used to long ago but use the pc now since xbox with the red ring of death + beieged problem is a pain to deal with. other then that load times was never a problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ziyyigo-Tipyigo
go move in a rural area and see if you can get some high speed internet. because mostly your only option are Dial up or satellite.Quote:
Originally Posted by Babekeke
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07-25-2013, 06:50 AMnyheen
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07-25-2013, 07:49 AMAselinI have a friend who lives in a small town in South Dakota. No more than 2000 people in his town. Fastest internet service he can get is 3Mbps DSL. And, it's unreliable as the speeds will drop to somewhere around 256kbps during peak usage according to him.Quote:
Originally Posted by nyheen
But, even satellite would be better than dial-up. It isn't quite fast but at least it's still technically broadband internet.
If they are worried about increasing load times when increasing character storage, they should either drop support for 56k dial-up connections (and PS2 support) or implement a server-side storage that can be accessible at any time by the player when in town.
It would be similar to how the auction house and delivery box system are separate servers themselves connected to the actual World servers. Sure, loading items from such a system would be slower just as accessing items from Delivery Box is now, but such a system would never be limited by the client's hardware as it'll just load a preset maximum of items into memory. And, to access more items just shift to another page or "table" of items. It can list maybe a maximum of 80 items into memory before listing another 80. And, there shouldn't technically be any maximum limit to what you can store as it'll be server-side. If they can implement a separate server for such a system like they do now for Delivery Box and Auction House, it should hopefully side-step a lot of the issues we have currently.
As someone on the FFXIAH forum mentioned, it'll be the equivalent of a "bank" for the players which surprises me that an MMO such as FFXI doesn't have one.
So, in other words:
Character -> Key item with unique access to server-side storage -> Server-side storage (Unlimited)
Server-side storage (Unlimited) -> List 80 items maximum per page -> Character retrieves from or stores to server-side storage
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07-25-2013, 08:29 AMnyheenit took over 2 years in my area to get dsl.(2Mbps). now dial or satellite? when it comes to online games dial would be the best because of the low ping, only down side is the slow download speed,Quote:
Originally Posted by Aselin
now with satellite.. it sucks lot with the high ping rate, and on top of that most to all satellites got that dumb Fair Access Policy so mostly you will be caped at dial speeds if you download over 700MB a day. maybe it changed now but it still around that and it was over priced, but other then that download speed is faster.
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07-25-2013, 11:07 AMVold
Here we go with the broadband/56k debate. You know, back when this game was in development and release, it was a pretty smart decision to go with the dial up connection cap. But this is 2013. It's basically been like 12 years since they made the 56k decision. I can't believe cutting off dial up users will hurt them any more than cutting off PS2 FFXI users across the globe outside of Japan. If 14 can go BB only, so can FFXI. Just throwing that out there.
I know all too well what it's like getting the shaft because of my location. It's a miracle that I have DSL at all out here, though I might as well not have it at all now that most of my neighborhood is oversubscribed to our DSL boxes, and not a frick was given by AT&T since they can't just install their crap Uverse here so we can be oversubscribed to that instead. A 56k connection would actually be superior for me right now when it comes to FFXI. -
07-25-2013, 03:04 PMFrankReynolds
There aren't really any popular time popped NMs any more. What exactly is the point of the cap now? I mean this company puts out forum posts saying "We only expect a few extremely well geared organized groups to be able to complete this new content we just sold you, but you are all going to pay for it..." and then they are worried that the 3% of the world population who are still stuck on dial up might experience longer load times in between zones? WTF?
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07-25-2013, 05:52 PMKristalWill this be... the Mog Shed? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Camate
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07-29-2013, 08:02 AMsaevel
I could totally go for an inventory pool in the MH that has 200+ capacity but is only check-able when your inside your MH.
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07-30-2013, 01:10 AMBobbinTWe actually have that. It's called Mog porter. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by saevel
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07-30-2013, 01:31 AMFrankReynolds... And doesn't require purchase of some external device and or 10 million gil worth of junk items.Quote:
Originally Posted by saevel
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07-30-2013, 05:14 PMKristalI think the limit of 80+80 still applies, so any new container would be capped at 80. Although the number of containers could be limitless (within reason). Unless ofcourse the devs are actually working on a way to fit 100 items in containers (and thus support 100+100 items in memory), which would be damn cool. (+60 inventory on person alone, with another +60 in moghouse. We'd be satisfied for at least a week!)Quote:
Originally Posted by saevel
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07-31-2013, 08:33 PMSharnak
In the case is very trouble to make new space, How about to let's player can access to other char in same account's storage directly with no need to sent item via del.box? like that ppl can expend they storage space via make new char. also still can apply same rule on del.box to direct access storage. Is that possible?
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07-31-2013, 11:10 PMsaevelRead their statement again. The 160 item cap is due to the PS2 only have 32MB of system memory. That 32MB must fit everything the client needs to do at that moment in time, this includes your active inventory and one secondary inventory. To give more then 160 total slots they would need to remove something from memory first, unfortunately there simply isn't anything left to remove from active memory. That is why they mentioned the mog house, inside your MH there are many things that simply will never happen. You can't cast magic, use JA or WS's so all those animation index's are instantly free to be re-purposed into inventory slots. You won't be able to see that inventory outside your MH due to those animation index's needing to be present but inside the MH is easily doable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kristal
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08-01-2013, 12:32 AMRusticThey'd have to load the character to do it, so it wouldn't get around the load time issues. Though it'd be awesome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharnak
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08-01-2013, 01:10 AMFrankReynoldsIt Would be cool if they could just unload those JA / Spell animations whenever we accessed it and then reload them after. It's not like seeing them is necessary while you are moving items around.Quote:
Originally Posted by saevel
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08-01-2013, 11:46 PMKristalOh, I understand that. But they are changing a lot of things, and I thought they were going to overhaul the memory usage as well. Simplifying the item display would free up resources, would it not?Quote:
Originally Posted by saevel
Ofcourse, if we're talking about storage options that aren't immediately accessible, it's bound to be something more like the various NPC storages.
If only the last of the PS2's would die already....