FFXIV A Realm Reborn

Weirdly enough the FFXI "crowd" seem to be the hardest to please when it comes to XIV. I know it's a different game but it's still a final fantasy and the atmosphere of final fantasy is still there. I played XI for so long because of the community and from what I've seen so far, the XIV community is mostly just as friendly as the XI player base.

There are a lot of changes to XIV and no it's not a XI clone like a lot of people wanted but that's actually a good thing in most ways. There are things that I think should copy over from FFXI, but overall it's got fantastic potential. I think anyone saying they won't play it without even trying it should give it a go, because you'll probably be pleasantly surprised even without the jobs you love (there are variants of a lot of XI jobs in XIV, but they have different names and every job has different mechanics regardless of name). XIV is a different game, but it's only bad if you go in expecting it to be an exact remake of XI. If you go in expecting a brand new, exciting mmo then you will probably find it much more enjoyable.

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Originally Posted by Demon6324236

Yeah but the melee aspect is part of what I love most about RDM, I built my only Relic and Emp for RDM on FFXI and have always done my best to melee when possible. Taking that part out of the job just kind of kills it for me in a way. It would not really feel like my favorite job, just a cheap knockoff, like a SCH or something similar probably, and in that case, I would probably end up playing SCH since it was announced recently I thought.

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SCH was announced recently but is not playable in the beta yet, similar to SMN and the starting class for both, Arcanist. I'm glad about this actually. Those are the classes that interest me the most, so I'd like to save the best for last, or in this case, until the official release.

Demon I think you should give this a try. The second paragraph of Mayoyama's post is what might interest you. The skill system structure is similar to Tactics. Instead of one subjob, you can assign skills from any other class you've leveled to your main class. Although, there are some limitations based on class. Depending on how those limitations play out, you might just be able to create your melee mage by maining GLD (the sword wielder) and assigning some spells to it from other classes.

FFXIV is a miracle of a game. Most of what I love about it has already been posted here. Rather than repeating that I'll give some personal facts:

1. For the first time in 17 years I spent two weekends playing a "new" video game for 24 hours straight. And last weekend I didn't even know the beta was shutting down on Sunday.

2. I never recommended XI to a friend that hadn't tried it already. I'm telling everyone I know who loves Final Fantasy to try XIV.

3. I never listened to a FFXI music track outside of the game on purpose. I have tracks from ARR favorited on YouTube to listen to at work (all official of course!).

4. When playing ARR alone, I stop regularly to take a screenshot or soak in the BGM. I have over 200 shots now, and many are used as wallpapers. When I was on PS2, I never reached the screenshot limit for XI.

5. People are complaining about a simplistic battle system, but just on THM I had a heck of a lot more fun in the early levels than playing BLM 1-10 in XI. I do hope it becomes as complex as XI in later levels but for the only levels I can compare, ARR is far better.

6. A good friend at work was on the beta for XIV 1.0. He decided from that to not buy it. He and I both reserved our collectors editions of XIV ARR last weekend.

Don't fall for any of the political, philosophical, economic or borderline religious junk that plagues this forum concerning XIV. If I see a game I think looks phenomenal, I'm going to sign up for a free beta or demo no matter what baggage it has. If it's fun I'll buy it. If it stops being fun for whatever reason SE has to make it that way, I'll cancel and move on then. For now, XIV feels like a Final Fantasy game I can play with friends. I would have never described XI that way.

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I most definitely plan to try FFXIV, and I will probably love it, I just meant to say that my only problem with the game as of right now is the lack of RDM, I like the idea you can get somewhat close though.

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Originally Posted by Alpheus

If anything the job class Musketeer might be XIV's RDM. Well it's melee side at least (that fencing thing).

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You forget that real life musketeers were ALL about ranged combat and had the sword as a last resort if they found themselves in melee. The way archers had knives/axes as a means of self defense.

Musketeer should be designed around ranged DPS through firearms (guns, muskets). RDM should stem from Fencer because, well, it makes sense (fanmade pics, but get the point across).

