No more guild holidays.

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Originally Posted by Masekase

52 days holiday every year.

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45 weeks a year.

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Most shops are open 7 days a week in the real world.

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8 days a week.

If there was no sellout mechanic, people would NOT be able to corner the market. As it stands, anyone who feels like it can camp the guild and buy out most, if not all, of the useful materials.

It also makes no sense for Guilds to close and have holidays but all other shops be open 24/7. The "real world vibe" is just an excuse. I'm not really sure why people bother asking for anything to be changed at this point.

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Originally Posted by Okipuit

Guild holidays were created to give Vana'diel a real-world vibe and for that reason, our NPCs need a break.

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Ugh. Next up: Random bathroom and smoke breaks of varying duration for all NPCs. Gotta keep Final Fantasy real.

1. The guild holidays do serve some purpose - when a material is spammed the previous day its cost goes up. With guild holidays you at least know that the next day mythril ores won't cost 12,000 gil a rock.

2. They don't mean people eating up all the materials to screw other players over, they mean people buying bottomless amounts of materials which could sometimes affect the economy. It also affects total supply of goods on the AH which could get destructive if the market gets over-saturated.

The could probably do with increasing the number of items available per guild day to prevent the aforementioned player against player problem in #2, and perhaps offer a compromise for Guild Holidays by extending non-holiday operation hours.

Edit: inbefore Waah wahh SE remove the "cost goes up" guild feature.
That exists for a reason too.

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Originally Posted by Okipuit

We definitely know where you are all coming from with this request, but we currently don't have any plans to change or remove the guild holidays. Guild holidays were created to give Vana'diel a real-world vibe and for that reason, our NPCs need a break. (Sorry they hang out at work. Apparently they don't have much else to do...)

As for increasing guild item stock or removing the "sellout" mechanic completely, this was done to prevent users from cornering the market and we don't have any plans to remove it.

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Uh, corner the market on what? items that are readily available? that doesn't make any sense.

Heee hee. I love this pattern.

Players: "We have a suggestion."
Developers: "No, we're not going to implement that."
Players: *petulant whining*

All the auction houses have been linked together. Why aren't the Guild Salesrooms?

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Originally Posted by Ziyyigo-Tipyigo

45 weeks a year.



8 days a week.

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Thanks for that confused myself writing it lol with real and reality lol

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Originally Posted by Okipuit

We definitely know where you are all coming from with this request, but we currently don't have any plans to change or remove the guild holidays. Guild holidays were created to give Vana'diel a real-world vibe and for that reason, our NPCs need a break. (Sorry they hang out at work. Apparently they don't have much else to do...)

As for increasing guild item stock or removing the "sellout" mechanic completely, this was done to prevent users from cornering the market and we don't have any plans to remove it.

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How about dragging Vana'diel's society into the 19th Century real-time and teaching them about SHIFT WORKING!

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Originally Posted by Zarchery

Heee hee. I love this pattern.

Players: "We have a suggestion."
Developers: "No, we're not going to implement that."
Players: *petulant whining*

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When the 'not going to do that' is supported by an asinine reason then it's hardly surprising that it isn't going to be received with equanimity.

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Originally Posted by detlef

Saruta cotton and silk thread are good examples, but back in the day you could only buy a single saruta cotton at max guild price (I don't quite recall about the silk threads). Certainly, that is not a good situation for anybody. As it is, people can make essentially unlimited amounts of Velvet Cloth which is still incredibly profitable for the effort. I think the current system hurts players.

Regarding Zeruhn Mines, I think the only worthwhile ores are iron and zinc. Zinc isn't sold at guilds (I'm not sure if they buy/sell zinc after you sell to them first) so that will always be profitable. Iron ore is already sold from a regular npc in addition to the guild npcs. Silver ore is almost always available readily from the GS guild at about 315 gil a pop. So I don't see how your mining expedition would be affected by increasing guild npc stock.

Green Ribbons are something I'm aware of but hadn't thought of. Yes, you could get a little thing going there if you had the time and patience (and synthesis time has been cut down drastically so even more so). SE has been good at extinguishing this kind of RMT activity as of late, but I do think when they do it also has a negative impact on legitimate players.

Overall, I would argue that RMT isn't much of an issue these days. Yeah, they've gotten increasingly desperate, selling gil for $8.99 in unsolicited /tells. But aside from that annoyance, you're very unlikely to have your day impacted in any way by RMT.

