Haste and You... A guide to the misinformed.

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Originally Posted by Fondle

Jumping to conclusions much? She simply stated, repeatedly, that's how she likes to play and then gets bombarded by vitriolic statements from mathspewing trolls. If anyone is the troll here its OP.

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It was more like she insisted that her style of play (not swapping gear or using much haste) was just as good as gearing how the OP suggested. When presented with proof and logic as to why this is not true, she flipped a lid and went ballistic. That's when people started making fun of her.

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Originally Posted by Fondle

Jumping to conclusions much? She simply stated, repeatedly, that's how she likes to play and then gets bombarded by vitriolic statements from mathspewing trolls. If anyone is the troll here its OP.

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The repeatedly part is the reason its annoying..

They said their bit...

Nobody needs the same thing said 50 times......

We get it.. they don't like haste..

you don't need to swap gear to enjoy the game.. you don't need haste to have fun in abyssea w/e

They basically came in and made the thread about them

We got it.. they have a unique special play style..

The rest of us would like to discuss haste >_>

I actually asked because the other thread she was somewhat trolling in was the earthquake thread. It seemed like she wants to go against popular opinion in both threads I read that she posted in.

So how bout them salvage drop rates.

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Originally Posted by rog

If she accepted that she's a bad player because of how she plays, then we wouldn't have a problem with her.

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Also this.

If you're bad, it really doesn't bother me. You can take the advice or not.

However, when you're bad, and defending that standpoint, then that's when you get threads like this one.


There's a diff between

A) Black belt is a lot of work and mnk isn't my main job, so even though brown belt isn't as good, I'm going to stick with this.

B) Hey guys, twilight belt is much better than black belt, you can cap haste if you change your gear around in other slots and get 2% DA zomg!!!

Neither of these players have black belt. However, I have no problem with player A, while player B is just a tard.

You guys are so quick to call her gimp when she is simply defending her right to be gimp. Imposing all of your math and formulas and calculations on her is barbaric, bordering on psychological battery.

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Originally Posted by Fondle

You guys are so quick to call her gimp when she is simply defending her right to be gimp. Imposing all of your math and formulas and calculations on her is barbaric, bordering on psychological battery.

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She's not defending her right to be gimp, she's arguing that she isn't gimp at all.

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simply defending her right to be gimp.

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No, she's saying she's not a bad player.

If she acknowledged so, we wouldn't be having this conversation right now, lol.

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Originally Posted by Fondle

You guys are so quick to call her gimp when she is simply defending her right to be gimp. Imposing all of your math and formulas and calculations on her is barbaric, bordering on psychological battery.

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So you're the new thread troll..

Thread is about haste >_>

Not how not being able to handle opposing views on the internet can "traumatize" a person.

Nobody forced them to stay and post the same thing 50 times (reworded each time)

Are you gonna make this thread about you now.. or try to keep it about them?

Thank you to the OP for the haste information, I have always liked haste when TP-ing, as a thf, I "normally" never believe in +attack and +str anyway.

Let me first say that everyone DOES have their own play style, and gear swap or not, play good or play bad is all just choice of wanting to perfect their job or lazy their way.

With that said, I just can't hold myself about people who doesn't gear swap and make a ton of excuse about why they don't want to. I played THF for many years, and have always carried with me a DEX, AGI, Haste, Evasion, R.acc set (I also have acc set too, but isn't used much any more). DEX for SA only and WSing. AGI for TA, Haste obviously for TPing, Evasion for tanking. Like I said if you just want to play plain, say so, but don't say no gear swap is anywhere as good as gear swap. Maxing out the stat that will benefit what you doing at the moment most will make you a totally different THF. Way before abyssea, many have always say THF sucks for reaosn b/c of people that doesn't swap gear, SA with haste, TA with haste, ws with evasion gear, YUP, that will make the THF suck!

SE made so many different gears, and they are all "situational" (there are NOT that many FULL time piece of gear out there), so you should focus playing the game and understand what gear is best under what situation if you want to be good at thf

just as an example: first instinct of a THF/NIN in a situation when your shadow is down, and the mob has good accuracy over your natural evasion should be... PUT ON THOSE DAMN EVASION GEAR and start shadow casting, NOT wait.. wait..wait.. that whm is gonna cast cure on me anytime now.............I shouldn't blink (even back in the days where stpt is not available)
BUT will you WS with evasion gear, SURE, if the situation demands it, the mob HIT HARDS and you have no shadow already, or the mob have very good accuacy on you, so you don't want to lose your shadow too early. EVEN THEN, you can do a quick change in between the mob's attack and switch bk to evasion, if you are quick and experienced

but then again of course, it's just a game, if you don't want to play a good thf, continue with no gear swap, it's your choice