You're right that was a blanket assumption going only by the movies and the (tho different) fact that both RDM and Musketeers had Pimp Hats.

That said I'd imagine them adding Guns w/ the Gunner/Fusilier class.

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Originally Posted by Jaall

Weirdly enough the FFXI "crowd" seem to be the hardest to please when it comes to XIV

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Doesn't help when a 'new' MMO lifts a lot of enemy models directly from FFXI and just slaps a higher resolution texture onto it.

It's also a WoW-clone, which is the polar opposite of how XI plays in terms of deliberate pacing and XP grinding (forced group-play + safe camps vs. grinding 50 quests solo in a zone you can slaughter mobs in 3 seconds with zero fear of death), or at least used to prior to Abyssea giving everyone a taste for easy-mode.

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Originally Posted by Kaisha

Doesn't help when a 'new' MMO lifts a lot of enemy models directly from FFXI and just slaps a higher resolution texture onto it.

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From what I heard it has some music shared with FFXI as well. Both of these things are good to me, not bad, because it means upon starting there will be somewhat a feel of similarity and familiarity to the game, it will not be FFXI, that's for sure, but it will have a familiar feel to it in a way, one which I will embrace and enjoy.

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Originally Posted by Kaisha

It's also a WoW-clone, which is the polar opposite of how XI plays in terms of deliberate pacing and XP grinding (forced group-play + safe camps vs. grinding 50 quests solo in a zone you can slaughter mobs in 3 seconds with zero fear of death), or at least used to prior to Abyssea giving everyone a taste for easy-mode.

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It's definitely not a WoW clone, have you played it? It looks slightly similar to WoW and yes you can kill mobs fairly quick if they're the same level as you, but fight those 2+ levels higher and suddenly it gets to the difficulty level of XI in terms of both damage done to the mob and the damage it does to you. If you consider those with the same level as you being "easy prey" and then those 2 levels higher being "decent challenge" - 3 levels higher being "even match" etc etc then you'll probably realise it's not that easy. EXP works the same too and increases for higher level mobs you fight.

In terms of XP grinding, currently they only have quests once and lets not forget that like XI you can change class/job any time you like on 1 character. Therefore if you finish all quests (they don't give much exp compared to a lot of WoW clones) which you likely will on 1-2 classes then you are left to grind. There are also leve's which seem like an updated version of Fields of Valor that is essentially a varied grind. The only issue I have with leve's are that you have a limit on how many you can do in a certain time frame.

FFXI players looking for an XI clone will forever be unhappy. There will never be another XI and I think that's pretty obvious. XIV however is the next best thing to that and is probably the closest any game will ever come to it, especially with the atmosphere largely being the same. You will still run around seeing Chocobos, Mithra, Taru and Galka etc. XIV is definitely a FF and definitely has the feel of the older FF games which IMO were a lot better than the latest versions.

If, like I said, an XI player goes into XIV, not expecting it to be an XI clone but expecting it to be a whole new game then you will probably be pleasantly surprised. If you go in expecting an XI clone, expect to be disappointed. Also in the same respects if you expect XIV to be like any other mmo then you have it wrong and it will cloud your vision. In reality the only similarities between XIV and WoW are the quest system and UI, but that is essentially what makes an mmo. Just because WoW started that off and made a huge success everyone thereafter blames every game designer of copying WoW but that simply is not the case.

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Originally Posted by Kaisha

Doesn't help when a 'new' MMO lifts a lot of enemy models directly from FFXI and just slaps a higher resolution texture onto it.

It's also a WoW-clone, which is the polar opposite of how XI plays in terms of deliberate pacing and XP grinding (forced group-play + safe camps vs. grinding 50 quests solo in a zone you can slaughter mobs in 3 seconds with zero fear of death), or at least used to prior to Abyssea giving everyone a taste for easy-mode.

