Switch to 1 Type of Dynamis Currency

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Originally Posted by Cream_Soda

They'd have the same effect on currency, such as prices equaling out between the 3, etc.

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...and that is bad for who and why? Only for those that are doing Dyna to sell currency.

There are lots of other ways to make gil rather than exploit the currency of the best DMG dealing relics.But that's just my 2 gil.

If you don't like the idea, then don't "like" the topic/thread and leave it at that. I hate seeing topics getting closed because a few people don't want to see the game changed in any way except the ideas they have and run it to the ground.

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That would be like asking to trade in your Iga Tekko +2 for Bale Gauntlets +2.

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Not at all.

Iga Tekko +2 and Bale Gauntlets +2 are both completed items.

Hikazu Hara-Ate and Deimos's Cuirass are upgrade items.

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In the instance I quoted it would only provide a way to exchange currency, not a set path that you have already undertaken.

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If they're all going to be equivalent, then what's the purpose of there even being diff paths? They're different for a reason, an npc exchanger would just make them all the same.

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When have the NPC in Nashmu that acts like a ISP currency exchange, why not extent that service to other NPC offering other currency exchange.

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That's all imperial currency, it's like taking a dollar and getting four quarters. He's not exchanging different currencies, just different amounts of the same currency.

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Asking for a NPC to exchange X,Y,Z currency is no different then the people asking for an NPC to exchange Job: slot seals.

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Which is also a rather dumb idea. Saying you're no different than the people making dumb suggestions doesn't really help your case here.

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I think the only people that would have a reason to be opposed to streamlining currency are the people that only do dynamis to sell currency. "Oh no, now all currency has equal value!!"

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While we're at it, let's just make all items the same. Let's exchange one bronze piece for relics and beat cesti for Amano!

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...and that is bad for who and why? Only for those that are doing Dyna to sell currency.

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I never said it was bad. Again you're missing my point. I said your idea is essentially the same as the OPs because it would have the same effect, when you were acting like it was such a different idea, when it was the same one with new wrapping.

Forgive me for my lack of knowledge in Salvage, the last time I did that was when it first came out and was only seen as naked pajama parties. Allow me to try again...... Your salvage reference doesn't make much since to me because in your example you are changing a path of gear that you had already started on. That would be like asking to trade in your Jewel of Vision for a Coin of Vision. (could be a swing and a miss there too, but the point I was trying to make is exchanging currency wouldn't directly effect the path of gear you have already started.)

The purpose of having different paths at the time of inception I believe is so not everyone was trying to do runs in the same area. I don't know, I don't work for SE. And no, an NPC exchanger wouldn't make them all the same. The back story of all three nations divided would still fit the game. The only thing it would change is just making the gil value of them the same. (Which is still not a bad idea for anyone other than people trying to make gil from selling relic currency)

I am aware that the Nashmu exchange NPC only does ISP. It was only mentioned as comparison for a new NPC to take relic currency and exchange it. Kinda like banks do. "You give me one Shell, I'll give you one Bronze piece."

Again, I implore you. If you don't like an idea or suggestion leave it alone; do not hit the "Like" button or troll the thread until you can get it derailed and closed. And calling people and their ideas dumb just because you disagree doesn't really help your case at all. "Oh I disagree so he's dumb" That's the best comeback ever!! :rolleyes:

And yes, the end result of (not my idea just the guy I quoted) and the OP would be the same because you could use any currency that dropped to further your progress on a relic if you put in the said foot work to have it exchanged. While I am not against the idea of streamlining the currency I would rather see an NPC exchange than just one type of currency. Heck maybe they could make it where you would have to do a quest for the [S]-Nation of the currency that you want in order to exchange. Get a Shell from a campaign coffer in Windy, head to Sandy do a quest get it converted.

If you don't like the Title of a topic thread, don't click it. If you really don't like the post in said thread, then don't click the like button. These are all just ideas, and will most likely never see the light of day. But if people keep bashing ideas and derailing them it's just a fast track to a closed topic.

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Originally Posted by Bulrogg

.... When have the NPC in Nashmu that acts like a ISP currency exchange, why not extent that service to other NPC offering other currency exchange. Like I said, even if I have to go back in time to the [S]-Shadow-reign to find a banker that would exchange X,Y,Z currency then I would put in the foot work.

