Besieged - update please!

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Originally Posted by Camate

In the upcoming version update we will be making the following adjustments to Imperial Standing rewards:

• Amount of IS received for turning in an Archaic Mirror to an Imperial Gate Guard will increase
from 200 → 1000
• Amount of IS received for successfully bringing back the Astral Candescence will increase
from 1000 → 10,000
• Amount of IS received (base + bonus) when rescuing a prisoner will change as outlined below:

• Base amount
Serpent Generals: 150→1,500
Other: 100→1,000
　
• Depending on your rank you will receive a bonus as well:
Private Second Class: None
Private First Class: 5→50
Superior Private: 10→100
Lance Corporal: 15→150
Corporal: 20→200
Sergeant: 25→250
Sergeant Major: 30→300
Chief Sergeant: 35→350
Second Lieutenant: 40→400
First Lieutenant/Captain: 50→500

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YAY! More zero's added! I am really glad the dev team is paying attention to this older content, making it more worth the whole player base's efforts. Also while i know you guys are SUPER busy with all the stuff going on, is there anyway we could get besieged happening just a little bit more frequently? I am not trying to easy mode the exp or leveling or anything like that, it is simply a fact that besieged are now too short with a lot of 90 players in there, i think it would be a simpler fix to reduce some timing delays as opposed to adding in things like a level 10 besieged, which some people have been suggesting, i would rather see more of them, maybe a wave of each mob each rl day? Something of that nature as opposed to the 16-72 hrs between them now. (Shortness will only be exacerbated when we hit 99 i fear). As always we look forward to hearing any information. And thank you thank you again for updating besieged to where it is now. :o

The devs only reply to threads that are relevant to what they are working on or planning to work on (and make it seem like they are doing spontaniously out of love for their lovely community). If you haven't recieved a reply yet I wouldn't hold your breath. I am getting close to an acceptable level for Besieged and my bf is new to FFXI so he's never done it before. I'd really like it if we could do more than just enjoy the content for what it is and reap some nifty worth-while benefits.

EDIT: More IS is nice but... can u even obtain anything >lv75 with the points?

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Originally Posted by Camate

Stuff Camate said

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Thanks for that info, Camate. Will you also be adjusting the amount of exp gained from the actual beieged events too? Considering how big a boost we have seen to overall exp gain rates lately, I think that would make a lot of sense.

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Originally Posted by JackDaniels

More IS is nice but... can u even obtain anything >lv75 with the points?

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I'd like to draw your attention to http://ffxi.gamerescape.com/wiki/Imperial_Standing under common. There's 4 new pup attachments, 3 of which are worth 70-80k a pop on Shiva... Idk about you but I would much rather spend 20k isp for them than ~260k gil (or even better yet.. use up extra isp to make gil). Not to mention there isn't another item that has same effect as Lufaz's Ring for COR (godsend while trying to buff damn blm pts who never want to stand together) and I know that's pre-75 but just sayin.

If you do a lot of voidwatch, you can also get cells using ISP.

I'm not disputing that the (ir)relevance of most ISP stuff (particularly the perdu weps which sadly lost all their former glory not long after abyssea came out) makes the items worth the current cost, or that there doesnt need to have more stuff added, but you asked a question so I answered :P

20k IS is 400k gil (on sylph anyway), using it directly on pup attachments would be crazy!

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EDIT: More IS is nice but... can u even obtain anything >lv75 with the points?

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What a lot of people do on my current server is do besieged, grab some Imp gold Coins and sell them on the AH for 10k each. Considering you can now get 5k IS (at least) for one besieged that is 50k for 20~ mins of work. Easy money and everything that can be bought with IS can be bought at any level, the usefulness of it does vary, but you can buy anything. Also, the person that mentioned pup attachments, they were 150-200k on our server when they came up, i dropped 20k~ IS on them for my husband's pup, didn't cost me anything in gil, and since i already had over 100k IS, he had the attachments pretty much before anyone else and for a lot cheaper. So, if you have no other use for IS which can be gotten starting at lvl 30 (for decent cure exp) and 60~ for melee, make money! Go, go IS.

In my personal opinion, doing things that prevent the beastmen from reaching Al Zahbi in the first place should be more rewarding than fighting them in Al Zahbi. But I think we're long since past the point of being able to fix that little oversight...

It would be very time consuming to rework the whole process to get it so that we could stop them before they ever reach al zhabi and i don't really have any idea how that would work with actually 'doing' besieged. The adjustments they are making next update do help you delay/stop the monsters when they actually arrive in town. The reason i suggested lowering the time frame is because it would be much easier to implement, and could maybe be possible while the dev's are busy doing other things. Like adding the 0's to the values, the post that said they're going to do it prolly took longer to write then actually doing it will take.

The main reason people don't intercept beastmen in Bhaflau or Wajaom is the same reason people didn't go out to break mirrors: the effort and risk weren't worth the reward. Why risk your EXP out in the Woodlands when you can wait in Al Zahbi where there is no EXP loss, plus you get more drinks than you can shake a stick at?

One easy fix to this would be to put a "tags NPC" right outside Al Zahbi, maybe with some temp items. Of course, it would also be a kludge...

Yeah, thats a lot more work compared to changing a couple time values.

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Originally Posted by Ziyyigo-Tipyigo

The main reason people don't intercept beastmen in Bhaflau or Wajaom is the same reason people didn't go out to break mirrors: the effort and risk weren't worth the reward.

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Helping a friend get BLU magic in the Reef and Mamook, I ran into a few mirrors. As SMN90, I threw out just 2 merited Grand Falls from Leviathan and got free mirrors. No death or danger necessary. One of the reef ones even had a numbered Lamia NM on it and it was still a non-issue.

Oh, they're easy enough to break alright, but the reward is rare, which means you have to run back to town each time you break one in order to get some IS for it.

Meanwhile, you can instead do absolutely nothing, then just show up for the next Besieged and, in the time it would have taken you to hike out to an Archaic Mirror and back, get several times more than the IS for breaking a mirror and EXP to boot.

On top of that, breaking Archaic Mirrors slows the frequency of those oh-so-rewarding Besiegeds, so you have a disincentive to break them to begin with.

while i agree that breaking the mirrors is counter productive to beseiged happening i think it would be easier more rewarding to offer an alternative to what the mirrors currently do instead of simply stating the fact. Perhaps if bringing the mirrors back gave the beastmen more incentive to recover them, this could be the catalyst the spurs a smaller timespace between Besieged's.