Remove or decrease race penalties

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Originally Posted by TheTrueMarth

Honestly, the 5 races SHOULD have strong and weak points, that's the way of any MMORPG.

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Strong and weak points, yes, but you can still have those differences without being quite so extreme. Taru's current HP pretty much completely removes their ability to participate in Legion as a melee. Galka MP on drk and pld can make their casting ability horribly hindered unless they merit it.

It's quite possible to shift some of these extremely low stats up a bit without changing the general order of racial strengths, while at the same time making it more feasible to use these jobs in a comfortable way.

On the Str/Dex/etc stats, there's some minor annoyances in the differences that I think could be toned down slightly, but overall they don't need much, if any, change.

Adding unique racial buffs, as tyrantsyn suggests, brings out a huge rebalancing problem, and I don't think that is a viable tack to take right now. Certainly not something I'd suggest for this game, though it would be interesting if you were designing a new game from the ground up.

HP is a huge problem, and really the only one that truly matters. My main job is drk, being a taru not only hurts my damage but limits the way I could play the game. My favorite food is carbonara.... and not for the store tp. I am reluctant to use diabolic eye because why lower my already low hp, I rather miss and live than get one shot by anything over 1100 damage. which is not that hard with last resort and berserk up. If closing the hp gap is not possible then please allow for a race change.
I pay if that is what it will take. I don't usually post but its looks like Dev's are finally listening. (Please listen) Akihiko Matsui!

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Originally Posted by TheTrueMarth

All MMORPGs have different races, each with their strong point and weak point. FFXI is no different.

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That's why we want it changed. I'm not really sure why you think being like every other MMO is a selling point.

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Originally Posted by TheTrueMarth

This has been around since the game came out, and I'm sure everybody knew this and chose the race accordingly based on what they like most.

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No video game start screen should ever feature a selection process that will haunt you for upwards of a decade and no, everyone did not pick appropriately. Why the hell would a person who just picked this game up know enough about the game to determine that the choice of race they made at start up is going to be good for the next ten years? Have you played this game? It's huge and it changes continuously. If you happen to be on a race that is good for your job of choice then you got lucky.

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Originally Posted by TheTrueMarth

Honestly, the 5 races SHOULD have strong and weak points, that's the way of any MMORPG. ... Why pick the one thing that's been around for 10 years that makes the most sense, and the people have already dealt with? /rant /thread.

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Because this is lame and it's always been lame. I don't need my imaginary midget character to actually be handicapped. This is a video game. In here you can be 2 feet tall, carry a 200 pound axe and smash deities with your thoughts.


And for the record: I don't care what topic you are discussing or who you are discussing it with. If your answer to any problem, ever is "if you want that then you should go spend weeks/months/years re-gearing / re-leveling a new character..." then you are wrong. Plain and simple. Wanna know the fastest way to make a person give up FFXI forever? Tell them to start over. Some people will do it. Most will not.

If people are so worried about keeping variety, why not keep stats separate from the physical appearance of each race. For example I want to be a taru. I like the way it looks, but the lack of hp is truly detrimental. Why can't I just be a taru with galka stats? Just change the race benefits to a different name and allow us to chose our race separately from stat bonuses.

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Originally Posted by FrankReynolds

That's why we want it changed. I'm not really sure why you think being like every other MMO is a selling point.

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Because if every race had the same stats, we might as well be playing an MMO were all characters are Hume. Delete Taru, delete Galka, delete Elvaan and Mithra. The whole point behind different races is to have different options, not just cosmetics. That's one thing MMOs have in common for good reason.

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Originally Posted by FrankReynolds

No video game start screen should ever feature a selection process that will haunt you for upwards of a decade and no, everyone did not pick appropriately. Why the hell would a person who just picked this game up know enough about the game to determine that the choice of race they made at start up is going to be good for the next ten years? Have you played this game? It's huge and it changes continuously. If you happen to be on a race that is good for your job of choice then you got lucky.

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I've been playing the game since NA relese. I picked Hume M solely on the fact the stats were balanced. I knew Elvaan had more STR, I knew Galka had more HP/VIT, I knew Taru had more MP/INT. I knew Mithra had more DEX/AGI. I picked Hume for the stats. It's not unheard of for someone to actually study before making a decision. I've never once regretted Hume or wanted to change.

