Suggestions: Quality of Life Stuff and other suggestions

Exactly, and just like with other campaigns, when they're not on, people frequently don't want to do the related content. Incursion campaign, even the exp campaign.

I get the business angle of campaigns: get hyped, the thing you wanted is finally available but it just leaves everyone who missed out behind until SE brings it 'round again. Like Sulevia's +1 after this month, or certain trusts (like good RDMs*, Ullegore, Shantotto II,).

* They did add a tutorial-method to obtain Koru-Moru.

I'd honestly just rather the old stuff be more consistently available. For instance, make high quality augments more common, as a permanent fixture of SR. I have a few max-stat pieces, a few decent, and a few that I've never seen a good version (Witching robe, lengo pants).

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Originally Posted by OmnysValefor

I'd honestly just rather the old stuff be more consistently available. For instance, make high quality augments more common, as a permanent fixture of SR. I have a few max-stat pieces, a few decent, and a few that I've never seen a good version (Witching robe, lengo pants).

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If it would interest people I'd wish for it too, though due to their recent response I find it sadly unlikely.

I do find it a little odd we can buy Shantotto II with points but they claim Trusts from SR are too powerful to "be made more available". I can agree with a previous poster they aren't as strong as they seem, its just the reality has "anyway" been that people seem to run the event for August.

Rhapsody KI were known for changing a number of things in the game to become more convenient. The changes they made to Adoulin content were sort of lackluster, likely because Adoulin is the most recent expansion. Its a shame we have to rely on the creation of Vagary events or see Sinister Reign in its current state when you can go run 10 minute Assaults, re-enter Dynamis, buy 1kgil Voidwatch nerfers etc.

I think the devs just love Shantotto, and are super proud of that model that is used for her.

The "they are too strong to be made available to more people and if we did so we would have to nerf them" is an answer to people asking for certain items to be made a little easier to get, as in Idris.

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Originally Posted by Pixela

The "they are too strong to be made available to more people and if we did so we would have to nerf them" is an answer to people asking for certain items to be made a little easier to get, as in Idris.

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Whoa, if August is as good as an Idris sounds like I need to get more serious about snagging this dude! 6 months sounds like totally nothing now :eek:

Funny, I was wondering that since I came back. The tag changes really make Mythics so much faster. It was always odd to me that Ergons don't have coalitions adjusted, it feels like a real shame.

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Originally Posted by Eradius

Because every team I've formed, every last person is after August. In that regard, Trust:August is both the attraction of the event, and the cause of its inherent problems of "attraction".

I've formed over ten teams in the past two weeks and I made sure to ask what people were after. I even had to cancel a team after our tank got his August and bolted. While veteran players may find some use in creating macro-slots for especially high augmented versions of the gear, the reality is that almost anyone attempting SR in our current time is after August. Because of that, I also know I'm not alone in the woes of trying to run the content. Most black mages I bring are so fresh they don't have Death. Many admit they leveled the class simply to have a chance at SR and August. This is due to many teams simply not wanting to run the event without 2-3 BLM's.

It just seems to be the situation, everyone running it is after August, and they seem to stop showing up forever once they get the Trust Cipher. That is why a lot of what I try to convince is to make the other rewards equal in desirability to this Trust.

Look at it this way, if people I invited were telling me they were there for Floral hands, then we'd have people who want those also showing up. If people were telling me they were there for Samnuha, we'd have a pool of people wanting Samnuha stuff showing up.

Instead everyone just says they're there for August and "thats it". Once they get August, the event is dead to them. This means out of all the possible ways to attract a player to the event, there's only one (those who have not yet obtained August), and thats why its very difficult to get a full team. This pool of people also continues to shrink with time.

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Sounds like August needs a boost in drop-rate more than anything. I do recall the cipher being a bit too rare, but I got him before they supposedly fixed the SR "rewards".

