Invitation to Plasm Farming

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Originally Posted by ShadePUP

I been wondering is PUP a Viable job for the new end game content. Delve included in that.:confused:

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Its not the best job for EG, but with proper gearing it works very well. Before one of PUPs greatest issues was its Automaton was not really all to great on damage, I mean it helped, but when it comes to damage we have recently seen way to many things that kill it off fast like over powered NMs, and had no way to buff the thing while we had things like food and temps. The biggest thing that separates a PUP from a MNK is obviously your Automaton, but with it so underpowered, it really hurt the job, and made it somewhat disappointing.

If you are not aware, there is a new Animator out, called the Alternator, this thing completely removes that issue with the job. This thing gives your Automaton so many buffs its insane, not only does it give your Automaton +70 to every single stat, but on top of that it gets a ton of Attack, Accuracy, Ranged Attack, Ranged Accuracy, Magic Attack, Magic Accuracy, Evasion, and possibly even more. This thing comes from Delve, which can be a little hard to get into, but once you have it, it completely makes up for all of PUPs downfalls it had when compared to other jobs for the most part. Between this, and a good pair of Rigors from Delve, a PUP can be a very effective job, and a very viable job to use for the content. The only issue in all of this is it does require at least 1 item from Delve to be so effective, the H2H are very important for your own damage and Accuracy, but the Automaton is basically redesigned by this piece of gear so much that it is easily more important in the overall scheme of things.

To answer easily, yes, it is a viable job, but you will need to put quite a lot of work into it for it to be accepted as it is. PUP is like a few other jobs where people have a bad tendency to shun it, and look elsewhere, doubting its abilities, even with these new things helping the job so much. If you need any specific assistance with gear sets or something of the sort just ask, or talk to me in game since your on Phoenix! ^_^

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Ive decided to remove my guide.

Ive decided to remove my guide.

For Healing magic I hear casting cure on undead mobs is an effective way to skill it up as its calculated in a similar sense as elemental magic for the purposes of skill up.

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Originally Posted by Rekin

For Healing magic I hear casting cure on undead mobs is an effective way to skill it up as its calculated in a similar sense as elemental magic for the purposes of skill up.

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This is correct. All skills can be skilled up more easily and more quickly when targeting NPCs, cures for instance when targeting yourself or party members are not going to give as many skill ups as if you cured someone's NPC partner, or an undead. This also counts for SMNs, while using Blood Pacts to buff yourself while summoning over and over again will give skill ups, the amount is limited, where as performing Blood Pacts on enemies will get you more skills in less time. Other things like Enhancing Magic can be done the same, however, due to the fact you can not cast Enhancing Magic on enemies, you have to do it a rather roundabout way, you must cast protect on someone's NPC fellow or a NPC in something where there are many NPCs running around in combat you can target.

Ive decided to remove my guide.

Due to being heavily criticized by Karah Sparthos slaxxx tamoa Nebo
Asymptotic

Ive decided to remove my guide. And yes you gave me a reason to never come back to FFXI.

Ive decided to remove my guide.

Ive decided to remove my guide.

its wonderful do go on :)

Ive decided to remove my guide.

Ive decided to remove my guide.

Ive decided to remove my guide.

Ok now tell me how to get a Linkshell that does Abyssea content enough to be able to get all those things. Form one with new players to suffer for months to reach delve in 2015?

You point very nice things for newbies but you don't address the problem itself. Getting AF3+2 for WHM/COR/BRD and an empryreal instrument is basically impossible nowadays. Not even going to mention about being a DD without delve weapon.

So as an "invitation to plasm farming" this topic is basically useless. Because getting things done in abyssea nowadays is basically impossible at a decent rate and by the time you've finished that nobody will be doing delve so players that were not fortunate to participate in delve release will be permanently 1 expansion behind others.


This is what Square Enix has to address. Because if it depends on players to help newbies get geared the best we will have will be threads like this teaching us the obvious that any average player can see on ffxiwiki. I'm sorry for being rude but it is pretty much what this thread is.

Ive decided to remove my guide.

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Originally Posted by Spectreman

Ok now tell me how to get a Linkshell that does Abyssea content enough to be able to get all those things. Form one with new players to suffer for months to reach delve in 2015?