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I like how you make it seem like SE using assets already in their library is some kind of sacrilege. Nothing wrong with reusing models.

And the "WoW-clone" remark has been made so often, against so many games, I start to wonder if its bitterness talking.

Yes XIV and today's STANDARD of MMO are polar opposites of XI, for one very good reason: XI is a 11 year old game, with standards that were very different back then. Why the hell would SE waste their time and money creating another game like XI, that is so unforgiving and time-consuming, to a market that is far more catering to a casual crowd than it was 11 years ago.

XI is a wonderful game, I spent 9 years on it, but after trying XIV's concepts, I realized just how much fun I could have at the fraction of the time it takes to do anything on XI. To say that XIV is "easy mode" is laughable. Each game has their own balance of ease and difficulty, the only difference is that the content doesn't take a million years to reap rewards. Remember, time spent does not equal difficulty. XIV has forced party content as well, just at lower levels, yes, you do solo, so that you can have a smooth transition into the game's mechanics and how things work. By level 15 you need a party to progress..so yeah.

I'm not sure why you're so quick to put it down. Is it because it seems to be garnering more attention than XI? I get it, to a lot of people its been a way of life for 10+ yrs, but to dismiss it like this is just silly. You don't have to play it, but you also don't have to drop negativity bombs in some kind of vain hope people will ignore it.

@Demon6324236 They don't use any of the XI music in XIV. What they do use is the usual FF series stuff, like Chocobo, crystal theme etc

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Originally Posted by Vil

@Demon6324236 They don't use any of the XI music in XIV. What they do use is the usual FF series stuff, like Chocobo, crystal theme etc

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I know what he means by the music, it's very different but somehow sounds the same. It's almost as if they've used exactly the same instruments but different compositions, to keep the feel of it being a Final Fantasy game. They're the same type of melodies but slightly altered. It's hard to explain because I've never studied music enough to explain it properly, but I do know I like it!

I spent all day on ff14 on fri at 300am ish to saturday afternoon 4pm till I went to sleep. FF14 is awsome with a few flaws , but is still just a beta. got pugilist to lv16, conjuer lv8 and goldsmithing and weaving to lv 6, and it was fun. I know im going get character wipe after the next beta next week, so i did not waste time with the more advance stuff with the macros pages.

I been on ff11 from one month after the ps2 launch in NA and must say that ff14 is a true final fantasy game again.

First if you do play the beta you need to get to the airship pass so it opens up the rest of the world as fast as you can. The story is such a honor to all of the final fantasy franchises it crazy and there is some voice overs in the cutscenes. I know there many people that probally were never born when ff1 and so on were out. If you ever played all the other final fantasy games this is the real deal finally. I think that why they made it easy at first since many them never played a mmo before. You will even see characters names and stuff related to final fantasy 11 in the game.

Battle system is standard mmo play now , but as you progress it starts to gets much more complex. Were you will need to get your combos off so that you get the effects that they cause on your character.

Questing and the story mission so much more stream lined and do not got to spends hrs looking and following a wiki page. So that nice. It does early on really hold your hands , but some more advance quests, you need to read the quest, because it will not show you were you to go unless do so and so thing first.

One thing nice is all three the city you can do all the quest there like in ff11 ,but those quests give you a lot exp, once there done there are done. but you can choose do them for your main character or should you choose can do them for one of the sub jobs. that you want to use for the main character or just balance all the other jobs out, but once those all done then your back to the old ff11 grinding for xp to leveling jobs. rumor is if do all the quest can get a job to lv50. Then you be forced to have to grind exp for the other jobs. So all need to do is equip the weapon and change it to that job and turn the quest in, but some quests will have level restrictions. So if the job is to low unable to turn it in for that job.

It been a surprise how well they got ff14 going, after the ff14 1.0. Like my one buddy who had 6 jobs lv50 on the 1.0 side told me and my friends .said "The game is not even the same game anymore on 2.0 and much more fluid and even he was learning alot of the newer stuff on the game. And the entire story is different from when he played and he thought it was so cool on how they did the story so far".