Asking for a NPC to exchange X,Y,Z currency is no different then the people asking for an NPC to exchange Job: slot seals.

I think the only people that would have a reason to be opposed to streamlining currency are the people that only do dynamis to sell currency. "Oh no, now all currency has equal value!!"

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soda is right about this comment, you can extange currency like you do in Nashmu 100 bronze > 1 silver, 100 silver > 1 gold.

there be no practical difference in having 3 different types and letting the NPC exchange them, (vs what OP said) the only way to have a reason to do that is to have all 3 and have a npc exchange is to add a "fee"

want to make your bynes into bronze? ok that would be 10 byne and you get 6 bronze.

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Forgive me for my lack of knowledge in Salvage, the last time I did that was when it first came out and was only seen as naked pajama parties. Allow me to try again...... Your salvage reference doesn't make much since to me because in your example you are changing a path of gear that you had already started on. That would be like asking to trade in your Jewel of Vision for a Coin of Vision. (could be a swing and a miss there too, but the point I was trying to make is exchanging currency wouldn't directly effect the path of gear you have already started.)

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That's the same thing.

Let's say you turned in 100 bronze pieces.

You obtain 100 bynes.

You trade them for 100 bronze to NPC

You don't change the path because you are still trading bronze.


Get hikazu hara-ate

Trade to NPC for demios cuirass

Turn in Demios Cuirass.

Its the same thing (works for af3+2 upgrades as well).

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The purpose of having different paths at the time of inception I believe is so not everyone was trying to do runs in the same area. I don't know, I don't work for SE. And no, an NPC exchanger wouldn't make them all the same. The back story of all three nations divided would still fit the game. The only thing it would change is just making the gil value of them the same. (Which is still not a bad idea for anyone other than people trying to make gil from selling relic currency)

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You could say the same about any of the other examples I've made and exchanging their upgrade items.

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I am aware that the Nashmu exchange NPC only does ISP. It was only mentioned as comparison for a new NPC to take relic currency and exchange it. Kinda like banks do. "You give me one Shell, I'll give you one Bronze piece."

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Yes, and I merely pointed out that your comparison was between two denominations of the same currency vs two different types of currencies.

Again, absolutely no diff than any of the other examples I've given w/ trading upgrade items.

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Again, I implore you. If you don't like an idea or suggestion leave it alone; do not hit the "Like" button or troll the thread until you can get it derailed and closed. And calling people and their ideas dumb just because you disagree doesn't really help your case at all. "Oh I disagree so he's dumb" That's the best comeback ever!! http://forum.square-enix.com/images/...s/rolleyes.png

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Comeback? That was more of a response to whoever made that suggestion, not to you, so I have no clue why you're putting a smiley face there. Unless you're claiming to be the one who made that suggestion, then yes, in that case, I am calling you dumb.

So you believe being able to just up and trade job seals for one another isn't a dumb idea?

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If you don't like the Title of a topic thread, don't click it. If you really don't like the post in said thread, then don't click the like button. These are all just ideas, and will most likely never see the light of day. But if people keep bashing ideas and derailing them it's just a fast track to a closed topic.

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It's a forum, forums are for discussions. If I don't like something, I'm not going to keep quiet because someones doesn't want to hear what I have to say.

Besides, it doesn't make much sense "Hey, if you don't like this don't complain about it, just leave it alone". Wouldn't the same apply to you? If you don't like my responses, don't click the like button and there's no need to complain about it.

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Originally Posted by Cream_Soda

Besides, it doesn't make much sense "Hey, if you don't like this don't complain about it, just leave it alone". Wouldn't the same apply to you? If you don't like my responses, don't click the like button and there's no need to complain about it.

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I am second this comment

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Originally Posted by Rambus

want to make your bynes into bronze? ok that would be 10 byne and you get 6 bronze.

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Why not 1:1? Are the only value assigned to the Crystal War era currency the gil that can be squeezed out of someone? Maybe SE envisioned Bastok as a third world country and that is why Bynes hold no gil value in comparison to Shells and Bronze pieces. I don't know. But a NPC to trade Crystal War era currency 1:1 doesn't bother me, in fact I am in favor of it.