Definitely agree with the points on the campaigns. While it can be very fun to have campaigns sometimes, the direction of the game has gone a bit too far into being a "campaign-fest." This is hurtful for multiple reasons:

1. When a campaign is going on (let's say: crafting skillup bonus for everyone!), it becomes much more difficult to form parties for doing anything else, because everyone is crafting like deranged dhalmels on a full moon.

2. Stress: You have to rush to complete before the time is up. Tell your wife that you can't see her for a while because you want shining stars over your head. (..after which she will possibly provide for you)

3. The game dictates what you should really do next. I dislike this in many games, and I love FFXI because it's sandbox. I want to choose what I want to do (what's most fun for me at that moment) and when. Not because there's quadruple drop bonus for certain content that could potentially make me a gillionaire. You can't tempt me. No. Please don't.

4. It's a big thing if you miss out. The punishment can be huge! That shouldn't be the case. The game should be more focused on rewards, not punishments.

Rather than those, take a more balanced approach where there is no steep difference between having a campaign and not having it. (I'm looking at you, Capacity Points)

This would benefit the game a lot more.

My four cents. (Double cent campaign with increased frequency in player feedback)

Missing a reward is not a punishment.

Personally, I like the campaigns.

Yes, XI is a sandbox. Sometimes it's too much of a sandbox. So much that I don't know what to do with myself.

"I can get double drops from hard mode mission battles right now" helps me be like "huh, maybe I will try that."

I hadn't tried soloing those until this event - because it seemed not worthwhile at the skill level I am at.

But then the campaign happened and I felt it was worth a shot. Now, not only do I know I can do these on my own - but I have some neat gear I got from soloing them.

That's a win for me.

If you don't need the campaign to enjoy the content you enjoy - go do it, but I am pleased with the campaigns giving me some ideas of fun ways to pass the time.

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Originally Posted by Olor

Missing a reward is not a punishment.

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It basically is. You suffer for the duration until SE decides to offer the reward again and missing some of the rewards is quite punitive.

Let's assume they had an SR campaign that dropped two pieces of gear to your personal pool, twice the chance at something good/perfect augmented. Everyone who missed this (came back to the game later) would have a more difficult time obtaining some of this gear which is still useful.

Great, we got Kupofried this month, but players who miss out have to wait til next time, making their solo-xp grind more painful.

Well with Kupofried you can predict when you get it ahead of time, since it happens on the anniversary which then also has a return home campaign so, yeah. Kinda no reason to not have it.

Except that, like me, I came back in November and had to wait 7 months to get him.

Now granted, I like grouping, it wasn't really detrimental to anything I was doing. I also tend to play group-friendly jobs. Just an example.

I've said before that exp-campaign should be on full-time (and thus not a campaign at all).

I'd be all about trusts being available full time, an SR campaign being always on.

The only things that work as campaigns, imo, is things like gobbiedial/abj campaign because there are ways to get abjurations outside of the campaign. I'm even okay with HTBF campaign for Beitetsu etc.

I want the void watch campaign to be on full time. I hate void watch.

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Originally Posted by Ulth

I want the void watch campaign to be on full time. I hate void watch.

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I do too. Same with the Atma campaign. I'd love to see Abyssea changed now so that Red!! was auto-proc'd. Carrying around old weapons sucks, finding people to team up with for procs sucks.

Not yellow or blue, I'd be happy with just red.

(I've had all atma, that I know of, for years)

I actually don't mind red procs. I actually farmed all my twashtar items recently and it wasn't that bad. Thf/war I'm missing 4 out of 13 total so my odds were pretty high anyway, and even if you don't proc red the ki still has an okay chance of dropping. What was the real time sink though was the re spawn time of the timed spawn nms.

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Originally Posted by Ulth

I want the void watch campaign to be on full time. I hate void watch.

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Don't do it then?

