With all the changes, do you think SE is trying to end us/this

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Originally Posted by Sparthos

Just for you, I'll comment on the OP. The fact is that SE is winding down XI.

All of the concessions made in Abyssea were to keep the dwindling base happy as XIV eventually ascended to it's freshly minted spot as flagship SE online title.

What better way to keep us all happy than to turn a harsh and barren desert into an lively oasis of treasure? This game before Abyssea sported the wonderful world of VNMs and the most poorly designed HNM ever brought forth on Vana'diel - Yilbegan.

Things were terrible in FFXI. So bad in fact, SE qualified an NM that drops Darksteel Ingots and Ebony Logs as the centerpiece of a version update.

The plan seemed to be exciting players old and new in XI via Abyssea to then move onto XIV as faith was restored in the company. You could easily "finish up" XI and be content enough to move on to greener pastures.... except the greener pasture turned out to be a no-mans land.

When XIV fell through, the plan backfired. You had individuals once again clinging to XI because the new game failed except SE doesn't seem to have any intention of giving XI any new expansions due to PS2 limitations and the fact that money is best spent on a new game rather than a nearly decade-old one.

So now we sit in limbo. We know what SE has planned for a good while out and no expansions are in the works. This is either a surprise designed to excite individuals are a subtle way of saying that XI is done in terms of world expansion and new places to explore.

With how long it took to hammer out WOTG and how devoid of content the 3 side packs were, it's not exactly shocking to have little faith that no further expansions are being designed.

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I agree with you. Im just not likeing the fact that im gonna have to start playing on a PC. for FFXIV. Ive enjoyed the 360 now so much, Playing on my big ass screen and its nice graphics. I guess if i had the option to play 14 on a console................ Im gonna have to conform lol.

Anyone know if and when there will be a console release?

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Anyone know if and when there will be a console release?

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It's already on consoles, but hopefully not for much longer. SE keeps on proving to the world that MMOs are not meant for consoles.

But why does that have to be a bad thing? If you really want "the console experience" you can hook a PC up to a TV, use a game pad, and the experience is no different. Why do people have to act as if the only way to play PC games is sitting at a desk with the screen right in front of you?

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

That's not a fact a all, and in fact they're not winding it down but turning things up.. They're doing a lot to work within the constraints they have and I'm impressed with that. However, sooner or later, they're going to have to address some key problems such as the consoles with the restricted disk space in order to make new content more original.

They can't afford to "wind it down" until, at a bare minimum, XIV is taking in money. And it's still completely uncertain when or if that will happen.

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And if you read the rest of his post you'll see that he answers that. I completly agree with what Sparthos has said, the final Abyssea expansion was released not that long after FFXIV, and people completed their things in Abyssea a few months after, by that time people would have moved to FFXIV, and a lot did. But like he said, it backfired. FFXIV didn't do near as well as they planned and now they're trying to salvage it. They made the forums to find out exactly what the player base wants and asking so much which direction they would like the developers to go in.

I think that the plan was to slowly entice people to move to FFXIV, when they didn't happen they're trying to make people stick to FFXI while they fix FFXIV to be more acceptable. I bet when they start charging for the game they'll do something to truly end FFXI and have people migrate over.

No idea on console release date yet, but I personally like the pc for play, I use it for xi and xiv. As it stands right now they are making sweeping changes to xiv and the ppl behind those changes are doing a fantastic job. Most of the players who have stuck with xiv with hopes of improvement tip their hats to these ppl.

As for a big screen, I just run a wire from my pc to my tv, I get all the niceness of a pc on a tv screen, and even when im on my monitor I have a 30" widescreen anyway and when ur that close its more than enough.

The naysayers who still want too poopoo xiv need to give it another try. XI was horrid when it was first released too and it got better as time went on. Granted not as bad as xiv but it was still pretty much a steaming pile. Just dont be prepared for the ease xi has us used too. The exp isnt as easy come, there are no exp bonus rings or pages or anything of the sort beyond leves and those rewards are being drastically adjusted to prevent power lvling.