They use a remix of the Final Fantasy II battle theme in one of the missions. It was very nicely done and I'm glad to see the guy who wrote the music for Final Fantasy II in 1990 is still writing and remixing his own work in 2013.

I am seriously considering giving this a try and pre-ordering within the next 2 weeks (digital downloads are $50. Nice price there). I've tried all I could to keep believing in XI but catering exclusively to the BG crowd in Adoulin killed whatever hope I had left in the game. Hardly anyone does Abyssea NMs anymore, no one even does reives anymore. The game has tragically become a shell of what it was even 3 years ago.

I said it in my thread and I'll say it again: If S-E takes aspects from Guild Wars 2 and other modern MMOs that do away with the grindfest in favor of more dynamic play, XIV will be a sure-fire hit from launch. I'm very curious what SMN can do in Eorzea. I pray they aren't nearly as scared of overpowering the job there as they have been here. The last thing XIV needs are jobs that are needlessly underpowered.

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Originally Posted by Vil

@Demon6324236 They don't use any of the XI music in XIV. What they do use is the usual FF series stuff, like Chocobo, crystal theme etc

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Yeah I didn't notice any XI tracks, but like you said the series standards are there. I wanted to point out though that not only are they there, but they are redone magnificently.

For example, the character creator has a simply mesmerizing new version of the classic Prelude theme. It made a fabulous first impression on me as I was beginning the game. Also, the first really large solo quest at 14-17 with the high-quality CS and voice acting gives you airship access. The short airship take-off (every time you board) is not only visually stunning (I just kept riding back and forth to watch it!) but it plays a great version of the Pray theme.

I edited my last post because I mistakenly said I never listened to a FF song outside the game before this. That's completely wrong. What I meant was a track from XI. I listened to music outside of games for 1-10, 13 & 13-2, and now some excellent tracks from 14. They do have a FF feel to them like Jaall said, but there's something more grand to these. For better or worse, they almost remind me of epic themes from the old Superman movies, Star Wars and Disney :)

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Originally Posted by Kaisha

Doesn't help when a 'new' MMO lifts a lot of enemy models directly from FFXI and just slaps a higher resolution texture onto it.

It's also a WoW-clone, which is the polar opposite of how XI plays in terms of deliberate pacing and XP grinding (forced group-play + safe camps vs. grinding 50 quests solo in a zone you can slaughter mobs in 3 seconds with zero fear of death), or at least used to prior to Abyssea giving everyone a taste for easy-mode.

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I have a hard time believing you actually played it. First, these aren't just higher res textures, the game is beautifully designed. When I'm taking screenshots, it's not because "there's lots of colors" or it's technically impressive, I'm taking them because they are artistically and creatively beautiful scenes. I can't think of anything from 9 years of XI I would describe that way. Maybe some parts of Sea and Sky, but in XIV I feel like I had access to the beauty of Sky the moment I started, and better at that. I can't imagine what lies ahead.

You can make the beginning of any game easy or hard. My nephew was complaining how easy it was in text before I signed on to beta and when I met up with him I'm watching the guy repeatedly stomp on mobs two levels below him for slow xp :( I proceeded later to show him just how difficult it could be by taking on mobs levels above us, watching for aggro and AOE spam, sleeping appropriately, etc. I had every opportunity to make difficult yet rewarding experience sessions in XIV as I did in XI. The only differences are we didn't need to rest (waste time), had hunting logs to follow that led us all over the map to a variety of mobs, and integrated tons of quests that offered a story and immersion element to simple mob grinding.

Speaking of challenge, the game does a great thing by recommending a minimum level for solo quests, then adding a cap so you can't do it more than a few levels higher than that minimum. People who want a challenge can attempt these at the lowest level and develop a strategy to win after dying one or more times. And these aren't "strategies" that involve ridiculous time requirements, random number generators and forced grouping. They're quite masterfully designed to require each job to use all of its skills to the fullest with good timing. People that don't want to bother with that and just want to see the story can level up a bit and have a much easier time of it.

