New Font?

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Originally Posted by RAIST

yeah, the screen shot is not taken by the card itself--you are saving the raw data as presented byt the game's engine to the OS's API layer. It is more an issue with how it is getting rendered on your particular system.

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^ This.

The HUD elements are rendered to a set of prioritized 2D planes which then get projected into 3-space using an oblique (non-perspective) transformation. Different cards and drivers could be getting slightly different results for these calculations, causing some to lose pixel information.

Numbers are fine, but names are unreadable for me after around 40', on a 1600x900 monitor, with bg res set the same. They used to be readable up to 50' with comic sans :(

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Originally Posted by Sagian

^ This.

The HUD elements are rendered to a set of prioritized 2D planes which then get projected into 3-space using an oblique (non-perspective) transformation. Different cards and drivers could be getting slightly different results for these calculations, causing some to lose pixel information.

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FFXI doesn't render the 3D scene directly to the framebuffer. It renders it into a texture which is placed on a 2D plane "behind" the other HUD elements. If the resolution of this texture is different than the screen resolution it gets resized to fit. The only HUD elements that are actually a part of the 3D scene are the character/monster names and the linkpearl icon. All other UI elements are rendered separately.

They changed something with this tweak though.. names don't go awol on me now when I change fillmodes like they were doing before. names past a certain distance used to get all weird--turn to hash lines and stuff, sometimes just disappear completely. Now they stay intact all the way to the back of the draw distance.

That is awesome.

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Originally Posted by RAIST

They changed something with this tweak though.. names don't go awol on me now when I change fillmodes like they were doing before. names past a certain distance used to get all weird--turn to hash lines and stuff, sometimes just disappear completely. Now they stay intact all the way to the back of the draw distance.

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I like how you admit openly to using cheat tools on SE's forum.

Reported btw.

Do you have a CD/DVD burner and software to burn them? Then you are a pirate......nevermind that you have a legal right to make one personal use backup copy of any media you have purchased and still have the original source copy.

This has been beaten to death countless times in various media: Mode of use for a tool determines if you are breaking the rules, not the existence of the tools themselves.

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Originally Posted by Atomic_Skull

I like how you admit openly to using cheat tools on SE's forum.

Reported btw.

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Yeah, come on raist. Next time you have to end those kinds of posts with "or so i've heard".

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Originally Posted by rog

Yeah, come on raist. Next time you have to end those kinds of posts with "or so i've heard".

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meh...it's a case of the pot calling the kettle black...for all the layman knows, it could be a trick with a video card driver (which, by the way is possible on older video cards). So, Atomic has knowledge of a tridck that is not exsactly common knowledge...needs to take a look in the mirror.

I don't do anything with my system that can't be done in the game...I just choose to use features available on my system because they fix graphics issues with the game is all. Love how I can be called a cheater for making my game look decent.

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Originally Posted by RAIST

meh...it's a case of the pot calling the kettle black...for all the layman knows, it could be a trick with a video card driver (which, by the way is possible on older video cards). So, Atomic has knowledge of a tridck that is not exsactly common knowledge...needs to take a look in the mirror.

I don't do anything with my system that can't be done in the game...I just choose to use features available on my system because they fix graphics issues with the game is all. Love how I can be called a cheater for making my game look decent.

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I don't use windower and never have. I'm not about to risk getting banned on an account I've put 9 years into. I know of those things but I would never be stupid enough to use them.

Never said I was using Windower--you just assumed that. That isn't the only tool that can access the registers to toggle graphics features off. Tools like ATT and 3D Analyze are system level tools, and have nothing to do with what program you are running--they work directly with control registers and DirectX/driver features. There are others I've used in the past, but they are grossly outdated and for chips no longer in production (S3, 3dfx, etc.)--some were even dos utilities you had to run trhough batch files or directly from the command line.

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Originally Posted by Atomic_Skull

I don't use windower and never have. I'm not about to risk getting banned on an account I've put 9 years into.

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I lol'd.