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Originally Posted by Bulrogg

Why not 1:1? Are the only value assigned to the Crystal War era currency the gil that can be squeezed out of someone? Maybe SE envisioned Bastok as a third world country and that is why Bynes hold no gil value in comparison to Shells and Bronze pieces. I don't know. But a NPC to trade Crystal War era currency 1:1 doesn't bother me, in fact I am in favor of it.

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I'm not saying which one should be worth more than another, but there's no reason to be 1:1. Again, it's international, different currencies. The value between differing countries is always changing, it's never static.

Not to mention, it reduces the items in question to a mere plot device, because as actual items, they'd be 0% different.

Can't say it's really the same thing. You have come into a thread you disagree with while those of us who do are tossing around ideas. If you don't like them, hit the back button and make your own "Anti- streamlining currency' thread instead of trolling this one til it gets closed. And you have my word I wont show my face in your thread. I don't take time to read the threads I disagree with.

There's enough redundant threads. There's no need to make an "anti- streamlining currency" thread. None whatsoever. Threads are for discussions, not for agreement only circle jerks.

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Originally Posted by Cream_Soda

I'm not saying which one should be worth more than another, but there's no reason to be 1:1. Again, it's international, different currencies. The value between differing countries is always changing, it's never static.

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That would be the case if the currency was still used. But it is not. It is ancient Crystal War era currency. It only has one purpose in game, upgrading armor/gear. I have Confederate and Union money from eras ago and you know how much they are worth. Exactly the same, not worth the paper they are printed on. Why would we assign different gil values for essential the same worthless piece of paper?

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Originally Posted by Bulrogg

That would be the case if the currency was still used. But it is not. It is ancient Crystal War era currency. It only has one purpose in game, upgrading armor/gear. I have Confederate and Union money from eras ago and you know how much they are worth. Exactly the same, not worth the paper they are printed on. Why would we assign different gil values for essential the same worthless piece of paper?

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They're not made of paper. One is made of gold/bronze/silver and we have one that's made of effing sea shells. You're not comparing paper to paper. You're comparing three completely different materials that were never of equal value to begin with.

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Originally Posted by Bulrogg

If we could exchange X currency for Y or Z currency why would still solely with Bastok? I doubt the Bastok we were used to will be the same Bastok in Dyna 2.0 I may be wrong but I don't see it dropping crap tons of bills the way it does now after the update.

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People will do the easiest zone, which ever that is, and ONLY that zone because doing a harder zone will make no sense if you can exchange currency 1:1 for any other currency. Whichever zone is the most efficient means of amassing currency will be the only zone that people will do.

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Originally Posted by Bulrogg

Why not 1:1? Are the only value assigned to the Crystal War era currency the gil that can be squeezed out of someone? Maybe SE envisioned Bastok as a third world country and that is why Bynes hold no gil value in comparison to Shells and Bronze pieces. I don't know. But a NPC to trade Crystal War era currency 1:1 doesn't bother me, in fact I am in favor of it.

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because there is no point of having different currencies if they where 1 to 1, that is the point cream soda was trying to get across to you.

the only way to have a point of keeping the 3 types and having NPC extange is having a different output that would impose on a fee.

like cream soda said, in RL when you exchange currencies in RL the value changes and there is a fee that currency exchanges impose, so doing something like 10 byne = 6 bronze= 8 shells would reflect a bit more realism. and the exchange rates can be flexible depending how much people trade them for.

like if a lot of people did 10 byne for 6 bronze, it would go to 10 byne to 5 bronze and so on till people stopped mass trading, then it would go up and start all over, like in RL.

hmm you know, I really like this idea that you and soda inspired me to write

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Originally Posted by Atomic_Skull

People will do the easiest zone, which ever that is, and ONLY that zone because doing a harder zone will make no sense if you can exchange currency 1:1 for any other currency. Whichever zone is the most efficient means of amassing currency will be the only zone that people will do.

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This is the other issue yes, bastok and sandy would be the only zones being done for pure currency interest.

Aren't we forgetting that what was yesterdays easiest Dynamis zone might not be tomorrows? There is an update coming. What if all zones are now as easy as Astok? Or worse, what if they are all as headache achiving as Windy? Either way, then people could farm the zones for the gear they want and have a way to exchange currency.