Mooooaaaaar pictures plz.... wow

"Now then, FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn has adopted the quest form game design that was established by World of Warcraft." - Naoki_Yoshida

In fact if you're in the beta, that's on the forums, and it's not the only mention of copying WoW, so we can throw out the, "Not a WoW" defense now. That said the game is mediocre in every way, except the combat which is pure garbage.

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Originally Posted by Nakts

"Now then, FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn has adopted the quest form game design that was established by World of Warcraft." - Naoki_Yoshida

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A system that works? Oh no!

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In fact if you're in the beta, that's on the forums, and it's not the only mention of copying WoW, so we can throw out the, "Not a WoW" defense now. That said the game is mediocre in every way, except the combat which is pure garbage.

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Mediocre in every way? I disagree, I think if nothing else the Graphics are beyond incredible, are they everything to a game? No, its what I have seen, but still, not mediocre in the least.

The quest system is one aspect of the game, just because they put a system in where quests act like an in game turtorial in the beginning, they have a journal so you can keep track of your quests, with maps and objectives, this is in so people don't have to swap to community sites to get through quests. The system allows people to rush through, not paying much attention to quests, or allow you read and get caught up in the quests. They have systems that allow different types of players to enjoy the game, what is wrong with that? If you dont' want to use shortcuts like skipping cutscenes and teleports, you don't have to, they give you that choice. If you want to think it's a WoW clone, and don't want to give it a chance, that's fine, it's your choice, have fun grinding delve for months on end, waiting for devs to fill a promise that they will fix the broken content they put in, while the rest of us can actually go on and enjoy a game that let's us play the way we want to play.

There is no chance XIV will appeal to everyone, but the majority seem to love it. There are very very little hate posts on the beta forums which I find amazing, because it's a forum! Also the number of "I LOVE THIS GAME!!" threads is insane, and this is only beta! It isn't even close to final release and there's little content compared to what there will be at release yet a lot of people could play just the beta for months and be happy.

They really have created a masterpiece with ARR, and no it wont be for everyone, but in terms of overall satisfaction I think it hits the mark completely and obviously so do a lot of other people. XIV will definitely be a success, and there is nothing any one person can do about it so if you're desperately hanging onto the hope that XIV will fail so XI gets more love, it isn't gonna happen anymore. It had a bad start but they really have redesigned the whole game and it doesn't even seem like the same game compared to how it started.

The questing system may be generic but it works and gets you going from the get go (FFXIV).

This game (FFXI) however, still uses pointless and unhelpful quest / mission descriptions in 2013. I've always hated how the quest and mission dialogue is so vague that one has to look at a 3rd-party website to check what to do next.

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Originally Posted by Jaall

There is no chance XIV will appeal to everyone, but the majority seem to love it. There are very very little hate posts on the beta forums which I find amazing, because it's a forum!

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This is true, they don't even need to moderate it because the haters get hated on!:cool:

What is funny is when people say ff14 is to much like WoW now. They tried to reinvent the wheel and we seen the disaster that turn into for ff14 1.0. I would Rather have a strong playable game with a great storyline and a game that is fun. That ff14 is now offering. Down the road ff14 can easily make it harder and had more game play elements now. When the time comes.

I think there a strong group of players that would love for ff14 to fail, so that all there hard work over the years on ff11. Have not felt wasted, and change is a hard thing for those of us that been on ff11 for the last 10 + yrs or it just time to move on. Yet if they do ff11 right they can hold the niche hardcore market. Just there going to need people from ff14 from time to time play ff11. Scary part for some of the haters are there slowing seeing there friends and other people moving over to ff14 and all the help and worked that they helped those friends and people with.