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Originally Posted by FrankReynolds

And for the record: I don't care what topic you are discussing or who you are discussing it with. If your answer to any problem, ever is "if you want that then you should go spend weeks/months/years re-gearing / re-leveling a new character..." then you are wrong. Plain and simple. Wanna know the fastest way to make a person give up FFXI forever? Tell them to start over. Some people will do it. Most will not.

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If people are going to complain and beg "Papa SE" over the smallest things like this, maybe MMOs aren't for these people. There are more and far bigger things to deal with other than "My Taru can only do 3100 damage when an Elvaan can do 3300". You find ways to deal with it and cope or you don't.

Wow you have an army of Taru's demanding more HP and to a lessor degree more STR but not willing to balance that out with other stats.

I'd prefer an overall increase in HP not making Taru's have as nearly as much HP as everyone else while still maintaining their INT and MP advantage.

Please please please give this serious consideration! I picked my tarutaru race almost 10 years ago? I am a main DD and i'm very good at it. However, the penalties to taru HP are very harsh and almost unplayable in some content where you are 10x more likely to die instantly than elvaan or galka. Could the dev team give serious thought to

1: reducing racial penalties, your race shouldn't make or break your chances of winning something. It's more of a cosmetic choice, slight penalties are fine.

2: Giving us an option to purchase "Race Change". I think this would be pretty easy to impliment and I would be more than happy to pay gil or crysta to enact it.


I love playing this game and being in the top tier of damage dealers. I hate the fact that I can't do anything to survive sometimes in mul legion. elvaan getting 300+ more HP on same job vs job is pretty broken when the monsters are hitting for 500-1200 (yes I have hybrid sets with cap haste/most PDT you can get - usually around 34%).

This game has changed a lot since I made my decision to be TaruTaru, and i'm penalized heavily for it. Max MP is nowhere near as crucial as Max HP these days. Please give this careful consideration!!!

Eh, I don't see what would be so horrible about there being more stat balance between the races. Heck, it wouldn't bother me a bit if everyone had the same base stats to be quite honest. I'd rather race be purely a cosmetic choice and have zero affect on game play.

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Originally Posted by TheTrueMarth

Because if every race had the same stats, we might as well be playing an MMO were all characters are Hume. Delete Taru, delete Galka, delete Elvaan and Mithra. The whole point behind different races is to have different options, not just cosmetics. That's one thing MMOs have in common for good reason.

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You're sorely mistaken if you think that people won't choose different races anyways despite them all having the same stats. Some people just think tarus are cute. Some guys wanna look tough on galka. Some guys wanna roleplay on a mithra. There are already genders, hair types sizes etc. Why doesn't any of that bother you? It's fine for an Elvaan to be stronger than a taru because they are bigger right? But why isn't the large Taru stronger than the small model? Doesn't seem fair to me. I say make them all equal. There are plenty of jobs to try. You won't suffer an identity crisis. I promise.

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Originally Posted by TheTrueMarth

I've been playing the game since NA relese. I picked Hume M solely on the fact the stats were balanced. I knew Elvaan had more STR, I knew Galka had more HP/VIT, I knew Taru had more MP/INT. I knew Mithra had more DEX/AGI. I picked Hume for the stats. It's not unheard of for someone to actually study before making a decision. I've never once regretted Hume or wanted to change.

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Good for you. I'm glad that the stats you wanted also happened to be on the character model that you like. For other people the two things don't always line up. I picked Hume for the same reasons as you. Unfortunately I actually like galkas better, but couldn't choose one because I wanted to play a mage class. Not fun.

Studying for 20 years isn't going to change the fact that people who prefer the taru model will have to choose between shitty melee stats and shitty looks. I could understand having varying stats if we were able to change our races like we change jobs, or even if we could only change them once in a while. But knowing that people have been stuck with these choices for years on end makes that whole stat difference more of a nuisance than a perk.

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Originally Posted by TheTrueMarth

If people are going to complain and beg "Papa SE" over the smallest things like this, maybe MMOs aren't for these people. There are more and far bigger things to deal with other than "My Taru can only do 3100 damage when an Elvaan can do 3300". You find ways to deal with it and cope or you don't.

