Terasan reminded me... Gorgets, Obis, and the Belts would all benefit from an eventual consolidated version of some degree, too.
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09-13-2011, 06:59 AMSeriha
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09-13-2011, 07:06 AMOphannus
Make a magian trial corresonding with a new staff. Make the final staff trial require you to trade all 8 of one +3 staff to get either:
Magic Affinity:Damage+7
or
Magic Affinity:Accuracy+7
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Avatar Perpetuation-7
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09-13-2011, 07:45 AMMalamasala
They also need a DD fusion. Empy + Occ hits 2-4 times would be a good fusion combo.
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09-13-2011, 10:05 AMAlhanelem
staves not staffs
Not all staves are needed by all jobs; I can't imagine someone needing to own all elemental staves and all magian staves. Summoner hasn't needed them any of them except maybe light for a long time, black mage has had minimal need for light staves and most black mages have had little regard for elements other than thunder and ice (dark for drain/aspir/etc). WHM only needs a few of them.
They're never going to consolodate these staves, because they would consider it too strong for all of the effects to be combined. To get a universal staff, you'd have to make some sacrifices (and a few such staves exist, however difficult to obtain they may be).
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09-13-2011, 10:27 AMKimbleIm sorry, but.. what at that bold part. Maybe you need to explain what you mean there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alhanelem
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09-13-2011, 10:30 AMAlhanelemWhat part of that needs explaining? You don't need any crafted or magian elemental staff to negate perpetuation cost on summoner and for non perpetuation cost purposes there are a number of good staves available for a fraction of the work required to obtain magian elemental staves.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kimble
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09-13-2011, 10:53 AMElexiaI'll admit my native tongue is Japanese but....Quote:
Originally Posted by Alhanelem
If you're correcting someone else for using staffs instead of staves, maybe you want to reword some of what you wrote. Then again maybe it's just something in English I'm not understanding.Quote:
Summoner hasn't needed them any of them except maybe light for a long time
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09-13-2011, 11:55 AMYuglBLU and COR need elemental staffs still. Others will use magian.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alhanelem
You already have the strength of the staffs, so that's a bogus remark. Considering the strength of these staffs, people are more likely to give up situational pieces rather than Magian staffs. Considering how difficult they are to obtain, they warrant the power of a unified staff. Total the number of mobs you need to kill (Especially along the magic accuracy line) and you'll see what I mean.Quote:
They're never going to consolodate these staves, because they would consider it too strong for all of the effects to be combined. To get a universal staff, you'd have to make some sacrifices (and a few such staves exist, however difficult to obtain they may be).
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09-13-2011, 12:18 PMDallasYeah... no. Anyone but me crazy enough to own both?Quote:
Originally Posted by Malamasala
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09-13-2011, 04:10 PMAlhanelemIt's not a bogus remark. It would be like consolodating all situational gear for <job>'s <insert gear slot here> slot into one item. It's really not much different from that. Also, I'm not necessarily speaking of what *we* consider too powerful but rather what SE considers too powerful. Obviously SE considersQuote:
You already have the strength of the staffs, so that's a bogus remark.
"All magic damage +20% in the elemental staff slot of the equation"
<insert all other individual ele. staff benefits here>
too powerful. Maybe we don't, but they do, and that's why it doesn't happen. That's all I'm saying.
Umm... the Magian staves are the situational pieces. Each staff for a different avatar, or two that benefit all of them. Hmm... tough decision, especially considering you don't need them for their perpetuaiton at all, only for pet MAB...Quote:
people are more likely to give up situational pieces rather than Magian staffs.
You're probably fooling everyone here then, because you don't sound like English isn't your native tongue. (Where's all the cool japenese smilies then? :( ) So... allow me to fix up my statment a bit here:Quote:
I'll admit my native tongue is Japanese but....
"Summoner hasn't needed any of them, except maybe light staff, for a long time."