100% PDT for PET is plain BS.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Nope, but I'm sure players want it only for themselves. I've literally seen a bunny tank the living fu- out of every iron giant.

It was amazing. Even Iron Giants can't stand up to XI's bunnies.

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A white killer bunny to be precise. Only difference is its on our side.

If SE is going to clamp down on PDT (thanks for adding that pet: -3%pdt backpiece btw) then they could focus more on giving BST more pet evasion. Also a thf type Puk jug would be nice with Z.Mantle.

The nerf will probably only end up like the SMN nerf at the start of the year. Nothing is really going to change except pets will always be able to take at least 1dmg. In some cases it will be worse with some BSTs replacing DD atmas to PDT again to compensate for the loss. Resulting in even slower solo fights.

If it's too severe then expect to see more bandwagon nins and thfs showing up very soon.

One definite result of this though will be the increased consumption of jugs and pet food meaning higher costs and less inventory space. SE better consider increasing the stack sizes of jugs/petfood like people want if they are pulling this on them. And make that dawn mulsum stackable too.

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Originally Posted by Novati

[..] Nothing is really going to change except pets will always be able to take at least 1dmg. In some cases it will be worse with some BSTs replacing DD atmas to PDT again to compensate for the loss. Resulting in even slower solo fights.

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Quite the opposite is the case. If they cap PDT reduction at 80% for example, you won't have to use that extra Atma to get that high. So either you turn that into a DD Atma, in the hopes you kill faster, or you change that one into a Regen Atma, which doesn't change DD capabilities at all. Either way, it shouldn't make the fights last longer.

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Originally Posted by Futan

I can see it now after next week's update in the patch notes:



If they're taking PDT away they should at least give them back Charm. Let them have something.

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I hated our days of relying on charm and if we go back to those I'm never using bst again. If I wanted disposable I'd have leveled smn instead. Claim loss crap people used to grief and having to throw dozens of weak mobs at something to win {No thanks.}

I can only pray SE doesn't go to far and gives us something close to the 66%~75% range because people thinking 50% is a one size fits all understand nothing. I'm not going to elaborate because it completely falls on deaf ears. If it goes down to 50%, our strategies and gear will change and we'll kill the same things slower. And my static will stop letting me bst and we'll have to get lucky on proc ing fast+kill cactaur before fanatics wears.

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Originally Posted by Novati

If SE is going to clamp down on PDT (thanks for adding that pet: -3%pdt backpiece btw) then they could focus more on giving BST more pet evasion. Also a thf type Puk jug would be nice with Z.Mantle.

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Shadows would make it the new standard and we'd never touch -pdt again. For all the crying your average DD has more damage mitigation than any pet, even at the unrealistic 100% marke a DD can totally negate a single target nuke and be healed far more rapidly then a pet which is why pet food cures are big (not to mention expensive).

Two Blus can pretty much stun/Reaving Wind lock the cactuar into a lump of clay. Also Migawari.

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

Two Blus can pretty much stun/Reaving Wind lock the cactuar into a lump of clay. Also Migawari.

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That great if you have 2 blu's. I don't. I DO have a bst, and it was getting used. I hope the few people willing to let me bst are still willing after this. And I hear migawari is short not that I have that either. We made use of what we have.

You can fulltime Migawari if you get Haste buffs. The only issue is the fact that it wears once it's consumed, but you can just stop TP feed if you use up Migawari and the timer's not back yet.

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

You can fulltime Migawari if you get Haste buffs. The only issue is the fact that it wears once it's consumed, but you can just stop TP feed if you use up Migawari and the timer's not back yet.

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So people complaining about it are doinitwrong. Good to know, I have levelin nin in my to-do list but its only lv50 from pre abyssea days right now (haven't touched it in 3 years, got busy with rdm instead) so I have a lot to learn.

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Originally Posted by Xilk

abyssite of lenity, atma of the apocalypse, twilight mail + helm and the exp/kill ratio increase. Sorry, there is no meaningful exp penalty for death.

Keep grasping at straws. You are deliberately IGNORING the real reasons and details that matter.

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Good try. I almost believed you were honest, but you and Leon are stuck in 2004. You have such a bias against it that you don't examine any details.

Argument to nerf bst: I hate bst cuz they shouldn't be able to do anything that doesn't make them conform to how I think the game should be played.

Argument not to nerf it: Its not broken. Don't submit to noisy haters.

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Who's ignoring things? Lol @ saying everyone's argument is: "I hate BST so much! It suxzors! LolBST." Who's grasping at straws again? Sorry, no, go back and re-read things. I was calling for people to exploit BST's pdt -100%.

Just because it isn't being exploited/used doesn't mean it's not broken.

You have such a bias for it that you don't examine any details.

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Evasion caps and mob TP moves can easily have higher innate ACC. That's a problem even Yuly would face, but THFs or NINs can't exactly pull 1000+ cures out of their butt for sustained durations and even DNC's option comes at a price. If they die, that's it. There's no running around until timer's ready or just popping a new jug and Snarling away your enmity. The concept of disposable pets has always been problematic in this manner, even as far back as Carby kiting. With no true penalty toward the master for a pet death, you eventually get scenarios like this popping up since they gain more freedom to screw around and find things that work. Of course, even if BSTs lost some EXP each time they let a pet die, it doesn't solve this particular issue.

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You make it sound like Yuly doesn't run at 80k a stack and pet food is free.

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Your SMN don't ahve anymore -100% PDT, are you still able play the job and kill NM? I am sure the answer is yes, then there no real argument to not nerf BST job.

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SMN have exactly the same thing with the right atmas. At least get your facts straight before you whine.

By the way, I can take 0 damage on my BLM and completely monopolize quite a few EXP camps. Let's nerf that too. While we're at it lets nerf MNK damage and Charged Whisker for BLU. It makes my e-peen feel quite small indeed.

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If you're a DNC or something that can hold stuff, pull two or 3 NMs to him (like Iratham or something that doesn't go away easily) and MPK him.

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Evasion tanks too, time for a nerf.

Oh yeah, and apart from the fact that it further screwed our Empy WS, the recent crit. rate increase REALLY helped BST a lot.:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by blowfin

You make it sound like Yuly doesn't run at 80k a stack and pet food is free.

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They also leave out that it has longer recast that cure. It ain't like I can spam it.