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Perhaps the same could be said of you. I don't think you get to decide who MMOs are for and Who they aren't for. People who play this MMO want to be able to play whatever race they want without it impacting their ability to play the game. Maybe you need to cope with that (although I'm not really sure why you are against this other than to be a nay sayer out of principal) or just don't play?

If they put this into effect, you are still free to gimp your stats through gear if you really miss that lower stat feeling. People who want higher stats cannot easily do that. People should be better at this game because they are better at the game.

And for the record: This game is almost entirely about doing 3300 damage instead of 3100. You wouldn't have stats at all if it wasn't.

To anyone who thinks the 11 STR difference between Tarus and other races doesn't matter, make a WS set on an Elvaan using only NQ pieces and then make it again on a Taru using enough HQ pieces to even it out (if you can, which is unlikely). Then calculate the difference in price between the sets. That racial difference is worth millions of gil.

Still, I care less about the STR difference than the HP difference. It's annoying being denied the ability to participate in content because my HP is too low.

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Originally Posted by Byrth

Still, I care less about the STR difference than the HP difference. It's annoying being denied the ability to participate in content because my HP is too low.

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Exactly. There's more than enough ways to exclude people from content. Race shouldn't be one of them.

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Originally Posted by Byrth

To anyone who thinks the 11 STR difference between Tarus and other races doesn't matter

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While I'd like to reiterate that the focus of our grief is HP based, I'd also like to add that the 14 point or so INT difference between a Elvaan and a Tarutaru doesn't seem to match up to the 11 STR difference either. Yes, it is still millions of gear difference, but mages aren't as good a damage option as melee by far, and as far as I know 14 more INT doesn't make as big a difference to damage as 11 STR (although I might be wrong on this one, if anyone cares to math it out).

I'd leave race penalties as they are and, instead, remove the merit restrictions regarding HP, MP and attributes.

It would be much better just having a progressive increase of merit points cost and a hard cap for max base attributes like, as example, 110 for attributes, 1500 for HP and 1200 for MP.

This would give players freedom to enchance their characters as much as they want if they feel like putting a decent amount of effort on this.

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Assume my character has 100 STR as WAR and 80 STR as SMN. I could keep putting effort on STR...if i raise +12 STR it would end with WAR having 110 STR (hard cap reached) and SMN having 92 STR...and if i raise STR by +30 it would end with both jobs having 110 STR. This would remove the gap between some race/job combos when race favors it and when it doesn't.

If a taru wanted 110 STR he just would need to put way more effort on this than an elvaan, just like a galka would be required to put way more effort on raising MP than a taru to reach this cap.

Also, to prevent everyone to getting all attributes at cap for all jobs too fast, just increase drastically the merit point cost of attributes past the current caps. At least ppl would have something else to do.

I have no interest in making all the races equal. I leveled 4 different characters in 2003 to figure out which race I liked the best. Guess what, it's Elvaan.

If people want to complain about having Taru tarus, then they should make another character. Taru make good mages and AGI based jobs. Everyone knows that. Just because Elvaan is more attractive at current end game doesn't mean that Taru should magically get to be #1 again. Taru didn't share their over-sized MP pool back in the day, why should anyone feel sorry for them now?

It's not like it's hard to build a character in about a month or two if you actually know what you are doing.

Seems kinda odd to me that people complain at how low Galka's MP is, when I see Galka SMN matching my smn for mp, yet they beat my HP by a good 400-500.

The only thing that needs balancing out in my opinion is how little difference MP makes per race, compared to HP. Either give tarus another 200~ HP at 99, or double our MP to make it a valid trade-off.

11 STR is exactly
+2.75 fSTR
8.25 Attack

And if your using 100% STR WS (Resolution, Stardiver, Ruinator, Shoha)
+9.35 WSD
If your using a 60% STR WSC (Ukon, Vere, MS, Kaiten, Fudo)
+5.61 WSC

We're still in the single digits for percentage difference. STR, like most melee stats, has decreasing returns the more of it you get. 11STR is not a big deal.

Now HP on the other hand isn't just a taru problem, though they are the worst effected by it. Since 75 our HP has not scaled properly with the monsters output potential, this in turn has created many scenarios where DD's are killed within seconds of not having PD / Fanatics up. As an elvann with 15/15 HP merits I still get one shoted sometimes, it's just a fact of life now. SE needs to increase HP/MP across the board by 30~50% minimum. Elvann and Galka will still have the highest HP but Taru's would be high enough to not be in danger so much.