You point very nice things for newbies but you don't address the problem itself. Getting AF3+2 for WHM/COR/BRD and an empryreal instrument is basically impossible nowadays. Not even going to mention about being a DD without delve weapon.

So as an "invitation to plasm farming" this topic is basically useless. Because getting things done in abyssea nowadays is basically impossible at a decent rate and by the time you've finished that nobody will be doing delve so players that were not fortunate to participate in delve release will be permanently 1 expansion behind others.


This is what Square Enix has to address. Because if it depends on players to help newbies get geared the best we will have will be threads like this teaching us the obvious that any average player can see on ffxiwiki. I'm sorry for being rude but it is pretty much what this thread is.

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He does put in the +2 gears can be soloed, but the chance is you have to level a job you might not like playing, one of the major flaws I see trying to catch up in this game. Fortunately the producer of the game has posted http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...086#post449086 that he realizes the gap between newer players and older players is far to wide, and thanks to the "solo it yourself" attitude many old timers have, that gap is getting wider. Hopefully he can find a good system that will allow newer players to have an easier time getting caught up. Because if it's left to the playerbase now, the game will continue to loose older players without being able to get new/returning players to stay for very long.

Ive decided to remove my guide.

Ive decided to remove my guide.

Ive decided to remove my guide.

Due to being heavily criticized by Karah Sparthos slaxxx tamoa Nebo
Asymptotic

Ive decided to remove my guide. And yes you gave me a reason to never come back to FFXI.

Dear Daemon,
Thankyou for going to so much trouble & spending so much of your own time to put together what is in my very humble opinion an extremely helpful guide that I'm sure will assist many people out there who are 'lost' as to what to do to improve their characters/jobs & even possibly their chances of obtaining some better gear & weapons.
I do hope that this thread will indeed be preserved by Admin & any negative posts kept out or deleted.
Good job Sir !

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You seem to focus on the idea that these top of the line players haven't considered all their options. How the hell do you think they made their optimum strategies? magic? No they did so through cold calculations of what the monsters did and the restraints placed upon them in order to achieve victory in the quickest, cleanest manner.

Oh the devs patched it so that the strategy doesn't work? Doesn't matter, those people will just find the next most effective strategy. For them battles are like a puzzle that bites back when handled incorrectly, so they prod and prod until they find what works. I'm sure these very same people also have back up strategies as well. And don't forget these very same people are the ones who come up with the best means to use newer jobs such as Geo and Run. Most recently RUN has been gaining some attention due to its specific usefulness against naakuals. Whilst it may be subpar to trash to previous mobs the devs have catered their creature to MAKE RUN useful.

Was just in a delve that whiped in under 5min. Upon inspectng the whms, their combined cure potentcy total was +55% and that was only because one of them had a n00ble. That aside...


Deamon, you are missing one major point that a vast majority of people do not or refuse to understand. Which is, in this day and age, you need to level other jobs in order to get gear for the jobs that you do want. It is a sad truth, yes, but a truth none the less. Having trouble getting empyrean for your WAR because it is the only job that you have? Go level THF for tanking/TH, or BLM so you are not hard up for procs. Reverses are the same too. All you have is BLM, sometime people that you fine have no tank jobs and vise versa. The same aplies to delve. To people's dismay there are a number of jobs that, due to the design, just have no place in delve. Leveling is a simple feat now. 1-99 can be accomplished within a day and should not take more then a week, even if you have little to no time in which to do so. I advise not to stop to skill up as skilling up is far easier and vastly more accessible after one has leveled.

Ive decided to remove my guide.

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Originally Posted by Rekin

You seem to focus on the idea that these top of the line players haven't considered all their options. How the hell do you think they made their optimum strategies? magic? No they did so through cold calculations of what the monsters did and the restraints placed upon them in order to achieve victory in the quickest, cleanest manner.

Oh the devs patched it so that the strategy doesn't work? Doesn't matter, those people will just find the next most effective strategy. For them battles are like a puzzle that bites back when handled incorrectly, so they prod and prod until they find what works. I'm sure these very same people also have back up strategies as well. And don't forget these very same people are the ones who come up with the best means to use newer jobs such as Geo and Run. Most recently RUN has been gaining some attention due to its specific usefulness against naakuals. Whilst it may be subpar to trash to previous mobs the devs have catered their creature to MAKE RUN useful.