Plus i feel that ff14 is going to bring in all there final fantasy fans to ff14 now. In doing so. You got to look at it with a open mind that many of them never touched a mmo before. With many of there fans over the age of 25+ and got jobs and kids and stuff they want to accomplish some stuff in the short hrs they got time to play. With many of those fans who tryed ff11 for short periods of time and they did not like ff11.

Well FF11 cannot hang on forever if its designed to stay on the limitations of PS2. Once PS4 is released PS2 will fade away as did the PS1. Then SE will either have to drop 11 or do an overhaul moving the game over to PS3/4 or drop the game off consoles entirely and leave it strictly on PC. To recode the entire game and every single expansion sounds like making a brand new game. Reason why FF7 was never remade. Most likely why FF14 was receiving so much attention because its designed to play on a higher console than PS2.

Technology is changing so fast. IBM is already working on hologram phones like you saw back in the day in movies such as Star Wars. They said it could be ready in about a decade.

Did you see the resurrection of 2Pac at Coachella?

10 years from now maybe Mario will be sitting next to you at the dinner table D: you may have to save those mash potatoes for King Koopa.

How could they possibly get rid of PS2 limitations though. And then, what about Xbox360.
Could they ever get rid of limitations? Would it be worth it.

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Originally Posted by Daemon

Well FF11 cannot hang on forever if its designed to stay on the limitations of PS2. Once PS4 is released PS2 will fade away as did the PS1. Then SE will either have to drop 11 or do an overhaul moving the game over to PS3/4 or drop the game off consoles entirely and leave it strictly on PC. To recode the entire game and every single expansion sounds like making a brand new game. Reason why FF7 was never remade. Most likely why FF14 was receiving so much attention because its designed to play on a higher console than PS2.

Technology is changing so fast. IBM is already working on hologram phones like you saw back in the day in movies such as Star Wars. They said it could be ready in about a decade.

Did you see the resurrection of 2Pac at Coachella?

10 years from now maybe Mario will be sitting next to you at the dinner table D: you may have to save those mash potatoes for King Koopa.

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Yea , but all they need to do is just improve the xbox 360 version and PC version , and they could make it look great, but there still alot of japanese players that play on the ps2 version from what were told. Heard many japanese players do not got a PC and we know the xbox 360 failed bad there. We seen what ff14 does on the ps3 and xbox360 is pretty much the same system and 360 version was just a emulated version of ff11 .The ps2 game with hd added to it. Over time they were able to improve the xbox version from locking up and gave some of the stuff the pc got. Yet at this time and age I feel there like why put in the work to make it look amazing , They should have did it back in the Heyday of Aby. If there were going to improve the graphics.

People still listen to LP records. Sometimes classic stuff is classic though. Even when techno blows right past it. Heck the other weekend I went to a party and we pulled out the SNES and played some Killer instincts and we all had a blast lol. Just because we were all mad at microsoft ways for the xbox 1 at the time.

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Originally Posted by Jaall

Also the number of "I LOVE THIS GAME!!" threads is insane, and this is only beta!

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It makes me sad when the beta shuts down for the week on Sunday... Means I have to go back to FFXI until Friday. :(

Anyways, the game is truly amazing. I've played multiple F2P and P2P MMOs over the years, and I have to say XIV is one of the most impressive ones I've played.

Also, I really don't quite get why people bash so hard on WoW. I've played that before as well. It's a fun game for what it is. I used to alternate between FFXI and WoW just so I could get my PvP fix, which oh yeah, XIV will have.

All in all....

Amazing game. Will buy. Will quit FFXI. Fun times ahead.

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Originally Posted by SqEnisfilledwithgeniuses

It makes me sad when the beta shuts down for the week on Sunday... Means I have to go back to FFXI until Friday. :(

Anyways, the game is truly amazing. I've played multiple F2P and P2P MMOs over the years, and I have to say XIV is one of the most impressive ones I've played.

Also, I really don't quite get why people bash so hard on WoW. I've played that before as well. It's a fun game for what it is. I used to alternate between FFXI and WoW just so I could get my PvP fix, which oh yeah, XIV will have.

