Let me clarify, TH3 or any TH does not affect dynamis. A subjob other then /dnc DOES affect dynamis. (wouldn't matter if thf, rdm, sam, war etc.) Changeing subjobs as we discussed is an entirely different topic. What is stopping me from being bst/thf? Its not bst/dnc.
Treasure Hunter Effect Amongst Jobs
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02-05-2012, 09:00 AMZinato
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02-05-2012, 09:05 AMNynjaok, then why the 3 pages of BOO HOO HOO exactly if TH doesnt affect dynamis, considering majority of bst's abysseaburned their bst's to 99 for the sole purpose of dynamis?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinato
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02-05-2012, 09:12 AMZinato
When did I boohoo? My first post i was laughing. I told you take away TH3 let thf have the only ability they will ever have, SE basically put this in stone by taking it away from everything else. All I have said is my lvl 99 THF pet (which by your testimony) has the birth right of TH, is equal to a pup/dnc in terms of potency, which is lame. Even RNG which barely even makes sense to have TH (COR would make more sense, Pirate + treasure = ???) has more then a BST pet. They didn't reduce TH as much as they put it at the very bottom, and the PET: TH gear ill bet applies to smn, pup and drg as well (meaning even with the gear pup will have equal TH to a lvl 99 THF pet)
And since we were on the topic of dynamis why do you think there are procs in the first place? Could it be they didnt want an army of THFs walking in and using TH3 to clean the place out? BST/DNC killing for currency may very well be a result of THF in the first place. -
02-05-2012, 09:15 AMNynja
i didnt mean you directly, I mean the 3 pages of "WAHHHHH" going on here by the bst community, and I use the term community loosely as, as I said above, majority of people here "BAWWWW"ing use their bst solely for optimal solo dynamis farming.
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02-05-2012, 09:28 AMZinato
And, I don't see why I've been farming dynamis on BST for months. I've used a variety of pets TH and not, results are nearly the same. (even I don't understand the need to keep TH3, TH2 ill fight for but not TH3) Why do I use Yuly? Because, mixed with EVA axes nothing can touch him, (I do have to give THFs credit for EVA) in most cases I can heal him to full with stay while moving camps, and have him there by the time I proc the first mob in the next camp. Otherwise TH has done nothing for me outside abyssea or a random farm fest here and there, both cases do warrent /thf. If you take nothing from this, at least take the fact as a BST that solos dynamis daily TH3 is not a loss, TH2 debatable since that does make a difference in everyday things. (and again all these BSTs complaining about dynamis have been grossly misinformed, since TH isn't even a BSTs greatest advantage in dynamis) Now if they take away /dnc steps or flourishes then there will be something to discuss.
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02-05-2012, 09:28 AMCamiieQuote:
Originally Posted by Nynja
It's related, but it isn't a problem. So what? BST is an outstanding soloer even without top notch gear? Well stop the presses! We've got the story of the decade right here! BST is a job who's sole accepted purpose is to be a soloer. They probably SHOULD be better at it than any other job since they sadly have nothing else to offer. SE tosses them a bit of TH since they're usually on their own, and it's all of a sudden Armageddon.
A WHM is still the best healer in game even if they aren't tricked out. A DD job is still going to do more DPS than a non-DD job. A half-assed BST is going to solo better than a job with less natural soloing ability. That's just how it is.
If you want something good for THF then ask for something good for THF. Taking a wiz in someone else's Cheerios doesn't do a thing for you unless you just get a thrill out of being vindictive. I'd like to think you aren't that type, but many people in life seem to be. Heck, I know I don't count for much but I'd be behind THF getting a boost. I know you guys have had it rough for a long time, and I'd be glad to see things change for the better. -
02-05-2012, 09:43 AMdeces
Square Enix should get out of the gaming business, and start selling retread tires.
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02-05-2012, 09:44 AMNynjaand THF is a job who's sole purpose as STATED BY THE GAME DEVS is to make treasure appear. They probaby SHOULD be better at it than any other job since sadly they have nothing else to offer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Camiie
yet a bst walks out with a lot more currency than a solo thf. go figure.
We did, and guess what we were told?Quote:
Originally Posted by Camiie
Q: Add Subtle Blow to thief.
A: Due to the fact that normal attacks now increase the effects of Treasure Hunter, we chose to forgo the addition of Subtle Blow as a trade off.
Cant give native Subtle Blow becuse of Treasure Hunter. -
02-05-2012, 09:53 AMCamiieQuote:
Originally Posted by Nynja
I'd have no problem at all with them boosting THF's base TH. Hell it'd be great for everyone who is a THF or teams up with one. Tanaka would sooner pull the plug on the servers than have more loot dropping, but this is the direction they should be going in. If they wanted to do this or you wanted to propose it, it's got my support.
As I said, I'd love for THF to get some love. You guys deserve a break after all these years. I don't know if more TH is the answer or what, but I want good things to happen for THFs. I just don't want bad things to happen to BST or any other job. -
02-05-2012, 09:54 AMZinato/dnc + proc system. Not trying to fight you just making sure we know who the culprit is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nynja
BST and THF are fighting neither cause a significant change in dynamis. BST/DNC better DD than THF/DNC, simple as that. After the adjustment BST will still pull in more currency. I'd be upset about limbus if over 60% of mobs weren't preset for drops.