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you don't keep a solution that's been solved by opening the floodgates for it to hapen again... all im saying. i can garuntee you that RMT's would be back in full force im sure they watch this game very carefully....

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Originally Posted by Masekase

I'm sorry but that is the lamest excuse so far. Please tell me where in the "REAL WORLD" that you get 45 days holiday every year. No shops are open 8 days a week in the real world.

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Go work for Chik-Fil-A.

They get every Sunday off. Period.

Heck, I got them beat. I work a Mon-Fri job. I get -two- days off in a week. Go me!

I'm all for them despawning the guild vendors on their day off, though. Better than having them stand there.

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Originally Posted by Twille

I don't play this game for a 'real-world vibe'. I play it to have fun. Fun does not include running to a guild to purchase crafting materials, only to find yourself completely out of luck for the next 1+ hours because the store is 'closed'.

Its really unfortunate to hear that removing guild holidays isn't even going to be considered.

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aprantly you don't know a thing about luck and it's corellation to SE >_>

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Originally Posted by Okipuit

We definitely know where you are all coming from with this request, but we currently don't have any plans to change or remove the guild holidays. Guild holidays were created to give Vana'diel a real-world vibe and for that reason, our NPCs need a break. (Sorry they hang out at work. Apparently they don't have much else to do...)

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Fire the guild merchants and hire the armor/item/spell/roll/weapon shop NPCs. They work everyday all day, no days off, no time off.

Were we not supposed to notice that not all shops have holidays or have hours they aren't open?

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Originally Posted by Zagen

Fire the guild merchants and hire the armor/item/spell/roll/weapon shop NPCs. They work everyday all day, no days off, no time off.

Were we not supposed to notice that not all shops have holidays or have hours they aren't open?

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I'd be more amused if they gave them all time off instead. Really, why on earth do I go into shops at midnight and find someone ready to sell me a ton of jewelry? The local businesses need to know.

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Originally Posted by Tetsujin

1. The guild holidays do serve some purpose - when a material is spammed the previous day its cost goes up. With guild holidays you at least know that the next day mythril ores won't cost 12,000 gil a rock.

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They can still do this without guild holidays.

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Originally Posted by Tetsujin

2. They don't mean people eating up all the materials to screw other players over, they mean people buying bottomless amounts of materials which could sometimes affect the economy. It also affects total supply of goods on the AH which could get destructive if the market gets over-saturated.

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No logic here. Guilds do not stock enough for more than one player, as I said. The only thing this limitation brings is one person buying it out and doing whatever they want with it. It doesn't necessarily need to be removed, but at least increased. There's no reason one person buying Iron Ingots to skill up needs to be able to buy out the entire guild and still not have enough to finish the cap of that item. This is an MMO, there needs to be enough stock for a few people, not one. If a bunch of people are buying Iron Ingots, then sure, make the price go up and eventually run out of them. Currently? Every time I skill up a craft, I buy out the entire guild, craft it all, and then come back many game days later to the cheap price, screwing anyone else who needed that item.

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Originally Posted by Tetsujin

Edit: inbefore Waah wahh SE remove the "cost goes up" guild feature.
That exists for a reason too.

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You're right, there is a reason it exists, but it's too extreme due to the tiny amounts of stock.
Also, "waah wahh"? God forbid we make suggestions on a forum that's almost entirely meant for feedback. Our complaints are valid, given their excuses. This doesn't make you look cool.

I have to lol at "X was implemented so simulate real world conditions".

Let's recap some of these real world conditions?

Stores are closed once a week - which stores do this btw? Some businesses are closed for weekends.. but retail consumer outlets? I can buy clothing at Kohl's 7 days a week. I can buy food from Gordon's 7 days a week. Maybe pawn shops and We Buy Gold stores are closed some days of the week - I don't regularly needs to buy precious stones and metal ingots. :-)

Another real world situation: Waiting for a bus. Oh snap you see it pulling away and waving frantically at the driver doesn't have any effect? Please wait 11 minutes on the next one!

So yes.. your real world situations either aren't applicable in the real world, or they are only examples of real world time sinks.. this is a fantasy game, so why insist in including ridiculous real world elements that nobody wants and that kill immersion? Yes I know immersion is an over-used term and it makes people nostril flare. Please don't club me to death.