All in all....

Amazing game. Will buy. Will quit FFXI. Fun times ahead.

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What really crazy for ff14 is the benchmarks people been doing on there high end CPU's. There getting 60fps to 70fps on high settings and maxed settings been around 55-65 fps. The PS3 version insanse runs a solid 30 ish fps. I know a few friends with insane cpu able to get it to 83fps to 91 fps. Those pc guys are like it best looking game they ever seen on the pc graphic wise. Haters that got there set up on the pc there way unable to get it there, are like I spent my money into my pc my way and then are like if it not good enough for me , then it not good enough for anyone.

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Originally Posted by BST

How could they possibly get rid of PS2 limitations though. And then, what about Xbox360.
Could they ever get rid of limitations? Would it be worth it.

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From what Yoshida (XIV producer) said, and from what was also said on XV's announcement, SE is starting to build their games on DirectX 11, which in their words, makes it easier to port to different formats than say, building a game on the ps3 and porting over to Xbox.

This facilitates porting to multiple consoles and formats, and keep up with the current technology. This is how they'll be able to put out a PS4 version of XIV in just a year or so.

I really wish they could do the same for XI, but recoding 11 years worth of game content sounds like a massive behemoth. Ideally, it'd be nice, but most likely not feasible ><

These people will never learn.

Played some of the beta of XIV. I'm rather impressed as well so I'll be transitioning from one game to the other h/w retaining my character on XI. I really hope after XIV ARR is 99% complete with everything they want done with it they will send 70% of those devs to FFXI and help rebuild this game.

It seems XI has made it so where most content in the game is worthless and not worth the effort anymore. It's all about burning to 99, getting a delve weapon with some decent gear, and farming plasm anymore. I know people do other things like farm ADL, which can be fun, but I'm still put off by how boring this game can be. Whether its delve farming or waiting for 18/18 people for 2 hours, this game is so much more boring than XIV.

I know a lot of people are going to troll on this, but it should be evident this game is not going to last long until a V2 or something attracting more customers to pay for this game comes about. Just my thoughts on this.

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Originally Posted by Vil

SE is starting to build their games on DirectX 11

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This is how they'll be able to put out a PS4 version of XIV in just a year or so.

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Except the XIV beta still uses DX9. The game still runs (and runs better) on XP.

XIV will have DX11 support next year, around the time of the PS4 version.

The thing that sucks were seeing the slow death of ff11, and it sucks. Seen this from the intellevision, nes,arcade centers, genny, snes, ps1, game cube , ps2 , xbox , and all them in between. This death reminds me of the dreamcast dieing and the end of sega. OR the last couple of weeks ago when all us that enjoyed xbox. Then went back to sony for ps4. We can put all the strawberry and wipe cream on ff11 lasting for the next 6 month. Yet many us see the light and the door to the next side, yet it leave a empty feeling in the gut.


The only hope those of us that are fans for ff11 is that ff14 fails , but it will bankrupt square so were out of that hope.

The other option is they just tell the rest of the world were no longer making games for you guys. Like PSO2 did. FF14 japanese only.

They could embrace the fact there game is a global game and enjoy it and put the right people in charge of there company that respects all Fans and gamers alike across the world. That will enjoy ff14 success and maybe keep ff11 alive. Also Not worry about ff15 for now.

The Sad part they got draconian now on there forums for ff14, With Stuff on there forums on the beta , since people love the game and will complain and they do want to talk about it , to make sure it better. Got the 750 word limit, got a 15 minute time to reply back if your point is off so , unable make it better or worst . There to cheap to get actually people for free I guess from there sites to help moderate the forums.

i see so many dramatic posts on this thread, it makes me laugh how many people are on denial or butthurted because they finally realize that ffxi is dead

I don't know why people hold on so tightly to FFXI. Honestly, it's not the game it used to be, if it was I'd understand but it's all rose tinted glasses. We all had great times with XI, well most of us anyway. Why are people so insistent on holding onto them times even though they are now non-existent? There are so many complaints on this forum about the game yet every time someone mentions the game dying every goes off crying about how they wish it wasn't.

