Abyssea ruined low level XP parties

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1-2 pullers that know how to pull and not die

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This was easy as fk at 75. What makes you think this is hard at 90? lol

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most importanly a level sync that has to be continually deleveled.

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Syncs were always the absolute easiest slot to fill in a smn burn. Who are you fooling?

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You also have very few zones that it can be done well in and have to deal with competition.

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nah, there were plenty of zones you could do this. Now, with the cap at 90, there are more zones you can do this in w/ a decent puller.

I think the point is that Abyssea has rendered obsolete most of the remaining battle content of the game. It's like the WalMart of Vana'diel.

I don't think raising the level requirement in Abyssea is an option. It's too late for that; the deed is done.

Changes need to made to re-purpose the other areas. The only way I can think of to do that is to offer experience and rewards on par with those offered in Abyssea, or create some new incentive that isn't available in Abyssea. Short of that, there is no incentive to utilize the standard game content for leveling, which means a majority of the game is now useless. SE has their work cut out for them if they intend to fix it.

I don't necessarily want the old game back. I just want the whole game back.

I don't particularly want to be dragged off onto arguing about smn burning, most people know they are not the same thing and one is harder to setup than the other.

My point with the post was to maybe pass on something that is having a negative effect on the playerbase that they may not realise is happening. If they read it and agree with it then hopefuilly it will change, if not oh well.

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Originally Posted by Runespider

If they read it and agree with it then hopefuilly it will change, if not oh well.

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If this was the point of your thread, then it's pointless, as there's already 4-5 other topics addressing the same issue, lol.

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Originally Posted by Runespider

I disagree, new players and most everyone else for that matter sure wants to do them.

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Then do them with this "most" you speak of. Shouldn't be that hard since you are in the majority. Why are you wasting your time here complaining, when you could be smacking away on bats in Garlaige, or dare I say it, Ants in QSC, for 6k per hour, and lots of downtime? Be sure everyone is able to make distortion too, even when you are fighting crabs.

Or is it really just many, or some? A few? Pretty much no one but masochists? If you are going to pretend like you actually know what you are talking about, at least make up some fake statistics to go with the BS. Hard numbers are very comforting, even when they are simply pulled from the ass.

We don't need a new thread every day about this.

1. If enough people wanted to do old school parties, you would be able to find a party. The fact that everyone wants to level in Abyssea proves that you are in a very small minority.

2. You can still party the old school way, nothing is stopping you. The fact that you want to force everyone to do it your way is the real problem.

Until you have an answer to both of these points all threads about old school XP parties vs. Abyssea XP will just be whining, and will get locked eventually.

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Originally Posted by ringthree

We don't need a new thread every day about this.

1. If enough people wanted to do old school parties, you would be able to find a party. The fact that everyone wants to level in Abyssea proves that you are in a very small minority.

2. You can still party the old school way, nothing is stopping you. The fact that you want to force everyone to do it your way is the real problem.

Until you have an answer to both of these points all threads about old school XP parties vs. Abyssea XP will just be whining, and will get locked eventually.

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To be fair, #1 prevents #2. If absolutely no one is willing to exp outside of abyssea, then that prevents those that do from doing so.

It doesn't really matter though, since the first point is all that is needed.

People usually go where ever the exp is best, regardless of how fun or not it is there.

Abyssea leeching isn't exactly exciting either, the fix shoud probably be to make non-abyssea 6-man parties even more appealing.

Personally, I am satisfied with the current increase in exp, because it lets me duo and trio at an acceptable rate with my friends. I don't really care that I could have gotten 4 times the exp as an abyssea leech, that shit's just too boring.

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Originally Posted by Runespider

But if you learned how to make an xp party they could then go make an abyssea alliance instead, this still puts the vast majority of players out in the cold. Some will never ever make a party, lack of confidence or whatever and Square have to decide if losing players because they can't get xp parties is better than keeping a small number of players that leech happy. I know which option I would go for if I wanted to make money from subs long-term.

If players can't get xp parties they can't make friends or gain shells either, its a really big problem. I don't care how selfish some are they at least have to have some sense to see how bad that is for the life of a game they still play.

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If a lot of people are left in the cold because of people exping in Abyssea parties why don't they all form up and make an old fashioned exp party? Surely not all of these people (the vast majority) are lacking in the confidence to put together an exp party all the time?

Why are you so concerned about holding the hands of the vast majority? Surely they are able to function normally?

I used the Abyssea-key person method for my WAR to get to 75. I needed a place for the 20 merits I was carrying around. I will say I found it incredibly boring to level like that but fighting basically for free with capped exp and merits is no fun either. Now that my WAR is 76, I have been doing skillups for my available weapons, not just concentrating on one weapon. I solo using my NPC fellow getting exp for me, my NPC, and getting skills for my weapons. All weapons that my WAR can use are now a minimum of 180, some are higher due to other jobs and when I started they were near level 25 WAR status.