The official Dark Knight adjustment and suggestion topic.

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Originally Posted by Dart

as for a magic buff, i'm worried that if we ask for it, thats all we'll get and not a ws buff which we need much much much much much more.

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I disagree. I believe it's useful magic we need more of.

Our WS are decent. We just lack a WS that takes full advantage of Razed Ruins. Torcleaver is great in and out of Abyssea and Quietus is good outside abyssea.

Besides, with these updates, there's a good chance we're now the strongest in raw DD power if Souleater actually is good enough to full-time rather than wait on it. If we do that and also get a buffed out WS, we'd basically overrun every other DD around and then we'd either get nerfed or they get buffed to a point where we're useless again.

I would not be opposed to a new, strong WS. I would welcome it with open arms. I just feel we need some changes to something that makes us different from other jobs: New magic exclusive for us.

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Originally Posted by Kagato

I disagree. I believe it's useful magic we need more of.

Our WS are decent. We just lack a WS that takes full advantage of Razed Ruins. Torcleaver is great in and out of Abyssea and Quietus is good outside abyssea.

Besides, with these updates, there's a good chance we're now the strongest in raw DD power if Souleater actually is good enough to full-time rather than wait on it. If we do that and also get a buffed out WS, we'd basically overrun every other DD around and then we'd either get nerfed or they get buffed to a point where we're useless again.

I would not be opposed to a new, strong WS. I would welcome it with open arms. I just feel we need some changes to something that makes us different from other jobs: New magic exclusive for us.

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Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that our magic doesn't need to be revamped, however I know how stingy SE can be with job adjustments. I see us only getting a couple more at best (if even that much). To me drk always has been a dd job, so naturally I want them to buff what I believe to be our main aspect, raw damage. To compete we still need a buff to our current WS or give us a new one at 99. Even going along the empy route, compare torcleaver to Ukko's. Its not even a contest.

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Originally Posted by Dart

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that our magic doesn't need to be revamped, however I know how stingy SE can be with job adjustments. I see us only getting a couple more at best (if even that much). To me drk always has been a dd job, so naturally I want them to buff what I believe to be our main aspect, raw damage. To compete we still need a buff to our current WS or give us a new one at 99. Even going along the empy route, compare torcleaver to Ukko's. Its not even a contest.

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because it was hard to cap attack and because the war had RR

DRK will easily cap attack now and wars wont have RR in the new dyna

oh and DRK WS rate just got huge ~

war can cap crit rate outside abyssea fairly easily. Actually its insanely easy right now.

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Originally Posted by Dart

war can cap crit rate outside abyssea fairly easily. Actually its insanely easy right now.

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Id love to know how because DEx crit caps at 20% merits at 4

they dont get 75% crit rate from anything i know about.........................................................................................

weaponskills get a base of 20% + and the new VIT making crits do less damage will nerf the crits they get even more..

The minimum critical hit rate from DEX vs. AGI is 5%, the maximum is 20%. Equipment and merits that increase critical hit rate are added on top of this.

More of my understanding is that crit rate caps out when your dex is 50 points higher than the mobs agi. Its a hard check etc.

This has always been my understanding, back since my days of fine tunning gear to maintain capped crit rate on war.

Add in more merits to crit with the incoming patch to push crit rate a little higher.

This is what I was referring too and I'm not including crit plus gear available now from af3+2 and other items.

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Originally Posted by Dart

The minimum critical hit rate from DEX vs. AGI is 5%, the maximum is 20%. Equipment and merits that increase critical hit rate are added on top of this.

More of my understanding is that crit rate caps out when your dex is 50 points higher than the mobs agi. Its a hard check etc.

This has always been my understanding, back since my days of fine tunning gear to maintain capped crit rate on war.

Add in more merits to crit with the incoming patch to push crit rate a little higher.

This is what I was referring too and I'm not including crit plus gear available now from af3+2 and other items.

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capped Critical hit rate is 99% and can only be reached in abyssea.... i know everything you just restated that i said already........................................

nothing you said DRK doesnt get

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Originally Posted by Jar

capped Critical hit rate is 99% and can only be reached in abyssea.... i know everything you just restated that i said already........................................

nothing you said DRK doesnt get

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its unknown and speculated to be 95-99%. You're just trying to pick a fight. You full well knew the point i was trying to make and blatantly ignored what I'm talking about.

Drk ws cannot compete with the mainstream jobs in the ws department. It needs a pretty serious buff.

Troll someplace else please.

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Originally Posted by Dart

Troll someplace else please.

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You ask for the impossible, sir! Wait, I feel like I have de ja vu.

sorry kagato i don't want to shit up your thread, but talking capped crit rate outside abyssea. I've never had anyone bring up 95%!!!! They always knew that I was talking about getting 50 dex over mob agi. I just don't get it... Maybe its me, ijdk