Guess someone is going for the teacher's pet award. Why take joy out of someone losing their brew? If other people's misfortunes bring you amusement, that speaks volumes of your character.
Also, stop defending the paralysis-causes-lost-items mechanic. It is not born from some idea that this should happen, but a by-product of poor programming designed to prevent item dupes.
Anyone remember Zelda from the NES, how Link switched sword hands depending on if he was going left or right? Nintendo explained this as Link was superstitious and wanted to keep his shield facing Death Mountain. Some of you undoubtedly believed them.
"Paralysis strikes you as you have the item out of your pocket"... give me a break. How come it never hits with the item still in your pocket or as you go down to reach it? And where is my pocket if I'm in a subligar?
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03-12-2011, 11:52 PMTenshibaby
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03-12-2011, 11:56 PMArcon
Check out this thread:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...tten-the-shaft
It's all been said before there. Also, OP never said it was a bug, he was just fed up, which he should be. I've wasted brews myself, namely when nothing dropped that I wanted. That certainly sucks, but it's ok, because sometimes you just don't get lucky. This is different though, on an entirely different scale.
Thread summary:
It's annoying, it makes no sense and it isn't always avoidable, please stop saying things like "Don't use stuff when paralyzed", that's both wrong and oh so extremely unhelpful. I've lost lots of stuff on paralyze that activated midcast (I'm looking at you, Hex Eye), toolbags, food, temp items, etc. So what, don't use any items at all when fighting mobs with a paralyze move? Because if you do and get paralyzed you deserved it and you're stupid? And there's plenty of other situations, outside of fights even when you're paralyzed and no cure for it is available. So what, just stand around and look stupid for several minutes just to wait for it to wear? Not to mention there's para which can last for ages.
It simply impairs gameplay, and then people come and tell you "That's a debuff, it's supposed to be annoying!" which is also wrong, it's supposed to be challenging, those are two different things. I don't mind dying while I'm terrorized, or have the mob run after the black mages or supporters, I don't mind weakness, sleep, amnesia, I accept all of those, even though they're just as or even more challenging (yes, even Sleepga, no one can tell me that Sleepga didn't ruin at least one zerg attempt for them, cause people forgot (or didn't bother with) poisons). But that's ok, cause that's how the game is supposed to work, people mess up, and it doesn't impair the gameplay, even amnesia, which is almost unremoveable (bar Ecphoria Ring). Paralyze however does, not only does it impair your ability to play in and outside of a battle (which is acceptable) but also punishes you for trying (which no other status effect does), by something not gameplay-related either, just by costing you potentially a lot of money/cruor/time (think Regain Feather.. I hope that doesn't ever happen to someone).
Tired of ranting about this, some things you can argue about, others you don't. I didn't hear any arguments against "fixing" this yet, just statements like "it's your own fault" or "don't use it", which are absurd. The only actual argument was that the dev team has better things to work on right now, and I agree, I'm not saying it should be right now, but fixing things is part of their job, and this isn't excluded from it. All I'm saying is that it would be nice if someone addressed this, sooner or later.
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Amen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tenshibaby
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03-13-2011, 02:13 AMAlhanelem
HOW CAN YOU LET YOURSELF USE AN ITEM WHEN YOU'RE PARALYZED? /sorrycaps.
You'd think people would simply learn not to do it. Now, i'm not necessarily saying they shouldnt change this, but it's a known and established factor of the game that's easily avoidable if you're paying any attention at all.
it IS always avoidable. You have a WHM on the ball removing it from you, or you try using status removal items first at least.Quote:
It's annoying, it makes no sense and it isn't always avoidable, please stop saying things like "Don't use stuff when paralyzed"
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03-13-2011, 02:52 AMArconYou don't always have a WHM and what if other items don't help? Also, that is completely beside the point, just read the next line right after the one you quoted. I'm so tired of explaining this time and again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alhanelem
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03-13-2011, 02:54 AMAlhanelemIf you don't bring someone with status heals, then you're doing something wrong.Quote:
You don't always have a WHM and what if other items don't help?
I don't know anything that can't be brewed down from full HP. If you're solo brewing, you shouldn't be paralyzed before the fight even started. If you have people for triggers, then you probably have someone who can cure statuses. -
03-13-2011, 02:56 AMRaesvelgDude.Quote:
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03-13-2011, 02:59 AMAlhanelem
Just FYI, I certainly wouldn't complain if they changed it, I just disagree with the argument that "it's not always avoitable." It IS always avoidable.
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03-13-2011, 03:00 AMCream_Soda
Don't use the item when you're paralyzed and it won't get eaten.
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03-13-2011, 03:21 AMArcon
I think people are being intensionally dense now. Either that or they're trolling, which I suspect is the case with some of them..
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03-13-2011, 04:01 AMAlhanelem
We're not trolling. There's simply no excuse for losing items to paralyze because all you have to do is see "oh, I'm paralyzed," and not use your item. Especially with a brew, better to die and reraise if the situation is so dire, than to risk losing a brew.
If they change this, they'll make a lot of people happy, for sure. It's just not real critical or important because it's an easy to avoid obstacle.