The campaigns definitely do punish you for not participating or missing out. If you miss the Incursion campaign, you'll be lucky to see anyone doing it otherwise (why would I want NQ coffers at all when I can spam the campaign for HQ ones?). Voidwatch? Walk of Echoes? Forget it. Wildskeeper Reive campaigns have effectively killed the market on HPBs (on my server). After the Rainbow campaign, people we practically /tossing them because they took up all their inventory (all the Idris/Epeolatry seekers got their weapons and peaced out). The most recent WKR event was a ghost town.

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Originally Posted by Pixela

Don't do it then?

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When the campaign isn't on I don't. Sometimes not even when the campaign is on... Still want those HMP though.

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Originally Posted by Eradius

SR is and event designed to be taken by a party of 6 players, which means it needs to have a way to draw lots of people.

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Nah, Done it with 3 before. It's not majorly hard content, and as many have mentioned before, there is much more reward and reasons to go than just August.

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Originally Posted by OmnysValefor

I do too. Same with the Atma campaign. I'd love to see Abyssea changed now so that Red!! was auto-proc'd. Carrying around old weapons sucks, finding people to team up with for procs sucks.

Not yellow or blue, I'd be happy with just red.

(I've had all atma, that I know of, for years)

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Yeah, except that FFXI was always a game that emphasised the importance of levelling multiple jobs, multiple weapons, multiple skills.

It is not hard to switch to WAR/thf or MNK/thf for Abyssea farming. Its not really hard to have about eight level 1~30 proc weapons in your moghouse, that you can use for farming Red staggers.

I solo'd a bunch of Aby-stage Empys on WAR/thf, without trusts, it is super easy really. Sub /thf helps with farming the Sub-Boss pop items, as does Atma of Dread.

I think it would be a sad day if the game became just "I want to play my main job all the time, and use my main weapon all the time." The Abyssea treasure system requires procs, that is the game system, and you can easily beat this game system by switching to WAR or MNK, and bringing some level 1~30 weapons.

They already made Aby easy because ilvl makes you invincible, they added trusts too, and the random chance of a "free" stagger without procs has increased greatly since the early days.

I think it would be a shame if all the unusual challenges are removed from FFXI, and a person can farm any content on their favourite job / favourite weapon, just bulldozing through content. I like Aby procs because it is a finessed system, you need to focus and play the game, not simply Hulk Smash everything.

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Originally Posted by Stompa

Yeah, except that FFXI was always a game that emphasised the importance of levelling multiple jobs, multiple weapons, multiple skills.

It is not hard to switch to WAR/thf or MNK/thf for Abyssea farming. Its not really hard to have about eight level 1~30 proc weapons in your moghouse, that you can use for farming Red staggers.

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I can use those inventory slots for other things, lol.

And yeah, you wanna equip a weak weapon so you don't do an 8k retribution, which means your trusts are suddenly 99-0 and taking a lot of damage.

I didn't terribly mind abyssea when abyssea was relevant but it's not even fun to be there anymore. We're naturally attack-capped against everything in there in our 119 gear, don't even get the momentary laugh of a huge ws.

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Originally Posted by OmnysValefor

I can use those inventory slots for other things, lol.

And yeah, you wanna equip a weak weapon so you don't do an 8k retribution, which means your trusts are suddenly 99-0 and taking a lot of damage.

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I solo farmed five Empys for myself, before Trusts were allowed, and it was easy. So I don't see the problem of having your Trusts drop from 119.

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I didn't terribly mind abyssea when abyssea was relevant

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Lol, Abyssea is still "relevant" if you want an Empy. If you don't want an Empy, don't farm Abyssea. Sinister Reign and other endgame content is not "relevant" either, because I don't want gear from it. Content only becomes relevant when you want some loot from it, and if you want loot from content that requires procs, you should go on a proc job and bring a handful of low level proc weapons.

I feel like you're trying to be difficult. I didn't mind abyssea when abyssea was challenging content that the majority participated in on a daily basis. Now it's a pain to lug out weapons and try to not kill the boss.

A lot of people here seem to argue for "but its actually not so bad to do" on various things. Is this not the Quality of Life thread where we identify small inconvenient stuff that the devs could feel is easily improved?