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As for your post sorry for the late reply, Im not saying every strategy works for every single occasion and yes we know that alot of content has resist, completely resist etc. However people do not know how these things will work if people do not go out and try to experiment with them.

The NA parties and JP parties I play in are totally different. The way I see NA parties it seems people favor certain jobs and setups. The JP parties ive been in seem to use a variety of jobs for different reasons and setups are always different. Im not saying no one is right or wrong but different culture with different groups of people with different thinking allows me to see that there is a variety of different ways to play strategies.

What you missed on that post that i did not include was someone stated that "raise is useless.." I stated if thats the case why even do we bother to hunt or pay millions of gil to buy it? Arise alone is worth it for the 3 minute unweaken and full HP at weaken status with Reraise III, but the person was arguing that he can just HP to town and waypoint back in a 20 minute delve boss party. I said its flaws like that SE will come around to changing and then people will have to go back and re-learn how to do things the right way. But anyways my point and your point maybe we are having a conflict of misunderstanding and are based on totally different things.

I was questioning the person on how they do their strategy if they are purposely home pointing and saying that raise is uselss?

I wanted to give the example to others that they should learn each others job abilities and know what can be used and what has its limitations because thats how team work and strategies can be made. Im never saying that people will always succeed but it does take a lot of failure in order to learn success. Whether people want to follow other peoples strategies, or try to do strategies on thier own, people should try everything and find what works best for them.

Daemon,

I have read everything you have posted thus far and have found it very informative. I see that you contribute SCH as your main job. As my main mage job (SCH) on Asura, I have come to the conclusion that I will never see a mega boss fight as my SCH as the shouts for Tojil for example say "Veteran SCH (Stun Set)". Being that most of my time on SCH and doing events with my Linkshell, being /BLM is something I never went as unless I forgot to change my sub.

What gear should I be lookin at having for this "Stun Set". I am hoping that it isn't a whole lot as SCH is a very inventory intensive job where I am carrying

Weapons

• Soothsayer's Staff
• Chatoyant Saff
• Kirin's Pole (unagumented)
• Surya's Staff +2
• Siriti

Total: 5

Sub

• Bugard strap +1
• Avalon Shield
• Fulcio Grip
• Mephitis Grip

Total: 4

Ammo

• Incantor Stone
• Clarus Stone
• Sturm's Report
• Savant's Treatsie

Total: 4

Head

• Savant's Bonnet +2
• Scholar's Mortarboard
• Selenian Cap (Int +2, MAB +2, Fast Cast +2, hHP +3)
• Teal Chapeau
• Argute Mortarboard

Total: 5

Neck

• Stoicheion Medal
• Beak Necklace
• Enlightened Chain
• Colossus's Torque
• Savant's Chain

Total: 5

Earrings

• Moonshade Earring (MAB +4, Occ. max magic acc. +3%)
• Savant's Earring
• Magnetic Earring
• Lifestorm Earring
• Psystorm Earring
• Hecate's Earring
• Antivenom Earring
• Psystorm Earring

Total: 8

Body

• Bokwus Robe
• Argute Gown
• Errant Houppelande
• Savant's Gown +2
• Teal Saio
• Royal Redingote (MAB +4, Fast Cast +5)

Total: 6

Hands

• Savant's Bracers +2
• Teal Cuffs
• Bokwus Gloves (MAB path)
• Argute Bracers +1

Total: 4

Rings

• Snow Ring x2

Total: 2

Back

• Searing cape
• Twilight Cape
• Swith Cape

Total: 3

Waist

• Aswang Sash
• Hierarch Belt
• Penitent's Rope
• Korin Obi
• Hyorin Obi
• Rairin Obi
• Anrin Obi
• Goading Belt

Total: 8

Legs

• Savant's Pants +1
• Teal Slops
• Tatsumaki Sitagoromo (MAB +4, Mag. crit hit dmg +10%)
• Orvail Pants
• Scholar's Pants

Total: 5

Feet

• Savant's Loafers +2
• Argute Loafers
• Teal Pigaches
• Sapientia Sabots
• Desert Boots

Total: 5

TOTAL GEAR: 64

With this gear, I believe I'm well off from cap on my enhancing magic for embrava (gawd only knows what I'm missing still). As you can probably tell, I've tailored my SCH more for nuking purposes than anything. With the information of what to have for my "Stun Set", point me in a direction for gear that I should be replacing (the rings I already know... just need to be able to afford them).