What I told my bored ls was that they may as well spend $25 get xiv now to get in on the bottom floor and play while its free (both in currency and in trolls) since xi is winding down anyway. Well after I did that most of them switched and are now full time xiv players so my ls in xi is dead lol. On the brightside tho is we all still play together in xiv.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

It's already on consoles, but hopefully not for much longer. SE keeps on proving to the world that MMOs are not meant for consoles.

But why does that have to be a bad thing? If you really want "the console experience" you can hook a PC up to a TV, use a game pad, and the experience is no different. Why do people have to act as if the only way to play PC games is sitting at a desk with the screen right in front of you?

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lol xiv is not on console yet

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

It's already on consoles, but hopefully not for much longer. SE keeps on proving to the world that MMOs are not meant for consoles.

But why does that have to be a bad thing? If you really want "the console experience" you can hook a PC up to a TV, use a game pad, and the experience is no different. Why do people have to act as if the only way to play PC games is sitting at a desk with the screen right in front of you?

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"HMMMMM 1817 posts on here already, man you have a lot to say ^^^^^^^^"



Wish it was more constructive though.
All this poster does is seem cause conflict and such lol

So you say its on console? what one? Ps3 release wasnt done as far as I know,

To answer you. I Dont want to play on PC, its my choice to use a console. WTF do you care.

I think the problem with "XI was as bad as XIV at launch" comparison is that comparing a new generation MMO to a dinosaur like XI assumes that the launch conditions were the same in both instances.

It isnt.

XI launched during an era where mistakes could be made and content designed to be infuriating because the target market of MMOs were individuals who could take huge grinds, had large amounts of time to play and were willing to put up with nonsense from the developers. It also helped that the competition wasn't nearly as crowded as it is now.

Look at XI through CoP and you'll see a track record of the developers writing the players off, dismissing their input as garbage while the companies vision of the game continued to expand. You got the crown jewel of FFXI during this era (CoPs storyline) but you also saw an exodus of players as SE stonewalled on user-friendliness.

Some never came back. Even when TOAU turned things into a more "friendly" XI, the game never got back the initial crowds that joined at the height of the game.

Flash forward to XIV and you see some of the same issues repeated. SE put the game through tests, players voiced concerns that the product wasn't up to par yet someone at SE decided to ignore those issues and launch the game anyway.... and here we are.

If XIV manages to overcome its terrible launch, it'd be one of the only MMOs to ever do so. While it is true that SE has enough money to potentially make history, wooing players back to the game in addition to solidifying a stable base will be the true test for the game.

I think the greatest fear is that SE manages to pull XIV out of a nosedive only to be permanently stunted by the original failure.

Never said xi was as bad as xiv. Reread that, I said it was bad as well, not as bad but still bad. As in lack of content, bugs and such.

If ppl dont wanna give xiv a second chance, fine with me, dont really want/need that kind of player anyway in an mmo, hence why i dont play WoW and barely play xi anymore.

SE just jumped the gun in release and are working on repairs. BUT they are doing a fantastic job on those repairs and their work should not go unnoticed. By the time we have console release it should be a good well rounded game that ppl will enjoy. Those of us who have been with it since beta are finally relaxing that it wont be axed soon.

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Originally Posted by chubrocka

"HMMMMM 1817 posts on here already, man you have a lot to say ^^^^^^^^"




All this poster does is cause conflict and such lol.

So you say its on console? what one? Ps3 release wasnt done as far as I know,

To answer you. I Dont want to play on PC, its my choice to use a console. WTF do you care.

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Yeah hes a forums troll/negative nancy, best to just ignore.

XIV is going to be for ps3, as xbox wants to get away from mmo gaming as massive as xiv they refused to support it. (although this story is up for debate, thats just the common idea of why its not on 360)

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Originally Posted by Michae

Yeah hes a forums troll/negative nancy, best to just ignore.

XIV is going to be for ps3, as xbox wants to get away from mmo gaming as massive as xiv they refused to support it. (although this story is up for debate, thats just the common idea of why its not on 360)

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I looked forward to the supposed release date on ps3 and when it didnt happen.................... I sure would like to be assured that it will. Do you by chance have any site to read on that progress?