We need to stop thinking that the way the game is played now, is how it will be at 99. My name isn't Obama but I'm not opposed to change.

Try reading again with more thought behind it and not just quick enough to spam a reply. I was comparing Union to Confederate paper. I thought you would be able to understand the comparison of a real world outdated currency to one in Vanadiel. To clarify since some have under par reading comprehension.


....Why would we assign different values for essentially the same worthless (as in outdated in Post Crystal War era) pieces of material....

They may have held a different value then, but now the only value they have is assigned to them by those that only do dynamis to sell the currency and its value fluctuates on how much someone is willing to pay.

Look, if streamlining currency kills your only way of making gil in the game then I am sorry but I am for it. If you are not a currency seller then why would you be against it?

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Originally Posted by Cream_Soda

Threads are for discussions, not for agreement only circle jerks.

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That's right, keep trolling till it's closed. Isn't there a bridge with goats about to cross that you should be under?

(if you're gonna troll till it's closed I guess I should help)

~gruffy

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Originally Posted by Bulrogg

We need to stop thinking that they way the game is played now, is how it will be at 99. My name isn't Obama but I'm not opposed to change.

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All I have to say is that line really confuses me and to read my post. I like you to really respond to my idea ( since that is how guild craft items are regulated as well)

click on 8:38 I feel like that
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QOya...eature=related

The only value these items have are the value we assign them in regards to the "best relic weapon" or "best relic +1 gear". If SE made them exchangeable on a 1:1 bases the only people losing out are those that sell the currency for gil.

If that's you, I'm apologize... but I am still for it.

Kind of going off topic; can you NPC relic currency? If you can, what is the price difference? I wouldn't know, I never tried. But I'm thinking if you could, their value would be the same.

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Originally Posted by Bulrogg

The only value these items have are the value we assign them in regards to the "best relic weapon" or "best relic +1 gear". If SE made them exchangeable on a 1:1 bases the only people losing out are those that sell the currency for gil.

If that's you, I'm apologize... but I am still for it.

Kind of going off topic; can you NPC relic currency? If you can, what is the price difference? I wouldn't know, I never tried. But I'm thinking if you could, their value would be the same.

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what? there is no npc store for it ( I am confused)

you trade 100 bronze for 1 silver, 100 silver for 1 gold its all the same vaule

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Look, if streamlining currency kills your only way of making gil in the game then I am sorry but I am for it. If you are not a currency seller then why would you be against it?

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The same reason I'm against exchanging af3 seals, salvage upgrades, etc.

No point in having separate items to turn around and make them the same

I haven't gotten into synthing much other than food. Aren't there a few different recipes that proc the same result? Like I said, I know as much about synthing as I do airplanes. (that's not a lot)

But I assumed you could use a tiger hide or a simoldian hide to produce some of the same synths or something like that?Forgive me if I'm wrong, I've always been a gardener as opposed to crafter.

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Originally Posted by Rambus

what? there is no npc store for it ( I am confused)

you trade 100 bronze for 1 silver, 100 silver for 1 gold its all the same vaule

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I get confused too, sometimes forgetting who I was trying to make a point to. I am aware of the Goblins that will upgrade your lower currency for bigger currency, like you said 100 bronze > 1 silver and 100 silver >1 gold.

What the post of the guy I quoted had suggested either using the same Gobs or new NPCs that would convert on a 1:1 for bronze, shell or byne.

I'll put it this way.

The currencies are NOT equal.

Why are there different requirements for different relics to begin with?

He doesn't use the currency in the craft. He takes the currency as payment and uses non currency items for the upgrade.

If they were a 1:1 ratio, there'd be no need to require a certain kind of currency, he'd just take any coin you could give him because they'd all be worth the same to him.

He obviously collects all 3 to begin with or there wouldn't be different requirements.

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Originally Posted by Bulrogg

I haven't gotten into synthing much other than food. Aren't there a few different recipes that proc the same result? Like I said, I know as much about synthing as I do airplanes. (that's not a lot)

But I assumed you could use a tiger hide or a simoldian hide to produce some of the same synths or something like that?Forgive me if I'm wrong, I've always been a gardener as opposed to crafter.