I think we should remember to keep that in mind.

I don't find it inconvenient to deal with Aby but I was always very used to it. Yet I can completely understand peoples irritation with it especially if they're very new with a job or two or very old with inventory issues.

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Originally Posted by Stompa

I'm really not trying to be difficult, I think you are a nice guy and I often LIKE your posts and find myself nodding along with you in agreement.

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I like you too. Fitting that we know each other only as characters, because I find you to be quite the colorful character. You enjoy parts of this game that I barely pay attention to. I'm not degrading you for that, I think it's neat.

I've never been an adventurer, I'm a conqueror, but I always liked the adventurers I've met.00

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This is just another "make the game easier" discussion, I personally feel that they made Aby ridiculously easy already, and your suggestion of 100% automatic KIs would make the whole process mindless and way too easy for a Legendary Weapon process.

On killing proc mobs before you can proc them, just use a WHM trust only, no DD trusts. Use TP atmas, no attack atmas, defensive armor sets and level 1-30 weapons. I did this on my WAR, and the mobs never died before I could proc them.

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Oh I know, turn from the boss and wait for TP to build, but to me that's very very mindless. To me, that is the very opposite of fun.

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Some people enjoy Aby Procs. It is like a Puzzle Game, like trying out various keys in a lock to see which fits. I consider the Aby Proc system to be an achievement that SE should be proud of. It is a small but fun challenge, which can be overcome by timing the WS just right, being aware of the mobs TP patterns etc. There is skill involved.

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I don't mind complex systems when there's other stuff going on but in abyssea, in our 119 gear, even without atmas, it's basically like having atma. We hit so much harder and our gear gives enough that's about equal to cruor buffs. Searching for a proc the other night on a zone boss for a friend, I did a 5k Fast Blade.

And please, pretty please, don't suggest that I carry around a set of 99-0 armor, lol^^.

Well what I was going for was not it's not so bad, but more, it's actually stupid easy.

Oh, yes, I could absolutely do for faster adventurer keen senses. I never seem to get them in time, especially when I'm going for blue procs.

This isn't so much a QoL suggestion as more a basic common sense suggestion.

When talking to Temptrix and verifying which NMs you've killed for Aeonic Weapon progression, there's no obvious method of closing the menu. No "Cancel/I'm done" option. The only options are "Show me what I've killed" and "I'd like to give up entirely" The latter of which cancels the quest all together. Even using the ESC key doesn't close the menus. The only way to close the menus is to click on one of the enemies listed under "Show me what I've killed." That is absolute garbage.

I would just like to point out how unbelievably asinine that menu layout is. And what's worse, it caused one of my friends to cancel her weapon because she couldn't find any way to close the menu, even when trying to just ESC out of it. She clicked the only option that seemed to suggest "cancel" which was the "I'd like to give up entirely." Yes there were several warnings asking for confirmation, but the fact that the menu can't be closed with ESC when the majority of menus in this game can, and there was no obvious "cancel/leave" option in the menu, she went the only option that seemed HALFWAY logical.

50k beads and progress already made were thrown away by terrible menu design. I have to say this is the most disappointed I've ever been in the design of this game, and it's due to a damn poorly laid out menu.

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Originally Posted by Leocon

This isn't so much a QoL suggestion as more a basic common sense suggestion.

When talking to Temptrix and verifying which NMs you've killed for Aeonic Weapon progression, there's no obvious method of closing the menu. No "Cancel/I'm done" option. The only options are "Show me what I've killed" and "I'd like to give up entirely" The latter of which cancels the quest all together. Even using the ESC key doesn't close the menus. The only way to close the menus is to click on one of the enemies listed under "Show me what I've killed." That is absolute garbage.

