Petition: clickandbuy the only way no,thanks.

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Originally Posted by Halldir

a) Make Crysta in the amounts required for monthly subscription, instead of their pre-defined amounts. And make it available for all countries.

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They say that: "Square Enix Crysta will become available in more countries as they are legally approved."
So it is probably not something they can just 'do', and if they could, I think it would be available everywhere, and anywhere already.

I would rather not have to deal with this Crysta nonsense at all, personally, and hope that things will get better, and soon.

Click&Buy got me a text message from American Express about possible fraud that I have NEVER seen in the 7 years I've been an AmEx user back when I was signing up to try FFXIV, which ended quickly. The transfer to this made me change my 2 POL accounts to Crysta and promptly deactivate them as I'm too lazy and quite frankly uninterested in remembering to pump Crysta into my account via PayPal. Unless SE decides to implement a proper way to continue to use either my debit card or any other card (support more than VISA and MasterCard, please!) I'm going to go back into retirement until 99 cap or later.

I just dont see the logic in forceing this change on ppl when we been paying directly for so long it makes no sence, If they came out and said this wus to weed out PS2 users to give next gen and PC users better content for there money id have no issues with paying the fee's but sadly many ppl dont have the option to even use crysta in there regions as it is and with all the thread in this post without even a single response from any Dev at all i think they will keep supporting this new service to the bitter end

For those waiting for an official response: It takes time, as it is a big change, and they surely expected a lot of disgruntled customers to voice their opinions. They have to read it all, and put together answers that would satisfy as many questions as possible while catering as many customer's needs as possible at the same time.

They unfortunately do not have the time to answer to each individual question, as far as I can imagine.

It's still early, patience is a virtue, some say...
We will have some answers, eventually.

While waiting, voice your concerns as well as you can, and it will make their job easier. ^^

Funny thing is that I made a Click and Buy account for FFXIV. I forgot my password so even if I wanted to (and I don't) I can't even switch it over. Good luck trying to charge my debit card C&B. It's expired and i'm not giving you my # so kiss my ass.

Thank you for the good times, FFXI. Thank you for the frustration with your services and ideals, SE.

I will not go through a third party system to play this game. I have stuck with it faithfully these many many years, even after I've been honest-to-god bored to death with it, because I was holding hope that it would pick up to the point it once was to me. Apparently, I'm never going to SEE that point again, because I REFUSE to deal with a third-party company, when you already obviously have the means to take care of the billing yourselves. I especially will not deal with a third-party company known for having such a horrible reputation. And your Crysta system is fine, for those who want stuff from outside the game. It's not an adequate system for those just wanting to play the game. Don't make us deal with a lame excuse of a currency system, just so you can squeeze the extra dollars from us by never using an amount that equals out to what we're paying.

Not the way I thought my time with this game would end, but there it is I guess. So be it.

From a french user.

Looks like it will be soon my last day on this game. Never had to complain loudly about SE choice but this one looks like the weirdest choice to implement a change in the way of managing payment method. Looks like SE cant afford in term of time and money the implementation of a transparent PCI/DSS compliant payment management for their customers. Looks like an irrational decision where SE prefers to loose customers than a class action if credit card information are stolen.

If no change in your strategy, I'll quit due to the fact that I will not pay through your crappy payment methods, I don't want to register to another 3rd party company and I don't want to manually buy credits to play FFXI.

Honestly, the REAL funny thing about all of this is that a TON of people that play FFXI don't even read these forums (or any FFXI-related forums for that matter). I'm sure these players aren't even thinking about transferring/registering their accounts atm.

I am also 100% sure that SE WILL lose out on a hefty amount of subscriptions due to the simple fact that most people won't even think to transfer their accounts by the time August 31st hits. When they realize they can't play FFXI anymore, they'll have to contend with some boggled-up system of getting their payment method back on track (What exactly was wrong with the system before?). Most will either give up or not even bother with it.

Honestly, this seems more like a purge than anything else lol A purge of a loyal player-base that, as it stands, will prove to be a grave mistake by SE.

It is quite a sad moment as I see many people 'seemingly' registering here, or posting for the first time, just for this.

It should not be like this!

I know that a lot of these users will not quit, or will be back eventually, but for the time being things are looking quite grim indeed!

I think during tomorrow, or the day after, a lot of our questions will be answered.
If nothing else, it is quite hard to depict what will come of this for the time being, for once.

I am interested to see it, though, while 'Distant Worlds' by 'The Black Mages' plays on~


I just started every line with an I, didn't I.


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Originally Posted by Creelo

Honestly, the REAL funny thing about all of this is that a TON of people that play FFXI don't even read these forums (or any FFXI-related forums for that matter). I'm sure these players aren't even thinking about transferring/registering their accounts atm.

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I can confirm that most of the players in-game I know, and have conversed with recently, had no idea of this, and every-one-of-them had quitting as the first option in their mind.

I know some, or even most of them probably will not quit in the end, but yes, there are so many players who have no idea about this, sadly.

It is rather amazing if SqEX did not realise how big of an impact this kind of a change would have, but it is starting to seem like it.

I keep on reading from ppl saying "just use crysta, we are not forced to use click&bye". But thats the problem, there isn't any trouble-free method of auto-payment directly to SE.

I want direct auto-payment where I give SE my CC info and they will take care of the rest, enough said. I don't wanna go thru buying and transferring crysta every months nor managing another payment company such as clickandbye with my CC info.

This is extremely stupid.