I get confused too, sometimes forgetting who I was trying to make a point to. I am aware of the Goblins that will upgrade your lower currency for bigger currency, like you said 100 bronze > 1 silver and 100 silver >1 gold.

What the post of the guy I quoted had suggested either using the same Gobs or new NPCs that would convert on a 1:1 for bronze, shell or byne.

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I was talking to you.. what are you talking about when you are saying giving to NPCs? uh quote is ...

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Originally Posted by Bulrogg

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Kind of going off topic; can you NPC relic currency? If you can, what is the price difference? I wouldn't know, I never tried. But I'm thinking if you could, their value would be the same.

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to me your acting like 2 different people now, now i am really confused.

You are correct! The currencies are not equal. Because we have assigned a gil value to them in relation to the best DMG relic weapons.

Why the different requirement? I don't know, I'm not employed by SE but my guess would be that way not everyone was trying to compete for the same one type of uni-currency and the price skyrockets. This was years ago. Who knows what SE has in store. I'll just wait and see while kicking out some ideas and contributing to others.

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You are correct! The currencies are not equal. Because we have assigned a gil value to them in relation to the best DMG relic weapons.

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This has nothing to do with it.

They're not even equal to the NPC who upgrades the relics.

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Originally Posted by Rambus

because there is no point of having different currencies if they where 1 to 1, that is the point cream soda was trying to get across to you.

the only way to have a point of keeping the 3 types and having NPC extange is having a different output that would impose on a fee.

like cream soda said, in RL when you exchange currencies in RL the value changes and there is a fee that currency exchanges impose, so doing something like 10 byne = 6 bronze= 8 shells would reflect a bit more realism. and the exchange rates can be flexible depending how much people trade them for.

like if a lot of people did 10 byne for 6 bronze, it would go to 10 byne to 5 bronze and so on till people stopped mass trading, then it would go up and start all over, like in RL.

hmm you know, I really like this idea that you and soda inspired me to write

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This is the only way you can really agure a reason for a NPC to extange currencies.

if you want 1 to 1 then the different types have no purpose.

and can you explain what you mean by NPC currecy when you know you can extange them? there is no NPC store.

soda is right with that point he just made above me as well

stage 2: 300-500
stage 3: 1200-1600? (going off top my head) *checked shield totals 1200 sorry
stage 4: 6000-6200
stage 5: 10000 with 3000 refund

I see why you got mislead. I meant can you NPC(sell) the currency like you can NPC(sell) armor, items, etc. rather than listing on the Auction House.

I am curious to see what SE's value of the currency would be if sold to an NPC.

My apologies for the misunderstanding and hope that can clear up what I was trying to say. It gets hard with all these voices in my head trying to type what each is saying. <.<

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Originally Posted by Bulrogg

I see why you got mislead. I meant can you NPC(sell) the currency like you can NPC(sell) armor, items, etc. rather than listing on the Auction House.

I am curious to see what SE's value of the currency would be if sold to an NPC.

My apologies for the misunderstanding and hope that can clear up what I was trying to say. It gets hard with all these voices in my head trying to type what each is saying. <.<

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No its grey

I did not try gold though I was exited, i also wanted to see if he would really brake the gold down, i forgot in excitement

I'd be game for a dynamic currency conversion via an NPC. If everyone floods it with Bynes, for example, Coins and Shells would become more valuable and you might hit the point where you'd need 2 bynes or more to get 1 of the other. On the other hand, if you needed a lot of bynes and had more of the other currency, you could possibly get said bynes by taking advantage of the conversion rate. Naturally, you wouldn't be able to deal in fractions of a currency, and some kind of daily/weekly calculations may be prudent, but it's just an idea since it's obvious the players don't value currency equally.

I'd actually like to be able to AH currency, though.

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Originally Posted by Seriha

I'd be game for a dynamic currency conversion via an NPC. If everyone floods it with Bynes, for example, Coins and Shells would become more valuable and you might hit the point where you'd need 2 bynes or more to get 1 of the other. On the other hand, if you needed a lot of bynes and had more of the other currency, you could possibly get said bynes by taking advantage of the conversion rate. Naturally, you wouldn't be able to deal in fractions of a currency, and some kind of daily/weekly calculations may be prudent, but it's just an idea since it's obvious the players don't value currency equally.