I would just like to point out how unbelievably asinine that menu layout is. And what's worse, it caused one of my friends to cancel her weapon because she couldn't find any way to close the menu, even when trying to just ESC out of it. She clicked the only option that seemed to suggest "cancel" which was the "I'd like to give up entirely." Yes there were several warnings asking for confirmation, but the fact that the menu can't be closed with ESC when the majority of menus in this game can, and there was no obvious "cancel/leave" option in the menu, she went the only option that seemed HALFWAY logical.

50k beads and progress already made were thrown away by terrible menu design. I have to say this is the most disappointed I've ever been in the design of this game, and it's due to a damn poorly laid out menu.

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That is just terrible, I feel so sorry for your friend.

It is ridiculous that they offer a "cancel everything" option at the Trade NPC anyway. There should be a new NPC in Jeuno, next to the "Erase AF Memories" NPC, who you should have to visit and specify that you want to quit your weapon progress.

It is the same problem with Magian Moogles, if you are making an Empy and you are at 1499/1500 HMP, they will throw away 1499 Heavy Metal Plates if you are chatting about weapon progress and hit "cancel this stage."

Yes there is a minor Failsafe security lock "are you sure" but this totally ignores the fact that farming lots of items makes a person very tired, and a lot of people go to trade items and check progress at the end of a run, before bedtime, when they are sleepy.

There should not be a "cancel all progress" option available at the NPC where you trade items for progress. It should be in a separate area where you would only go to if you really wanted to cancel your progress.

The lack of a ESC / back option is just terrible, and this needs to be fixed as a priority. I would also urge SE to remove the "cancel all progress" option from Trade NPCs, and create a new NPC in a completely separate area where you can go to cancel progress on any current Trials.

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Originally Posted by Leocon

This isn't so much a QoL suggestion as more a basic common sense suggestion.

When talking to Temptrix and verifying which NMs you've killed for Aeonic Weapon progression, there's no obvious method of closing the menu. No "Cancel/I'm done" option. The only options are "Show me what I've killed" and "I'd like to give up entirely" The latter of which cancels the quest all together. Even using the ESC key doesn't close the menus. The only way to close the menus is to click on one of the enemies listed under "Show me what I've killed." That is absolute garbage.

I would just like to point out how unbelievably asinine that menu layout is. And what's worse, it caused one of my friends to cancel her weapon because she couldn't find any way to close the menu, even when trying to just ESC out of it. She clicked the only option that seemed to suggest "cancel" which was the "I'd like to give up entirely." Yes there were several warnings asking for confirmation, but the fact that the menu can't be closed with ESC when the majority of menus in this game can, and there was no obvious "cancel/leave" option in the menu, she went the only option that seemed HALFWAY logical.

50k beads and progress already made were thrown away by terrible menu design. I have to say this is the most disappointed I've ever been in the design of this game, and it's due to a damn poorly laid out menu.

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I think I would have crashed my game at that point. That sucks though for your friend, I think the NPC in port jeuno for JSE weapons/119 II/III REMA upgrades is similar. I remember getting a little worried when I couldn't esc out of the convo and I don't think I saw an obvious "I'm done option" until I clicked on looking at weapons or something.

More QoL: Could you make it so that spawning Elite Training Regime Notorious Monsters does not despawn Trusts? I had one nasty surprise finding out this morning...

I know Elite Training is kind of a discarded content, but this suggestion goes there, right next to my previous request to please make it so that the Gladiatorial writ of summmons becomes a permanent Key Item, and most importantly to let players using chocobos while having it.

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Originally Posted by Sicycre

Hello Eradius and fellow adventurers!

We definitely understand the demand for Cipher: August as well as the other ciphers obtainable through Sinister Reign. All of these ciphers have had their stats set to be a fitting reward that matched the difficulty of this content. If we were to ever make adjustments to the content itself making it easier to obtain these ciphers, adjustments to their stats would need to be made to more appropriately match the difficulty. Since this would affect many many adventurers, we do not have any plans to make changes.

