Newest interview (abyssea was a mistake?)

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Originally Posted by Luvbunny

There are a lot of things that changed from what the game was made to be, because the players responded and reacted and tell the developers this is how they want it to be - like Ninja tank and how awesome Rdm used to be (which resulted in Rdm getting crap in the years after that). It is online "social" game that evolves because of the players participation - which dictates what the developers will do next (if they are smart that is). Just because you make the game, does not mean players have to take it as it is, unless it is offline game like FF13 (which got a lot of negative reaction for its linearity). If they want to keep paying subscribers, they have to react fast and evolve fast (which they did with forums and test servers) - move forward to the future and leave the past behind (no need to reminiscence how great the way things used to be - they are gone because the majority do not want them).

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People loved it as it was, FFxi was very highly regarded despite its smaller player base before ffxi and was the 2nd highest income subscription based mmo for a number of years up to abyssea, which didnt change that. (right under wow).

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Originally Posted by Kimble

Who are others? The people that create the game? They can do whatever they feel like doing.

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The others would be people like you who like to complain that they have better things to do than waste time in a game. Which logically should suggest to them that they shouldnt be playing games in the first place then.

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Originally Posted by HimuraKenshyn

How many worlds have been shutdown? If that's not the biggest clue to the fact the game needed the changes they made and so many players came back if they go back to the old ways basically the end is in sight and the subtle push to 14 will be completed. Looks like the only way to make 14 a success is make 11 unplayable again for most lol....

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Take a look, worlds were shut down after abyssea... people came back to see what was changed and they didnt like it which lead them to quit again. Many of the players who quit before abyssea did so to start up on ffxiv and simply didnt return even with the unhappy events around that.

Um.. im pretty sure FFXI wasn't the 2nd highest.

Nothing says fun like standing around and doing nothing right?

Honestly, you are the only person ive ever met that has a problem with faster means of travel.

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Originally Posted by HimuraKenshyn

How many worlds have been shutdown? If that's not the biggest clue to the fact the game needed the changes they made and so many players came back if they go back to the old ways basically the end is in sight and the subtle push to 14 will be completed. Looks like the only way to make 14 a success is make 11 unplayable again for most lol....

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Let's hope it won't come to this. Though you can see a massive difference in the attitude from FF14 developer (Yoshi) and the FF11 (Tanaka now - again...). Do I wish that Yoshi is back and in charge of FF11? YES YES YES and many times YES!! This is a guy who understand what the consumers wants and have a good read of the new things and what works, and actually rather prompt in delivering BIG results and SUCCESS!! No wonder he is now put in charge to fix the mess that Tanaka did with FF14 - I would do the same if I were SE. If you read Yoshi regular newsletter, you feel a connection and confident in his abilities, a HUGE difference from the bits of interview from FFXI. It's like the team lead by Tanaka (again) now felt threatened by the success of Abyssea and trying to backtrack and dismiss it as failure and how unhappy they are. What a crap of BS!! Office politics more like it.

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Originally Posted by Kimble

Um.. im pretty sure FFXI wasn't the 2nd highest.

Nothing says fun like standing around and doing nothing right?

Honestly, you are the only person ive ever met that has a problem with faster means of travel.

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It was, I haven't seen the report since 2008 but if abyssea boosted numbers like you said it did then theres little reason for it to have changed.

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Originally Posted by Natasha

Take a look, worlds were shut down after abyssea... people came back to see what was changed and they didnt like it which lead them to quit again. Many of the players who quit before abyssea did so to start up on ffxiv and simply didnt return even with the unhappy events around that.

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A lot of people slowly started to quit FFXI around 2007-2008 when WOTG came out because WOTG added hardly any new end game content. The game got very stagnate and stale.

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Originally Posted by Natasha

It was, I haven't seen the report since 2008 but if abyssea boosted numbers like you said it did then theres little reason for it to have changed.

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Where did I say it boosted numbers? lol

Also.

http://www.brighthub.com/video-games...les/35992.aspx

FFXI was never second anything. Maybe if you completely ignored korean MMOs FFXI came in the Top 4 for awhile.

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Originally Posted by Kimble

Where did I say it boosted numbers? lol

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Sorry, wasnt speaking of you personally.. Im talking aobut those supporting abyssea, I see alot of 'it brought more people into the game'.

Edit: and like i said, last time i saw it, it was in 2008