I'd actually like to be able to AH currency, though.

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that is the same as i said before right?:

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Originally Posted by Rambus

the only way to have a point of keeping the 3 types and having NPC extange is having a different output that would impose on a fee.

like cream soda said, in RL when you exchange currencies in RL the value changes and there is a fee that currency exchanges impose, so doing something like 10 byne = 6 bronze= 8 shells would reflect a bit more realism. and the exchange rates can be flexible depending how much people trade them for.

like if a lot of people did 10 byne for 6 bronze, it would go to 10 byne to 5 bronze and so on till people stopped mass trading, then it would go up and start all over, like in RL.

hmm you know, I really like this idea that you and soda inspired me to write

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AH currency? no no no no

Only read the first few pages, so not surprised someone else brought it up. :P

And I'm sorry, but not everyone has the luxury to set up a bazaar in Rolan-mart. If you're someone in the resale market worried about losing their niche? Too bad.

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Originally Posted by CumDumpster

I vote O.pieces!

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Andy, Tear. I miss you. How you been, son?

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Originally Posted by Chocobits

Actually I'm all for the "Please delete Relics SE" movement, if nothing more than for comments like this.

Instead of a handful of people crying about their underpowered Relics while somehow still wanting to lord them over others.. how about we make Relics content that is available for more people, lessen its gil/emotional/epeen value, and then gather all the woodworkers for every server together and finally build a bridge for current Relic holders to get over the b.hurt...

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{yes, please}

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Originally Posted by CumDumpster

I'm doing great!

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Out of curiosity, why DO you make so many accounts? lol

I still do not see how any of you can say the currencies have different value. They have no value at all. They have GIL value when you bazaar them only because every LS wanted an Aegis PLD, as one example, many years ago didn't want the Byne currency relics for stage 5. And why would you charge a fee to exchange currency? You don't pay a fee to exchange 99+1 currency into a 100 Byne, M Silver, Jade do you? I sure don't.

You guys are still missing the point I'm trying to make that there is a STORY in the game. Each city had their own currency. Why would you take the original game storyline and delete the content? Make zero sense to me. At least being able to exchange currency 1 to 1 for another type you balance out the player made gil value on the currency.

In the end the currency was originally put into the game for relic weapons and relic gear upgrades. Not to bazaar and make gil off of because people are to lazy to find other means of making gil. Besides now that Abyssea is out everything in the game is free so now all the people that cried about having no gil for the better gear in the game can stop. People that do dynamis just to sell the currency for gil wouldn't want a change like this because they cant spam Sandy anymore for the highest player valued currency. At least being able to exchange keep the story of the game the same. No matter how you put it 18000 currency is still 18000 currency when your relic is done. Doesn't matter what type of currency it is because there is no GAME value on currency there is only PLAYER value.

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Originally Posted by Seriha

Only read the first few pages, so not surprised someone else brought it up. :P

And I'm sorry, but not everyone has the luxury to set up a bazaar in Rolan-mart. If you're someone in the resale market worried about losing their niche? Too bad.

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same reason I dislike the idea of AH in FFXIV, I like the people interaction.

but I find it funny you are telling me "too bad" on something that did not exist for 8 years.

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Originally Posted by Unleashhell

I still do not see how any of you can say the currencies have different value. They have no value at all. They have GIL value when you bazaar them only because every LS wanted an Aegis PLD, as one example, many years ago didn't want the Byne currency relics for stage 5. And why would you charge a fee to exchange currency? You don't pay a fee to exchange 99+1 currency into a 100 Byne, M Silver, Jade do you? I sure don't.

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supplay and damand, there is like 40% more spent with o. pieces then the other 2 types.

So if you minic that even with a extange NPC it would change depending how much people make a trade. Price change at guilds depending how meny people buy something so this can be the same way.

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Originally Posted by Rambus

supplay and damand, there is like 40% more spent with o. pieces then the other 2 types.

So if you minic that even with a extange NPC it would change depending how much people make a trade. Price change at guilds depending how meny people buy something so this can be the same way.