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Originally Posted by Vortex

DO you actually have any idea what you are talking about? Hume is the middle ground, they have no "worst" stats but they have no "best" either unless you count CHR.

mithra is pretty much almost the same as hume except a little more dex which isn't really something significant as any race can match or top it with gear. you really should actually look at a humes stats on jobs before you make such a judgement.

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Do you have any idea what I mean by the worst? Not having best useful stat is what makes it worst. If I'm DDing on melee job, Elvaan does more dmg than me. If I'm spamming WF, Taru does more dmg than me. If I'm spamming CDC and dDEX not capped, mithra does more dmg than me, if I'm meleeing with shitty AoE, I die before galka too. Match it with gear is irrelevant, because other races can wear same gears too.

What's so good about hume? Nothing. CHR etc isn't useful, and nobody cares if Hume has higher other state. Job change is irrelevant, nobody care about CHR for BRD nor MND for WHM. As stated before, if you play 20 jobs, you probably get best out of Mithra/galka/elvaan, but just not hume. And even taru is better WF job than hume when HP isn't a factor outside of AoE range and taru has higher AGI.

Edit: Just rechecked race stat, it seems that Mithra has a little bit lower STR than Hume, but DEX and AGI is way higher. VIT CHR MND's lower than hume but those 3 stats are pretty much useless anyways, so what's so good about Hume having those useless stats higher?

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Originally Posted by Lienn

Also, to prevent everyone to getting all attributes at cap for all jobs too fast, just increase drastically the merit point cost of attributes past the current caps. At least ppl would have something else to do.

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Pretty lame way to design the game and keep ppl playing by making players grind more merit points.

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Originally Posted by TheTrueMarth

All MMORPGs have different races, each with their strong point and weak point. FFXI is no different.
Tarutaru = Mage, high MP pool, high INT and high MND.
Galka = Tank, high HP pool, high VIT and defense.
Elvaan = Damage, high STR and attack.
Mithra = Something... High DEX and AGI.
Hume = Jack of all trades.

This has been around since the game came out, and I'm sure everybody knew this and chose the race accordingly based on what they like most. To come up 10 years later and all of a sudden say this needs to change, everything needs to be equal is throwing in your "Game it too easy, make it easier so I literally don't have to do anything and throw my money at SE." If you don't like your races weak point, you have 3 choices.
A. Make a new character that has the stats you want. Exp isn't hard to get.
B. Pull up your big girl panties and get over it.
C. Quit.

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The point is that certain stats are fairly useless. I have np with races make a difference, but when certain stats are pretty useless, it become a penality.

I picked Hume because brandy guide(or w/e guide that's old) told me Hume is jack of all trade and best for jack of all trade jobs like RDM and BLU, and I wanted to main RDM or BLU when I started.

Only to turn out that for BLU STR and DEX are most important stat and hume sucked. Hume has balanced INT MND VIT CHR MP etc and all those are useless for BLU and majority of other jobs. Then I leveled COR and Hume still sucked with AGI compare with cats and tarus.

Reroll a char? No way I'm starting all over again just for a few stat boost, but it feels bad that everytime that another race is doing more dmg than me in same gears when I have 0 advantage over them. I have np staying as jack of all trade Hume forever, but only if other stats become useful. Currently any stat that's not HP STR DEX AGI are pretty meh.

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Originally Posted by Lienn

I'd leave race penalties as they are and, instead, remove the merit restrictions regarding HP, MP and attributes.

It would be much better just having a progressive increase of merit points cost and a hard cap for max base attributes like, as example, 110 for attributes, 1500 for HP and 1200 for MP.

This would give players freedom to enchance their characters as much as they want if they feel like putting a decent amount of effort on this.

Example:

Assume my character has 100 STR as WAR and 80 STR as SMN. I could keep putting effort on STR...if i raise +12 STR it would end with WAR having 110 STR (hard cap reached) and SMN having 92 STR...and if i raise STR by +30 it would end with both jobs having 110 STR. This would remove the gap between some race/job combos when race favors it and when it doesn't.

If a taru wanted 110 STR he just would need to put way more effort on this than an elvaan, just like a galka would be required to put way more effort on raising MP than a taru to reach this cap.

