Raise the minimum allowable job level in Abyssea from 30 to 70+

Why not just let everyone start out at level 70-75 since no one wants to experience the fellowship, exploration, quests, and just satisfaction of gaining a level and being proud of it anymore?

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Originally Posted by Ramsos

Troll post

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moving on and ignoring the troll.......

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Originally Posted by Odintius

I say let the main leader in alliance have the option to set rules for exp level limit. Then another rule if your not engage on cause any damage on a mob in like 2minute time frame you dont gain exp.

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That would cause many problems...one of which being the fact that whm and just about any support class would get 0 exp thus screwing them out of it. to bend a tad i would say as i have said before...incur a 85-90% exp penalty for those who are below 70. or just raise the cap to 70 period.

I don't think Krystal has realised that he is in a very small minority. I've seen almost no one post in support of him. I hope he really takes a step back and looks at his posts and his opinions and realises that he is trying to force his own viewpoint on a majority who do not want it.

Read to post above you and was just opinion

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Originally Posted by Chrianna

Why not just let everyone start out at level 70-75 since no one wants to experience the fellowship, exploration, quests, and just satisfaction of gaining a level and being proud of it anymore?

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you just opened yourself up for flaming...>.< i agree with you completely.....but the trolls are going to be on you like white on rice now. i myself miss these kind of thing. which is why i am trying to make sure SE sees these threads..so people WILL do that kind of thing again....:)

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Originally Posted by Krystal

moving on and ignoring the troll.......

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how is that ignoring the post?

also lol
http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/103...Edition/page19

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Originally Posted by Chrianna

Why not just let everyone start out at level 70-75 since no one wants to experience the fellowship, exploration, quests, and just satisfaction of gaining a level and being proud of it anymore?

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When did doing quests/missions/exploring require you to be X level to enjoy them?

Edit: Not counting for those that had min level requirements obviously.

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Originally Posted by HFX7686

I don't think Krystal has realised that he is in a very small minority. I've seen almost no one post in support of him. I hope he really takes a step back and looks at his posts and his opinions and realises that he is trying to force his own viewpoint on a majority who do not want it.

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oh gee..i wonder why? maybe because users like you have flamed them so damned much they went"oh hell! i'm not gonna take this bulcrap for simply wanting to raise the cap...." you won't get rid of me so easily however.....-_-

Since when was being level 75 an accomplishment?

And I'm saying this having had multiple 75s since before most people here started playing.

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Originally Posted by Krystal

oh gee..i wonder why? maybe because users like you have flamed them so damned much they went"oh hell! i'm not gonna take this bulcrap for simply wanting to raise the cap...." you won't get rid of me so easily however.....-_-

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I've only really seen flaming from you.

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Originally Posted by Krystal

oh gee..i wonder why? maybe because users like you have flamed them so damned much they went"oh hell! i'm not gonna take this bulcrap for simply wanting to raise the cap...." you won't get rid of me so easily however.....-_-

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All this complaining about the game, have you considered just quitting krystal?

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Originally Posted by Krystal

oh gee..i wonder why? maybe because users like you have flamed them so damned much they went"oh hell! i'm not gonna take this bulcrap for simply wanting to raise the cap...." you won't get rid of me so easily however.....-_-

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or you know its because no one agrees with you.

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Originally Posted by Zagen

Is it bragging when my LS or friends say they need a BLM for yellow !! and I say I have 90 BLM because I burned it in Abyssea over 3 days? How about my MNK that I burned from 42-90 so that my LS and friends would have another tanking option and a solo option for myself? How about my WAR I burned from 35-90 and then skilled all weapons needed for Red !!s so that was another option available? I play those jobs better than a large amount of people I've partied with that were on them and I'm even better geared on them usually. Was that luck on my part since I didn't learn how to play them by leveling outside Abyssea?

I burn jobs because its helpful to myself and/or others. I'm ok with Abyssea burning because I don't see a difference between a level 30+ "key master" and a level 75+ "key master" as I know in a good group it is a full time job and you don't need to be 75+ to know how to do it. I also don't see the difference between a level 30+ newb and a 75+ newb, I take the time to read up/ask questions on a given job so I know how to play it decently, neither of these are done through partying outside of Abyssea.

Also LOL at thinking getting a job to cap gives you bragging rights. Unless you mean offering a job to help a group is bragging about it. Beating Maat on RDM would give you some bragging rights assuming its your first job.

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no..i beat the scholar level 70 cap as my FIRST level cap. and that 70 cap is the hardest in the game for your first 70 cap quest. people can debate all they want that rdm is..but i disagree. having done the rdm cap myself on a previous character.

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Originally Posted by Krystal

no..i beat the scholar level 70 cap as my FIRST level cap. and that 70 cap is the hardest in the game for your first 70 cap quest. people can debate all they want that rdm is..but i disagree. having done the rdm cap myself on a previous character.

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You didn't have a level 75 before SCH came out? Then you are very new player yourself and probably don't understand the torture leveling used to be.

I am starting to see where his posts are coming from...

@Krystal: So really you're just mad that you can't brag about meaningless crap any more? I'd have revoked your bragging rights for being 90 or beating Genkais whether Abyssea existed or not.

This is simple, you don't like leechers in abyssea?, or you dont like leveling in abyssea because its too easy? Then form up a group and go level in the old areas the old fashion way. Nobody is stopping you from doing so. I got 3 jobs to 75 old style. I'm not saying that I didn't like because I did, but I like the Abyssea way better. The majority loves Abyssea the way it is.

Hang in there Krystal. I know you speak the truth and from your heart. That's part of way you play the game. Like I said, two different game philosophies and we will have to agree to disagree on this. I'll play whatever comes down. I love the game and the people and will continue to help those that I can within the community.