The way XI was will never be remade into a game, why hold on to the hope that it will be rather than cherish the memories you all once had? People crave the times they all used to have so much that they forget what really matters, and that is the friends you all made over the years, all the great times you had with them, all the places you visited when you first started playing the game and those noob "oh shi..." moments.

Sooner or later things do come to an end, but there is a great replacement at the end of this one, called XIV. It may be different but all those old friends are over there because they've moved on. I wouldn't mind if you played the game for what it is and didn't enjoy it but comparing it to rose-tinted glasses is not healthy and will definitely cloud your vision, so of course you wont like it. There are threads over on the ARR beta forums literally 10+ pages long with old XI players even from the very start of the game and a different thread for every server, and this is only beta. Just wait till the actual release and everybody gets access to those forums. Try the game before you slate it, because it is the closest you'll get to another XI, and it is a fantastic game.

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Originally Posted by Jaall

I don't know why people hold on so tightly to FFXI. Honestly, it's not the game it used to be, if it was I'd understand but it's all rose tinted glasses. We all had great times with XI, well most of us anyway. Why are people so insistent on holding onto them times even though they are now non-existent? There are so many complaints on this forum about the game yet every time someone mentions the game dying every goes off crying about how they wish it wasn't.

The way XI was will never be remade into a game, why hold on to the hope that it will be rather than cherish the memories you all once had? People crave the times they all used to have so much that they forget what really matters, and that is the friends you all made over the years, all the great times you had with them, all the places you visited when you first started playing the game and those noob "oh shi..." moments.

Sooner or later things do come to an end, but there is a great replacement at the end of this one, called XIV. It may be different but all those old friends are over there because they've moved on. I wouldn't mind if you played the game for what it is and didn't enjoy it but comparing it to rose-tinted glasses is not healthy and will definitely cloud your vision, so of course you wont like it. There are threads over on the ARR beta forums literally 10+ pages long with old XI players even from the very start of the game and a different thread for every server, and this is only beta. Just wait till the actual release and everybody gets access to those forums. Try the game before you slate it, because it is the closest you'll get to another XI, and it is a fantastic game.

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It's probably the same reason a person lives somewhere, goes to school, makes friends, settles down and then 2 years later your parents decides its time to move and you end up leaving behind everything you grew to love, your friends, places you will miss, memories...

I'm open to new things, but not everyone is the same. It's like when you see stories about people refusing to leave their homes during a hurricane/tornado warning.

I'd understand if this was leaving your home because of a hurricane or something but it's nowhere near that level. This is a game and admittedly a game that I and a lot of people have played a lot over the past 10 years but it is still just a game. We all signed up knowing that 1 day this game will end.

It's more like renting an apartment where the landlord is 80 years old. You know they're gonna die at some point and you'll likely have to move out but you don't know when, so you just keep enjoying it until it dies. It's inevitable and no matter how sad it is, it will happen it's just a matter of time. But there is a new landlord waiting for you across the street with the same type of flat, only modernised for the same price where all your neighbours have moved to but still you wait in the old flat ordering the old person not to die. The best you can do in this situation is just accept it and move on however sad it is.

Easy to say but hard for some to accept I'm sure especially to those who spent all that time earning items and gear. I know I've seen some people with multiple REMs. And to spend a decade earning those is not the same as renting an apartment and paying rent lol.
Our subscription fee is like paying rent. SE is the landlord, items we earned is like paying mortgage in hopes of being able to stay longer. Because in reality when you pay mortgage you are making a decision to make that your home. And items people earned gives people a reason to stay and not switch over to another game.

Games like Diablo where items are very easy to obtain and has no value because it didn't take you forever or require a huge group of friends to help you obtain, these type of games are easy to move away from.