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I actually like the font, the grainy look of the old one that I was never able to completely fix with registry resolution tweaks etc bothered me. It seems to have been amateurishly designed though. The spacing of letters is not consistent at all. My name appears like this:

C h o c o bit s. "C" space "h" space "o" space "c" space "o" double space o.O "b" "i" "t" double space again o.O "s".

Please run the font through an image editor again and l2font.

After analyzing all of the various bug reports, complaints about game play systems, the relevance of certain jobs and the path that jobs are taking into the future, we have come to the conclusion that the Type font used in the game was the issue. We have changed the type font. Please do not comment on any issues that existed prior to the Type Font change, they have all been resolved with the use of the new Type Font.

Thank you,
The Management

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/136...0510230948.png

This is what I get when I try to read names at a distance, some people have said that turning up the graphics would fix this, how does one go about doing that?

I love this new HD font.
There is a soloution to the "blurry" some of you speak of I believe. Its called XI View

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Originally Posted by Cerelyn

I love this new HD font.
There is a soloution to the "blurry" some of you speak of I believe. Its called XI View

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Except it hasnt been updated yet. And SE changed the way they do the fonts now so it isn't easy to change back.

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Originally Posted by Raksha

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/136...0510230948.png

This is what I get when I try to read names at a distance, some people have said that turning up the graphics would fix this, how does one go about doing that?

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http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Graphics

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Originally Posted by RAIST

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Graphics

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Ok so what do I have to change to be able to read names again? Screen resolution?

EDIT: hmm when i try to change my screen resolution the game changes it back, any ideas?

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Originally Posted by Atomic_Skull

FFXI doesn't render the 3D scene directly to the framebuffer. It renders it into a texture which is placed on a 2D plane "behind" the other HUD elements. If the resolution of this texture is different than the screen resolution it gets resized to fit. The only HUD elements that are actually a part of the 3D scene are the character/monster names and the linkpearl icon. All other UI elements are rendered separately.

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I wasn't really talking about the 3D scene, since I don't consider any element of it (including names and icons) as part of the HUD.

Menu boxes, text windows, buff icons, clock, compass, text, etc. are first written to a 2D plane, then that plane is projected using a z-coordinate to establish what-appears-in-front-of-what. So, text isn't actually written in the menu boxes - it's written in front of them - but it uses a non-perspective transformation so that things with a larger z-coordinate do not appear scaled by distance.

It's that last bit that has caused problems with HUD elements and different cards and drivers all the way back to FFVII, especially with fonts. I can't say for certain if that is actually what is happening here, but I can safely say "I see a pattern."

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Originally Posted by Raksha

Except it hasnt been updated yet. And SE changed the way they do the fonts now so it isn't easy to change back.

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XI view was updated shortly after the servers went down. Except for the names, which were left the same. And it actually is not the all that hard to fix for the new format. I put something together for my comic sans.dat in less than 2 hours, most of which was figuring shit out, and i could do a new one is probably 30 minutes. However because of SE's shitty job spacing the letters, and also using an italic font, the spacing between letters looks atrocious. See http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/l...511_004959.jpg for what i mean.

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Originally Posted by Raksha

Except it hasnt been updated yet. And SE changed the way they do the fonts now so it isn't easy to change back.

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It was patched on may 9th but ok

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Originally Posted by Cerelyn

It was patched on may 9th but ok

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Yes but it uses the new font, am I missing something here? I dont know anything about xi view.

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--== DOWNLOADS ==--
XI View V1.06 - (1.41 MB) - Patched for 5/9/11. Currently using new SE default HD font text for on screen data such as damage and names.

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EDIT: Ok well jacking the resolution and background to 1680 x 1050 made the font legible from a distance, but now the chatbox and macro bar is way too small. Why is it so difficult to play a game that doesnt look retarded? I'm gonna go out on a limb and say this new font was the worst idea any one has ever had in the history of the world (yes including snuggies). Shit worked fine for 9 years, if you're gonna change it give ppl the option to switch back, ffs.