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Karbuncle
I can safely say If i made a thank you thread and came back to nothing but more complaints about people whining the game sucks because their favorite jobs aren't updated or their favorite event isn't designed how they wanted, I'd probably just ignore it.
So you would do the stupid thing? If everyone is yelling at you that they are angry and do not like the game for blah reason and you do nothing but ignore it you will only serve to alienate those players, and prove you did not truly listen to them in the first place has he has just claimed. Also, unless the majority of people are doing this, it would be no issue anyways, so its not as though he would be alienating some small part of the players, but rather, it seems the majority of players would be ignored, again, meaning he is doing just the opposite of what he said he is doing.
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I'll acknowledge my argument is kinda pointless cause its attempting to reach people who feel fully justified hating this man and will continue to find reason to do so despite how much the games improved since he's joined. Maybe not all of us agree on this point, and maybe the success isn't in Subs, but I'll maintain this is because FFXI players are among the worst in the MMO community for accepting new things (sorry!), but the game is a lot more accessible to everyone, with the only real hindrance being the communities ability to welcome less than perfection. Which is our fault not so much as its theirs, cause I can tell you with fact you can beat Tojil and etc without Perfect weapons... the LS I was in did it before they added I.lv stats like Skill+ and not a single one had Oatix... And I've seen it 8-manned.
While all of this is true, there are some things they do very poorly. The game is more accessible in one respect, while they are still as vague and unhelpful with things as ever before, leading only to community sites for information, expecting us to have nothing more than other players to get our info from. I accept some new things, I hate many others, part of why new is bad for this specific game is that those who like old, not people who are ignorant and hate it for being new, but they just flat out do not like new, could come here for old. Now, this is becoming new, so where does one go for old? The game had a unique aspect to it of being different, many people didn't like how, but it was different, so it worked for it, if you make an old game like every new game there will never be much reason to play it, if you make an old game stay old, it might continue to live on as an old game, for those who like them.
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I can speak with 100% certainty half the stuff suggested here, even stuff I've backed like SMN/THF/RDM updates or Campaign updates, Is in majority either looked down upon or laughed at as pointless by other forum communities, and people I play with online. There are some who wouldn't mind it, but very few who say they'd support putting man hours too it as a priority.
I'm sure, this is a close minded player base after all. I basically had to argue with a leader 2 nights ago to let me go RDM/SCH as a DD to Yorcia Skirmish, because he claimed my RDM would never out DD his DRK or MNK. After finally getting him to accept me I ended up out DDing every person in the Skirmish easily because I was 1~2 shooting nearly everything. Because of his close minded approach to my RDM, thinking as most do, RDM is worthless, magic damage sucks, WAR DRK SAM MNK are the only real DDs, blah blah blah, he almost made his run fail, because without me, they were not killing mobs as fast as they popped up. The problem is that they hardly do any of these updates anyways. If they fixed RDM's flaws, maybe people would bring one more often, maybe it would not be getting replaced by SCH once again, right now, in all content RDM has been good for in SoA, mind you that's limited to Skirmish and Delve Boss runs. But rather than do that kind of update, they make new events which only make their old events not worth doing, which is creating a cycle of wasted time.
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Point being, they listen to our suggestions, they just mostly suck or not everyone wants them and they're going in order of priority, and while they may seem "urgent" to you or me, they aren't, which is the bottom line.
How many people asked for Skirmish gear to smash Delve rather than be on par? How many asked for more completely random augments for an event? How many asked for hour long battles that take more than 50 people to take down? They listen to some suggestions, yes, but it seems to have almost no priority factor. How many THFs will really use marksmanship weapons? How many RDMs will really even be allowed to use daggers in parties without RDM melee being upgraded at some point? How hot were these topics even in their own forums? Yet, here they come, we will be getting them in the fall update. What about redoing merits? Making TH mean something in more events? Making THF have more of a use than simply TH? Fixing RDM melee by adding more decent gear? RDM unique spells or Haste II? These are things which were much more popular and requested many more times by the players, but they never happen, yet, Marksmanship & Daggers are on the way. How is that priority?
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They're doing a fine job and while a lot of us can disagree with the design direction, when it comes to minor things we have to understand we're not the center of the universe, and despite having this Official forum hub, not all suggestions here are equal in the eyes of the FFXI community and this is not the single source of their information, by their own admission they do read other forums to get a rough idea of peoples reactions and such or for leisure heck if i know, this is just their hub where they can respond.
I agree they do a good job in some things, but I think they do horrible in others. I just wish they seemed to listen to us a bit more on where we want them to take this game rather than only going where they want with most things. We are in a car and they are the driver, if they do not end up going somewhere we want though, we are going to jump out of the car and find someone else going the direction we want if at all possible.