Holy crap guys

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To be fair, however, I've done almost all of my recent Delves with either of two SCH, pretty much. An LS mate starts the group, starts talking to one of the two, presumably, then I jump in. I remember SCH being a pain to come across sometimes but if you can't find a SCH you can just do the Bee or Dawakawakawaka instead of Tojil. While Apoth and Guillotine both suck, I don't remember either of those NMs "requiring" a SCH or, by extension in this conversation, RDM.

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We did the exact same thing, but then our SCH's have become extremely busy and we've had to resort to getting PUG SCH's which often fail miserably. One of our group WHM's then geared up SCH and I finished gearing a stun RDM (like I said I already had 95% of the gear). This gave us a bit more flexibility whenever we farm plasma, damn needing all those 300K Delve II plasm items for 119 upgrades.

Bee is hit / miss for stunning, you definitely want to stun stinger volley and it's incisive moves as they can be worse then Lahar. Shark you need to stun everything as Guillotine with magic defense down is how melee's get instantly KO'd. Unless your WHM has a mythic they won't be able to keep up with the status debuffs unless you stun Shark's TP moves.

inb4 haste 2 is 16% and doesn't stack with haste 1 lol

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...940#post512940

Details.... doesn't give data on % values but nice array of spells regardless. Hopefully those evasion/magic evasion down spells will be on par with the acc+ from songs.

Oh, and SE got our backs for covering RNG too. Looks like these adjustments are directly related to having RDM compete with BRD. Still no severe damage mitigation though. Maybe a stoneskin that is party targetting like Diamondhide would help a bit.

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Originally Posted by Babekeke

inb4 haste 2 is 16% and doesn't stack with haste 1 lol

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Matsui-san said Haste II was 30% in mogitate, so I'm just waiting for Camate to confirm or deny that is final.

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It looks like the new physical evasion down spell isn't Weight II but another spell that will, hopefully, stack with Weight.

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More importantly, it will probably work on things that Gravity does not work on.

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Matsui-san said Haste II was 30% in mogitate, so I'm just waiting for Camate to confirm or deny that is final.

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That's good because I'd prefer haste II to be significantly better and not stack, because having to maintain 2 hastes on everybody would be just crazy.

What would you rather have: 2 hastes that stack and come out to 30%? or one spell that does the same thing without needing to stack it?

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Originally Posted by Raydeus

Matsui-san said Haste II was 30% in mogitate, so I'm just waiting for Camate to confirm or deny that is final.

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I'm surprised and impressed that it is this much, as it's actually game-changing. Using haste 2 now only requires 1 march to cap magic haste, allowing for more acc/att instead. (or def/scherzo/ballad as required). I assumed that it would be 25% so that even a G horn bard would need marcato to cap (G horn bard would be 0.8% off cap - non-G horn ~2.3%).

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

That's good because I'd prefer haste II to be significantly better and not stack, because having to maintain 2 hastes on everybody would be just crazy.

What would you rather have: 2 hastes that stack and come out to 30%? or one spell that does the same thing without needing to stack it?

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I'd rather have a 30 that stacks with the old 15. As is the only point to haste II is your brd gets to drop a march... so yay this update makes you a brd song +1 that will so get you an invite over say just another brd <.<. Or even better I wish haste II was also 15% but it counted as ja haste instead of magical haste. That would be crazy game changing if people every stop just throwing mnks at everything lol

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Originally Posted by Raydeus

Matsui-san said Haste II was 30% in mogitate, so I'm just waiting for Camate to confirm or deny that is final.

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:D You'll have to wait and see for sure, but...;)

On a side-note, Haste and Haste II will occupy the same slot and cannot stack. In the event that they these spells are cast at the same time, Haste II will take priority.

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And now I'm wondering if Rainemard will get Haste II as well.

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Originally Posted by Camate

:D You\\'ll have to wait and see for sure, but...;)

On a side-note, Haste and Haste II will occupy the same slot and cannot stack. In the event that they these spells are cast at the same time, Haste II will take priority.

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Camate, please tell me haste 1 won't be able to prioritize blu's new haste spell.

Any chance to add a spell for RDM that's castable on party members that reduces Breath Damage taken? It could be equivalent to Shell V's potency but work for Breaths and would make RDM great at reducing damage from Arrogance Incarnate or Shrieking Wail which do unavoidable extreme breath damage AoE(absurdly high damage which most conventional equipment and magic do not help block!)

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Originally Posted by Tennotsukai

Camate, please tell me haste 1 won't be able to prioritize blu's new haste spell.

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Oh god yes. I always hated when someone would cast their (same strength) haste on me that would wear off in no time flat (and of course by then they would forget to haste me until I hasted myself again....)

I got a question for Camate to pass off to the devs. I was wondering, with the addition of Haste II and the eventual addition of Hastega II for SMNs, would it be possible for them to drop the limitation on Accession and Haste 1? It always seemed like a silly limitation as it felt like the only reason they didn't allow it was because they didn't want to take AoE Haste away from SMN (Which nobody invited SMN for anyways... I mean, if you bring a SMN you use 'em for other purposes).

Since the general rule for Accession spells is that if SCH can gain access to the spell it can be Accessioned, so I don't think anyone expects Haste II to work with it. All I ask for is for the original Haste to finally work, as it always should have. With the way the game has grown in the last couple years I really see no reason to hold this back anymore.

I agree with Muras. I think with the addition of a lot of new haste options, it's time to allow Accession + Haste 1 to work. Also I'd like for Hastega 1 to be added to WHM. Not that WHM isn't sitting pretty at the moment, but I just never understood why they didn't have it by 99 as they can practically AoE every other Enhancing Magic they have. One of their niches has always been providing any of their buffs fast and mp efficiently with the downside being having to potentially come into AoE range.

That and hastega is already a level 50ish spell for WHM... moblins and other various NPC's. Just add the damned scroll to the game.