening us on why SE INSISTS on doing the things they do?

Square-Enix, we're not going to hoard loot this way! What a crock of shit to say that all this gear is going to go to one person only within a specific group of players! It goes to show how far disconnected we are between the Devs and the playerbase. What could go wrong if you had put in the solution we gave to you? Don't say people will get bored and quit, there is a LOT more to do in this game than that.

A lot of these questions and issues could still use some motherfuckin' answers.

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Originally Posted by Zarchery

This'll probably fail due to the fact that the disgruntled are a vocal minority and the loss of their dues is not likely to make a significant impact on the company's bottom line.

There is no advantage to SE listening either, because if they do, there will simply be more demands and more whining. It's like the advance fee fraud, where paying the fees doesn't result in you getting your money, it only results in the scammers asking for more.

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I don't necessarily agree with all of the complaints being voiced here.

Having said that, if you think the people complaining are in the minority, you're highly delusional. I can't escape people talking about how bad this game is getting, or how the Devs aren't listening. Anywhere. This board, BG, Alla, FFXIAH, in-game....even on Japanese boards. The feeling that SE is dropping the ball is fairly unanimous.

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Originally Posted by Zarchery

That's it in a nutshell. Reminds me of something a Theology teacher once told me. "Just because God doesn't answer your prayers doesn't mean He isn't listening. It means he listened and the answer was no."

Like with prayer, where people expect God to be their personal genie, people expect that their every whim be fulfilled because it is asked for on the forum.

If SE wasn't listening to the playerbase, Abyssea wouldn't exist; 20,000 XP per hour would still be considered phenomenal; Fafnir, Behemoth, and Adamantoise would still be 24-hour pops; Field Manuals and Grounds Tomes would not automatically repeat and would only be useable once per day. That's just to name a few. SE is wise enough to realize that you can't please everyone, but they do the bst they can.

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They recently said they consider Abyssea a mistake. And they replaced 24 hours pops with Voidwatch, an event you can do anytime, but the drop rates are so bad you spend the same amount of time you did all those years on the ground kings.