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But that's the player value put on the currency. Supply and demand has nothing to do with that because if you can exchange currency there will be no supply and demand, because people can exchange what they don't want for what they do want. Making the player based prices in bazaars even for all types of currency. If you need 18000 currency for a relic no matter how you try to figure it, you still need 18000 in the end. My point is to balance things out, we are still thinking O Bronze (final stage) relics are still the best and some aren't anymore. SE has made a bunch of relics worth getting that were not as desired before. Spharai H2H is a perfect example of this. We choose to say O Bronze is the most desired only because years ago they were. The game has changed with how good / bad relics have become.

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Originally Posted by Unleashhell

But that's the player value put on the currency. Supply and demand has nothing to do with that because if you can exchange currency there will be no supply and demand, because people can exchange what they don't want for what they do want. Making the player based prices in bazaars even for all types of currency. If you need 18000 currency for a relic no matter how you try to figure it, you still need 18000 in the end. My point is to balance things out, we are still thinking O Bronze (final stage) relics are still the best and some aren't anymore. SE has made a bunch of relics worth getting that were not as desired before. Spharai H2H is a perfect example of this. We choose to say O Bronze is the most desired only because years ago they were. The game has changed with how good / bad relics have become.

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relics take slightly different amounts.
18 000-3 000, 17 500- 3 000 , so on.

and i am talking now, there are different dmands for currency because all the good/ plupluar weapons take up a high amount in broze. a lot of relics that are made ether have the stage 4 take bronze or the stage 5 take bronze.

2 relics even take more bronze then that, shield uses bronze in all stages and bow is mostly bronze. for bow it is stage 2 bronze, stage 3 bronze, stage 4 shells, and stage 5 bronze.

sandy and bastok are both easy zones, windy being a bit harder ( some hate windy i actally like going there) and yet at times people sell bronze tripple what bynes are worth.

the game has not really changed what relics are good or bad, no relic became better ( vs one anther), some got worse ( sheild mainly) because of MDT caps.

staff is still useless, G-horn got a bit weaker in pracitliy then before even though the 90 is +3, really needs more.

anyways take those options with a grain of salt, i really do not want to debate what relics got crapper and such. What this thread is about is NPC exchanging currency. I think it should be like how guilds change prices in order to keep balance. If it stays 1 to 1 then people would just spam bastok or sandy and make the gob exchange it. Once this happens you can keep increasing the amount you need to trade till people stop doing it and have a reason to do other zones. (I/E infulcing the supply and demand)

day 1 person gets 100 byne, give it to a gob for 100 bronze, day 2 person gets 100 byne and gets 90 bronze, day 3 person gives 100 byne for 80 bronze... etc...

people keep doing this ill keep going down, then people will do other zones till there is some balance. the market will balance itself.

I really do not understand why people want it all one type, what is the point? it does more bad then good, ill make some zones want to spam to much

[OP] here! I haven't check in on this thread in awhile but yall have been busy.

So, SE has said that adjustments are going to be made to relics to power them up (although they'll probably do it in some obtuse way that ends up not really mattering much). That's a step in the right direction.

I like the exchange idea. As others have (repeatedly) said, the different currencies are tied into the storyline and it doesn't really make sense to remove content. I am, however, all for streamlining content. Following the logic of removing the level caps for mission battlefields and lowering the difficulty of the fights (I wasn't a fan of this btw but I do appreciate how it helped casual players), I think if we're making some content more available for all players, we should make all content more available for all players. At this point, we can go 1-90 in a day, get a fully upgraded Empyrean in 2 days. Why not lower the requirements and hassle of obtaining a relic?

First off, I think that instead of there being discrepancies in the total coin amount of each relic, it should be a flat amount of coins that is the same for each relic. It may vary on the the number of coins per stage from relic to relic, but the total number should be the same. The result would be more available coinage, flexibility in picking zones and stabilizing the price of currency. Supply and demand will implode if everyone tries to exchange the currently undervalued coins for the currently overvalued coins to bazaar, and that will clog that currency and cause undercutting and then the trend will shift to another currency. Don't like the price of the coins you need? Buy a cheaper version and exchange, or wait a week~.

This all achieves what my original intent was: making content more available, and lessening the exploitation of players upgrading more currently in-demand relics.