Also, to prevent everyone to getting all attributes at cap for all jobs too fast, just increase drastically the merit point cost of attributes past the current caps. At least ppl would have something else to do.

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Or could do race specific merits

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Originally Posted by ManaKing

Taru make good mages and AGI based jobs. Everyone knows that. Just because Elvaan is more attractive at current end game doesn't mean that Taru should magically get to be #1 again. Taru didn't share their over-sized MP pool back in the day, why should anyone feel sorry for them now?
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Do people forget how obnoxious the "taru black mages" were back when black mage was popular? Seems like a lot of mad tarus in this thread. You made your choice.

Instead of modifying HP and MP directly, it could also be done by giving different races damage and MP consumption reductions.
So a taru would get 20% less damage from any source, but a galka would consume less MP per spell.

The other stats would need a different approach, although equalizing them across all races would do the trick (if a bit boring).

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Originally Posted by Kristal

Instead of modifying HP and MP directly, it could also be done by giving different races damage and MP consumption reductions.
So a taru would get 20% less damage from any source, but a galka would consume less MP per spell.

The other stats would need a different approach, although equalizing them across all races would do the trick (if a bit boring).

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I always thought that tarus should recieve +50% damage taken, and galkas should recieve -100% EXP-per-kill, personally.

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Originally Posted by Siiri

Do people forget how obnoxious the "taru black mages" were back when black mage was popular? Seems like a lot of mad tarus in this thread. You made your choice.

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I don't. I didn't even play BLM back when it was popular. Sounds like you're just making stuff up. Also, was your Elvaan BLM ever denied to nuke at Kirin/Fafhogg back in 2005? No.

Taru Melee, on the other hand, are often denied to play in Legion because their low HP is a liability.

Thats the issue here. The problem isn't that a racial difference exists, it's that the game has changed to a state where extra HP is the only thing that matters between different races. Extra MP doesn't matter when you get 20MP/tick even outside Abyssea.

A few years go the "racial differences have strengths and weaknesses" argument would hold some water because it was actually true. These days a Galka or Elvaan SCH does every bit as well as a Tarutaru because if you're running low on MP, it's because your group is doing something wrong. Getting one-shot on a Tarutaru melee, on the other hand, just isn't something people can control, and it will put you out a DPS for 3+ minutes.

So either make MP actually matter again (Which isn't going to be easy because of massive refresh choices), or make HP matter less. With the upcoming change to Embrava, we can potentially get like 40MP/tick if you have every refresh buff up. They better plan on adding some amazing spell that costs over 1000 MP and generates no enmity if they want that MP pool to matter.

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Originally Posted by Kristal

Instead of modifying HP and MP directly, it could also be done by giving different races damage and MP consumption reductions.
So a taru would get 20% less damage from any source, but a galka would consume less MP per spell.

The other stats would need a different approach, although equalizing them across all races would do the trick (if a bit boring).

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Or just get rid of one shot moves in this game.

Other states needs to be more important too, I'm fine with every race have weakness and strength, but if certain stats are nearly useless than weakness/strength system is pointless to have too.

Dissociating the stat packages from race would be fine with me too. If I could choose any set of stats at the moment, I'd probably choose Elvaan or Galka. I agree that I don't really want to give up being a Taru, although I'd be fine with a different haircut at this point.

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Originally Posted by ManaKing

I have no interest in making all the races equal. I leveled 4 different characters in 2003 to figure out which race I liked the best. Guess what, it's Elvaan. ...

It's not like it's hard to build a character in about a month or two if you actually know what you are doing.

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That's exactly the problem. You had to waste months leveling in order to make what should be a simple choice of aesthetics. What a horrible waste of time and a major turn off.

And don't give me that "oh it only takes a month or so to build a character" stuff. Nobody in their right mind is going to to throw out their hard work and re-roll unless it's to build a mule. And it takes a lot longer than a month (not to mention a shit ton of money) to re-level crafts, get AF3+2, do limit breaks, quests, COP/ToAU/ZM/VW clears etc. etc. .Having one or two jobs leveled does not a character make. Nobody should have to do all that to change a simple aesthetic. That is a terrible idea.

