Haste and You... A guide to the misinformed.

I wish there was a way to block a player.. naturebeckles brings absolutely nothing to the discussion of haste.

Are these forums even moderated?

Naturebeckles, why does it even bother you that people were discussing exactly how the haste maths works? Why did you even start reading this thread? Seeing as you don't believe in haste anyway?

You brought this on yourself by posting in this thread when you had nothing to contribute to the ongoing discussion, all you did was say "well this is pointless duh!"

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Originally Posted by Naturebeckles

Uh no no no no no. I was NOT insulting ANYBODY for using haste. I saw the whole discussion about the all the specifics of the math of how haste works as kind of pointless. I'm not saying Frost's guide was pointless. But there were pages of people agreeing/disagreeing about how that math worked. I never said haste was bad or criticized anyone for using haste gear. Not once will you see me say any of that. It's taking everything I have right now to not insult you over your reading skills.

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But you did just insult me. Just like you insulted all of the "haste whores" out there in you initial post. It's fine keep it coming, the more you speak the dumber you sound.

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Originally Posted by Vivik

But you did just insult me. Just like you insulted all of the "haste whores" out there in you initial post. It's fine keep it coming, the more you speak the dumber you sound.

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Whatever Vivik. You're just another troll's troll.

No, he's just correct.

I'm going to go with Vivik being correct as well.

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Originally Posted by cidbahamut

No, he's just correct.

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This. 100% this.

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Originally Posted by Naturebeckles

Uh no no no no no. I was NOT insulting ANYBODY for using haste. I saw the whole discussion about the all the specifics of the math of how haste works as kind of pointless. I'm not saying Frost's guide was pointless. But there were pages of people agreeing/disagreeing about how that math worked. I never said haste was bad or criticized anyone for using haste gear. Not once will you see me say any of that. It's taking everything I have right now to not insult you over your reading skills.

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I am wondering, are you a bit new with talking to people on fourm? there are people here that have spliced how the game works and back track to give exact fomrulas, so there are some math nerds here like my self that are very picky how mcuh statments are worded to be correct to the letter ( or should i say to the decimal?)

like how i posted this comment:

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Originally Posted by Rambus

keep this in mind when you say you have a 400% or 500% ( i'm a bit lost in why the comment but i want to point this fact out to make sure it should be one or the other)

when you say 100% increase it means your total is oringal amount times 2 for outcome , like wise 400% means orginal vaule times 5.

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Originally Posted by Naturebeckles

Whatever Vivik. You're just another troll's troll.

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It's trolling to point out where you are wrong? You overreacted and acted like an ass in your first post and expected to not take any crap for it. You've been called out on your hypocritical behavior and the best thing you can come up with is "you're a troll"? Please...

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Originally Posted by Rambus

I am wondering, are you a bit new with talking to people on fourm? there are people here that have spliced how the game works and back track to give exact fomrulas, so there are some math nerds here like my self that are very picky how mcuh statments are worded to be correct to the letter ( or should i say to the decimal?)

like how i posted this comment:

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Well, yes I am actually. I have no problem whatsoever with the Math. I'm not going to sit here and actually argue Math or game mechanics. I know there are people like you and Frost who are way smarter than me with that stuff.

But, as I will always maintain - gear choice is mainly done over the opinion each person has about what gear is best for them based on how they play, what they're goals are, whether they care about outperforming other players or not, and etc. Even their race makes a different. An Elvaan BLM will need to stack more INT than other races because their natural base INT is lower than other races. That's just an example. Thought I do appreciate Frost's original post and subsequent replies, especially to me... being from a teaching standpoint and not just telling me I'm a "bad player" for not gear swapping and having a heavy haste/tp setup, I may not change the way I play. Simply because I've never really cared about other players outperforming me. At the end of the day, the mobs still die, battles and missions are still won, and even if I'm just an "average" player, I'm ok with that. Maybe getting offended easily over being called a "bad player" was my downfall last night. However, i'm sure I'm not the only person in the world who would take offense to being called a bad player as being a fact based solely on gear choices.