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

@Krystal: So really you're just mad that you can't brag about meaningless crap any more? I'd have revoked your bragging rights for being 90 or beating Genkais whether Abyssea existed or not.

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i was gonna say this all bragging rights were taken away which is only difference

I think Krystal wrote the Brady guide on FFXI and is finally releasing all the butthurt from realizing the book and her way of doing things are old fashioned and useless, leaving her behind to lfp for hours while mumbling under her breath about those damned lazy players.

The only logical explanation to me is that she liked the slow grind that was forming parties and exp chaining, and somehow believes there is a masochistic minority that agrees with her (and are too shy to publicly agree with her). The 'majority', like myself, find our fun in FFXI by doing other things like getting AF3, empyreans, and hitting/nuking/healing/supporting for massive numbers and taking down NM's.

If not, guess she just wants to watch the world burn...

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Originally Posted by Krystal

no..i beat the scholar level 70 cap as my FIRST level cap. and that 70 cap is the hardest in the game for your first 70 cap quest. people can debate all they want that rdm is..but i disagree. having done the rdm cap myself on a previous character.

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SCH fight was annoying not hard (I know it was my first job to 75 on Zagen)

It doesn't compare to a Maat that just refuses to be slept or silenced during Chainspell with capped skill, and some of the best available gear borrowed or owned. Or Asuran Fists. But then again I did that fight years ago back when EXPing in Sky was the place to be lol

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no..i beat the scholar level 70 cap as my FIRST level cap. and that 70 cap is the hardest in the game for your first 70 cap quest. people can debate all they want that rdm is..but i disagree. having done the rdm cap myself on a previous character.

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I haven't tried RDM maat yet since the implementation of composure, but I know origionally it was the hardest fight to do because if sleep didn't stick you died.. Looking forward to doing it again though..

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Originally Posted by Krystal

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Please try.

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Originally Posted by Krystal

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Oh my god please do.

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Originally Posted by Krystal

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Please announce when you are going to try this, I want popcorn ready.

and i laugh my ass off at your pathetic attempts to flame me off the forums. if you think little insults are enough to piss me off to the point of leaving....

Highlight this>>>Keep posting.......XD<<<

moving on topic....something needs to be done about abyssea..case and point.

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Originally Posted by Krystal

moving on topic....something needs to be done about abyssea..case and point.

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No it doesn't, SE made it that way for a reason. Shut the fuck up.

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Originally Posted by Krystal

and i laugh my ass off at your pathetic attempts to flame me off the forums. if you think little insults are enough to piss me off to the point of leaving....

Highlight this>>>Keep posting.......XD<<<

moving on topic....something needs to be done about abyssea..case and point.

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Case in point is only applicable when you attempt to prove your entire argument is valid using a single example. That is the case, in a single point.

E.g.: "All apples are tasty. Case in point: This tasty apple."

How is this going for 80+ pages? I didn't know gaining experience points was such a huge deal. I see getting a 90 job is a step towards a greater means. Maybe it's something they want to accomplish as a goal -- which can be one of many. I'm sure if it was one of many goals, they don't want to spend weeks of it accomplishing it. Maybe the goal of leveling a job to 90 can help their group of friends to kill more efficiently. I'm not here to list all the possible goals a person has, and I'm not sure why people would want to govern the method of how other players level their jobs. SE knows their player base has dropped -- evident from the first server merge -- soon to be two server merges. It's not because of Abyssea since the first merge was before its release. It's because people have met their goals, or they no longer find the game entertaining, or they have long decided to quit before the date and have decided to move on. SE released Abyssea's experience method for a reason. How you interpret it is yours. For me, I think they are prepping for the end of Vana. I've been playing for 8years and I'll stay until the end despite all my friends have quit 5years ago. I made new ones.

I'm incredibly relieved SE released Abyssea and its experience points method. I don't have the pressure of trying to get my jobs up to 90 to accomplish my goal of accumulating my AF3+2s. It's actually made the game fun. I have never once found the old method of exping as fun. I thought it was more of a hindrance. If it takes you 3weeks+ of getting your jobs from 30-75 to learn a job there's something incredibly wrong. I'm greatful SE has made a lot of the old content easier. Newer players would have a chance I never did.

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Originally Posted by Krystal

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This will be brilliant. I look forward to it.

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You should start to post over there.

I think it's about time this thread got locked tbh. it's served it's purpose. the only people posting now are just outright trying to flame people...which is immature. I myself admit to flaming a few but only in retort.

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Originally Posted by Gunit

You should start to post over there.

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you wish..lol that entire forum is trollish

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Originally Posted by Krystal

you wish..lol that entire forum is trollish

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You should fit right in then.

I agree that it should be locked.

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Originally Posted by Krystal

I think it's about time this thread got locked tbh. it's served it's purpose. the only people posting now are just outright trying to flame people...which is immature. I myself admit to flaming a few but only in retort.

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So you openly threaten to launch a cyber-attack on a community website and then ask that the thread be locked because people are flaming you?

Win.

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Originally Posted by Krystal

you wish..lol that entire forum is trollish

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http://www.motifake.com/image/demoti...1260739585.jpg

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Originally Posted by Krystal

I think it's about time this thread got locked tbh. it's served it's purpose. the only people posting now are just outright trying to flame people...which is immature. I myself admit to flaming a few but only in retort.

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Well lets get back on topic what are the reasons to raise the level cap to enter abyssea?

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

So you openly threaten to launch a cyber-attack on a community website and then ask that the thread be locked because people are flaming you?

Win.

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no...i am asking it to be locked. because this thread is long overdue derailed.

A low level abyssea would be cool. One specifically designed for lvl 10-30.

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Originally Posted by Gunit

Beating a dead horse

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i've already stated my reasons. i'm just tired of immature trolls flaming everyone every five seconds.