Wildskeeper Reive Feedback

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Originally Posted by Alexandero

Here is my feedback Square Enix as a tank. For the last three Wildskeeper Reives I have tanked the NM for 2+ hours straight. I don't get to afk, I don't get to watch Youtube videos or anything else. For two or more hours I am constantly trying to stay alive and keep the NM off of the rest of the group. I have been doing this as RUN not PLD. The best drop I got after a cumulative 7+ straight hours of nonstop tanking was from Hurkan. That drop was a Handful of Iron Sand. Guess who isn't tanking another WKR? Way to go Square. I'm not expecting a great drop everytime but if tanks are going in here and putting 2+ hours in tanking these things I think they deserve more than a piece of vendor trash. Or keep it like it is, we don't have to go anyway. For the posts above mine, this is why you can't get anyone to go. You are going to be hard pressed to find a tank that is willing to come in there and bust their butt for hours on end only to walk out of there when it's over with Iron Sand and needing to cap xp again.

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For what it's worth, I tank all of them on mnk/run with my whm mule so I imagine that anyone who can scrape together a couple of friends should be able to do the same. I die occasionally and some other DD has to try to stay alive for a few minutes, but it's rarely a big deal. I don't think many people realize that you can just throw DDs at these things. The biggest issues I run into are it takes too long and mages who want to go nuke crazy and then kite it through all the healers and weakened people.

WHM and RUN take dramatically reduced damage from SP due to native MDB, melee's don't. Due to how MAB/MDB work, having a 20+ native boost makes a huge difference in the final damage taken. When I fought hurkan as a 99BLU with typical 119 gear and no Shell / Enhanced Barthunder (WHM's gives MDB) it did about 4000 damage, Hurkan has some insane MAB. On RUN though it barely scratch's me, the paralyze effect is worse then the damage. This is why melee's are completely useless on it, they simply die too quickly to be useful.

Assuming Hurkan does 4000 damage because he has +300 MAB and is doing a 1k damage attack to you while you have +0 MDB:
1000*((100+300)/100) = 4000 damage

Now assuming you have 22 MDB because you're on level 99 RUN, you should take:
1000*((100+300)/(100+22)) = 3278 damage


So no, the dramatic reduction you observe is not due to MDB.

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Originally Posted by bloodbeat

Yumcax mustve been designed by a sadist, because there's nothing good to be said about it. The arena, mobs, tp moveset, all of it is terrible.
You know your content is bad when even a hobby-AFKer loses patience waiting for the end.

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yeah Yumcax is the worst -.-

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Originally Posted by saevel

WHM and RUN take dramatically reduced damage from SP due to native MDB, melee's don't. Due to how MAB/MDB work, having a 20+ native boost makes a huge difference in the final damage taken. When I fought hurkan as a 99BLU with typical 119 gear and no Shell / Enhanced Barthunder (WHM's gives MDB) it did about 4000 damage, Hurkan has some insane MAB. On RUN though it barely scratch's me, the paralyze effect is worse then the damage. This is why melee's are completely useless on it, they simply die too quickly to be useful.

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I tank it on mnk/run with my whm mule. DDs aren't completely useless, they just need some support.

I know that a lot of people probably wouldn't be able to pull it off, but the other day I was able to beat Hurkan by myself. The only 'assistance' I had was from Ulmia, Joachim, and Cherukiki tossing the occasional buff at me, but all the damage came from me. I was DNC/RUN. Kept Barthunder and two Tellus up, and whenever he used Crashing Thunder to activate his aura, I would do Rudra's Storm -> Reverse Flourish -> Rudra's Storm (Darkness), and then used Swipe or Lunge. This would do enough earth damage to break his aura and get the !!s. Below 25% it becomes very important to break the aura as soon as it appears, as Static Prison is an at-will from that point, but without the aura the damage it does is mitigated. Took me about 90 minutes to crush that bird. Not something I'd want to repeat often, but it just goes to show that there are ways to deal with WKRs in ways that people might not have thought of or tried.

Id like to suggest and it may have been tossed out there already, but I will suggest it again then ^^...

New WKR "Style" Fights. Toss Kefka at us, or the Witches like Ultameicia, Roll over us with OZMA, hehe ... I like WKR fights and I love all the old Final Fantasies. I think it would be fun to have some more WKR fights tossed into the game. I dont think they all need to have a story behind them sometimes its fun to just gang up on an old baddie.

;)

I have a "solution" that could overhaul the activity present in WKR's:

Make the "aged box" of HP Bayld a far more common drop. If people going in and contributing well can get 5-15 of an item presently selling on my server for 30k/each, they'll go and focus on what they're doing. As well, the bayld market is somewhat being held up by reive botters and this would bring the bayld production back into the hands of legitimate players. Also, Ergon weapons are at about twice the cost of Mythics, so it might help lower the overall cost there, too.

For my feed back, I'd personally like to see the Delve Boss Items return and stay as drops from the WKR. I have still yet to get an actually win from Delve and I'd like some other chance to get the items I need for reforge without have to shell out hand over fist
for everything. I'd rather farm my items if at all possible.

Bring back the WKR campaign.. there's a very low supply of high purity bayld going around.