New update, new subjob?

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Originally Posted by Gradd

Sounds like your another shit lazy whm to me.

I play WHM and I am pretty damn pro at it, a whm that wont erase a Melee can die in a fire. Name one mob that makes it impossible for you to keep a haste cycle up because they cast slowga, and don't say sandworms.

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Fair does have a cookie

but honestly lazy maybe shit nahh...

U can go over and over it w/e it's better for me to focus on keeping people alive i honestly rather that than DDs bitch about some more damage.

if i have accession up then yea party will get erased np but outside that i'm focusing on tank and keeping pple alive and i'm considered a good WHM too in my linkshell because i do whats needed and that keep pple alive.

Also any mob that casts a AoE slow that overwrites haste makes impossible to keep a haste cycle up cause if haste drops for any reason it's not keeping haste up :P

It definitely not 5x DMG unless ya counting /SAM lowest vs /THF highest at times i've parse it to be 4 x higher in a few cases.

Either way i think this is the last i'll post on /THF cause it's getting pointless were talking about WHMs hasting slowaga ect ect which is what i ment by situational so unless some other topic brings it up i'll leave it there either way it works for me and my linkshell really well and it does outperform /SAM occasionally for me.

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Originally Posted by RaenRyong

Okay, so you do 2.5x~ damage with a WS every 1 minute.

/sam has 1-2 less xhit and 10% more Haste than you. More accuracy if necessary. Meditate. Sekkanoki. How exactly is 2.5x~ damage with a WS per minute going to produce 5x as much WS damage overall?

/thf is only good if you're in some incredibly silly scenario (eg WS onry) where you may as well not be there at all.



Silly scenario. PS: /whm will outdo /thf if you're not getting erased. Can erase and haste yourself, net of ~+25% Haste!

Killing it in like 1 min tops means your /thf has contributed a whole one Sneak Attack. You're telling me Sekkanoki 2x WS => Meditate and Hasso/lower xhit isn't going to outdo that?

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do the xhit math with Caladbolg..

also it is alot more than 2.5x i was doing torcleaver for 800~1700 /sam and 4.5~8K on /thf

meditate is a very SMALL boost to WS freq

you are also slowed like a stated in my post so the 10% haste isnt that big. trust me i did like 30 of the sandworm for my friends h2h and i did about 10/sam before i switched to /thf

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Originally Posted by Jar

do the xhit math with Caladbolg..

also it is alot more than 2.5x i was doing torcleaver for 800~1700 /sam and 4.5~8K on /thf

meditate is a very SMALL boost to WS freq

you are also slowed like a stated in my post so the 10% haste isnt that big. trust me i did like 30 of the sandworm for my friends h2h and i did about 10/sam before i switched to /thf

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I don't believe your WS figures. Either your pdif was HORRENDOUS or you're making it up/got lucky Trip Procs on your /thf and not on your /sam.

Meditate is small, but it's still 3-5% except in huge haste situations. If you're permaslowed, it's more.

You should've changed to /whm! 25%+ more Haste!

If you can get 1700 at most on /SAM u can't get 8k on /THF lol (it's to do with level dif more that pdif here)

When i can get 8k /THF(300%tp) /SAM i can get near an avg of 2k+ with the odd 3k ws (triple attack)

But when i'm on the low end it's with like 1.2kish avg /SAM i'm looking at 4k min-6k max on /THF so 4.5kish avg

I know i said i'd not post about /THF but if ya gonna agrue for /THF be honest with ur numbers lol

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Originally Posted by Rezeak

If you can get 1700 at most on /SAM u can't get 8k on /THF lol (it's to do with level dif more that pdif here)

When i can get 8k /THF(300%tp) /SAM i can get near an avg of 2k+ with the odd 3k ws (triple attack)

But when i'm on the low end it's with like 1.2kish avg /SAM i'm looking at 4k min-6k max on /THF so 4.5kish avg

I know i said i'd not post about /THF but if ya gonna agrue for /THF be honest with ur numbers lol

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i puyt low high from a parse so i did get 8K in there

well this turned into a monkey shit fight at the zoo.

*starts flinging poo!*

It sort of makes me sad that VIT really does nothing for Torcleaver. . .

JUST STACKAN' THE STR AND ATTK LIKE A CHAMP AND DEM FTP MODS.

Just to break up the monotony ...

/sch

Come on, let er rip! I've had fun with this subjob because #1 I can #2 I have light-hearted groupmates #3 ... Because I can!

Cheers! :)

P.S. #4 - There's enough epeen DRKs around to sink an island and it's fun to be outcast!

i could sub pld and use a staff if i wanted too as well. Doesn't mean that I'm going to.

Cheers to you then, mate.
/pld isn't really that useful unless you want like access to swift blade for stagger, which is just pointless. Ask a pld friend, its easier!

The point of that statement was simply this: There's a world of subjobs out there to experiment with to fit the style of any type of drk, be it zomg DRK SMASH or the more playful of us who are surrounded by said types. That being said, it's a viable and different option that's found its use in my personal style and before the 'go play BLM' bat comes out, I'll just say that I do and my epeen there is massive enough to cover the part of my DRK ego that never existed.