If this is of any insight to my gear swaps: http://guildwork.com/characters/ffxi...agan/spellcast

I appreciate any insight you are willing to provide me. Thanks you.

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@Demonicpagan:

For a stun set you want to go for recast reduction and magic accuracy. You'll need the TotM staff Apajamas II, at least for high end content where the monsters are likely to resist.

You can check this out to get an idea of what kind of gear to aim for (need to scroll down a bit): http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/32...cation#1967961

Hope that helps some.

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Originally Posted by Demonicpagan

What gear should I be lookin at having for this "Stun Set". I am hoping that it isn't a whole lot as SCH is a very inventory intensive job where I am carrying

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Quite possibly the best possible setup is:
Ninurta's Sash
Mephitis Grip
Nahtirah Hat
Orunmila's Torque
Orvail Pants
Hedera Cotehardie
Maquette Ring
Prolix Ring
Psystorm Earring
Apamajas II
Repartie Gloves
Aureole
Argute Loafers +2
Lifestorm Earring
Swith Cape +1

Some people use Witful Belt instead and Goading Belt is an easy swap, the Enmity shouldn't be an issue if all you're doing is stunning.

Once you check the stats you'll see the focus on the set is essentially Magic Accuracy and recast reduction (through Fast Cast and Haste). I'm not sure what you're able to get or not able to get but as you mentioned not being able to get in for boss clears as you aren't a "veteran stun gun SCH" I'll for now just suggest alternate head options: Hyaline Hat, Nares Cap, Xux Hat, Mor. Coronal +1, or Magavan Beret.

Thank you all for your insight. I'll go through and see how to obtain some of that gear. From first look though, obtaining the Repartie Gloves and Aureole probably would never happen. I've never done or know anyone that would do AV for the drop item for the Aureole and Legion is nonexistant on Asura. Being I've never been in a Legion run, I wouldn't even know where to begin to try and attempt at shouting to get people to assist. The Xux hat... another tough one with the limited ways of getting the statue parts to enter a skirmish.

Repartie can be bought off AH. The issue might be that Legion is unpopular content right now.

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Originally Posted by Demonicpagan

The Xux hat... another tough one with the limited ways of getting the statue parts to enter a skirmish.

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Xux Hat drops from the Wildskept giant lady-bee, actually.

If it helps at all, every single level 99 Fast Cast hat has exactly the same amount of Fast Cast. So you can just pick whichever one looks the most obtainable or least hideous or has the best secondary stats on it.

Thanks for the correction, SpankWustler. I keep getting Skirmish and Wildskeeper Reive drop items mixed up. Still unlikely I'll see it. Don't think I'll ever see 100k bayld to get the KI to do one. Always off doing other things and not out doing reives to earn any.

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:( that sucks i wanted to look through again

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So you attempt to help those in need, those who have no need point out some flaws in things, and in return you completely destroy all information both helpful and otherwise in the entire thread, thus helping no one outside of the original few in the end? Man I really hope you understand how little sense you just made with everything you just did.

Because rather than understanding my motive behind helping others. Rather than see that I'm suggesting that it takes certain gear to help you obtain other gear. People rather state that "I don't know what I'm talking about" and instead tell others to just look up gear sets off FFXIAH and wiki because real experiance and knowledge has no value. Statistics and Mechanics overrule experiance therefore my guide has no purpose.

And because I don't want to mislead others as these people said. This is the purpose of eliminating my work.

And yes the criticism was that bad. Enough for me to cancel my subscription and leave this game. I am only 1 less person to care about in the community.

And for those of you who did read my guide and found it helpful. I truly apologize but I wasn't getting enough feedback on how my guide was helping. Thank you and good luck.

Due to not wanting to further continue any debates, arguments or negative comments of hatred, I hope the devs will lock this post and let it die.