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Right.

http://i.imgur.com/1cXuyGR.jpg

Although this would be really late to the party, Salvage II needs to have ammo/ranged as a guaranteed unlock in the starter batch. There are five jobs that don't(or badly) function without those. Or optionally, remove the one-a-day restriction on Arrapago II since it's the only zone that isn't painful to unlock that slot in. And while we're at it, remove the cells from standard Salvage, replacing them with the unlock system in II. Maybe make those socket NMs drop 0-2 cotton purses instead so there's still a reason for them to be there.

There's some long over-due class management that could stand to be examined at, too. A sort option for PUP attachments so you don't have something like "Gonkulator I - Blinking Fluid - Gonkulator III - Gonkulator II - Lesser Whatsit - Blinking Fluid IV" in your list. It's annoying to look at. And for that matter, it should be possible to set PUP attachments and BLU spells in their respective menus even if you're not set as those jobs. Similarly, spell scrolls/dice/plates should be usable on any job as long as you meet the requirement to learn them somewhere else(though frankly, I see little reason not to be able to learn them period whether you can use them or not; it's not as if you couldn't learn a spell and then de-level to the point of not being able to use it at all).

I'm really glad to see the chocobo changes, but if you haven't considered it yet please add a skill level indicator for digging to the crafting skill status entry. I petered out on leveling it probably halfway into the proceedings years ago, so I have only the most vague idea of where I'm at anymore. With the upcoming removal of zone digging pool limits, I'm all for picking it up again.

There are currently a lot of Records of Eminence that reward great amounts of exp even when performed at low level objectives. But, because of the current system, which caps level gain (in one shot) to 1 level + 99% exp to the next level up, a lot of exp goes lost at low level.

To make a practical example, I was on my lv10 Monk doing Fields of Valor earlier. I was at 2000/2600 exp (more or less, did not check), and did not realize how close I was to completing the Record of Eminence "Vanquish Multiple Enemies", whose reward is 5000 exp total.

What happened was that I completed the record of Eminence and my Training Regime at the same time. The monster itself gave me 160 exp. The Regime gave me 350 exp. The RoE gave me 5000 exp. I found myself at lv11 with 2799/2800 exp.

But, doing the math (160+350+5000), I should have gained a total of 5510 exp... whereas instead, I got only 600 exp (to hit lv11) + 2799 exp ... that totals to 3399 exp.

Which means I missed 2111 experience points.

Sure, it's not that bad. Exp comes in bucketfuls these days. But I feel it's a pretty clumsy system to have this cap after all these years, when such big amounts of exp are rolling in. Would it not be the time to change this to accomodate the new EXP rates?

Can Mog Locker and Mog Storage be opened up to Nomad Moogles?

Conquest needs some form of overhaul. Here on Siren, beastmen are ruling over most of regions every week, and even when I put full efforts on trying to conquest a specific region by myself, my influence doesn't seem to ever suffice.

Something that could perhaps help it would be to allow us to do Expeditionary Forces with Trusts.

Also, maybe increase the number of conquest tally points equipment and evoliths traded to outpost merchans are worth? In general, it should be made easier for small quantities of players to help the nation take control of a region.

I would like to see the Play Online Viewer pop up with the virtual keyboard of numbers when using a controller to type in the Security Token field, like it did for the PS2/Xbox 360. I don't want to have to reach from my keyboard just to put in the numbers to login when using the controller.

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Originally Posted by OmnysValefor

Can Mog Locker and Mog Storage be opened up to Nomad Moogles?

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~To my knowledge they already are but locker you have to set it open to those moogles in aht urhgan whitegate by an npc next to the mh that gives you an time extention for your mog locker into being accessible.

Nope, but I did double check.

Locker is available either only in ToAU or every mog house (as I've always had mine set). There's no way to open it to nomad moogles.

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Originally Posted by OmnysValefor

Nope, but I did double check.

Locker is available either only in ToAU or every mog house (as I've always had mine set). There's no way to open it to nomad moogles.

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Huh... works for me.

http://catmato.com/img/ffxi/locker.png