While I agree with you mostly, you are somewhat wrong. "it takes a lot longer than a month (not to mention a shit ton of money) to re-level crafts, get AF3+2, do limit breaks, quests, COP/ToAU/ZM/VW clears etc. etc." Crafts, yes. AF3+2 is fairly easy especially if you have a LS your obviously putting this new character in, limit breaks are cake, and getting easier every few months even, quests are so so, they can take time, but depends which you are talking about, CoP takes 1 week, ToAU takes 1~2 weeks, Zilart is able to be done in a single day, VW is a pain because it can be hard to find people for win runs. I wouldn't say most of the things are hard to do, the only real problems I see are luck based drops. Getting back your Mekira body and your Corus from Qilin are going to be your real pains to get back.

I've got 99 Ragnarok, Ukonvasara, Twashtar, and Terpsichore, along with 110 Alchemy. Please tell me again how re-rolling is a viable option.

Its not, its stupid, I agree, but most things are not hard to get back. Ukon/Twash are annoying, but easy, Mythic is a bitch to do again, and Rag is time. My point is that most things that are not severely luck based can be gotten back much fairly easily, so long as your resources did not change much since.

There should be a SE-sercive (you pay it like a monthly fee to play the game or to servertransfer) to change your race. Should not touch the race-differences at all, if ppl want to change their race should make them pay for it. If those who complain about their race are really bothered that much they can also pay a few €/$.

The Race-differences ingame should remain untouched.. beside.. all races wouldnt mind a HP boost.. like 20% for each race.

I too think that HP values across the board have not increased enough since lv75, compared both to the monster's damage output, and the healing power of white mages. Something like 35% more HP for all races (maybe a tiny bit more for tarus) would probably be healthy for the game. At the same time, reduce Cure 6's MP cost to around 170, and give Cure 5 to red mages.

Having slightly diffrent stats across diffrent races is part of what makes in interesting. And it fits the storyline to. I wouldnt want to see a galka with more mp then a tarutaru. And i wouldnt expect to see a tarutaru out strength a galka. Their is a reason for that. Leave it the way it is.

You know the problem with a Taru's HP not being up to snuff with end game content goes a lot deeper than what you guys are making it out to be.

1: TP set ups are not optimal for taken damage in. While some race's can get away with it, because of their stats. Other's can't. One ideal fix for this is armor that reduce damage, ad's HP, and add's to haste and x-hit build's all at the same time. ATM there's little to none that offer this.

2: Content is way to over powered in some cases, in order to make it challenging. And in the case of the Taru's HP that couldn't make it, need's to be taken into account and adjusted. There's plenty of ways this could be done with out giving Taru's a HP upgrade. I'd refer to 1 on this.

When I first came to the game, I started on RDM. And I hadn't realize for a long time how much of a favor I had done for myself by doing this until I try out BLM. The MP pool on a Galka sucks, but can be counter by a good refresh rate. It never bothered me that the Taru next to me had 1000 mp. Because I had made a good choice for a job that would keep my MP pool going even as I went deeper into a battle.

Now, I noticed this earlier and I just wanted to bring attention to it. But if you a Taru and your front of the line job is DRK than you sir/madam have some big brass :):) 's
You know you have a weak hp pool and you know your on the front line with one of the most self destructive job's there is in the game. So how would some one who chooses to do this combo going to complain after the fact. You have set yourself up with a challenging combination and you need to take that into account before you suit up and head out.

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Originally Posted by Byrth

I've got 99 Ragnarok, Ukonvasara, Twashtar, and Terpsichore, along with 110 Alchemy. Please tell me again how re-rolling is a viable option.

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I'm sure you noticed the tarutaru disadvantage long before you got all those weapons :)

I'm not suggesting that rerolling is a real option, I'm just messing with you

I don't understand how people can say "oh it only takes this many hours to reroll your character". Those hours I could've spent doing something else? Even just getting through CoP is probably a whole day just due to all the walking around you have to do. Do none of you value your time at all or something?

HP Boost on a taru at the very least. We're way too squishy :(

Guys Girls Guys and Girls......
Don't you get it?

It's all about Balance

I'm a tarutaru and I'm against changing things. Some may have chosen our characters purely for cosmetic reasons, but plenty of us like having our race specialties and advantages. When we encounter a weakness, we deal with it and compensate for it. Knowing how to cast a black magic spell and walk the line on enmity to the point of NOT getting killed is part of the deal for a black mage, and using gear and food are part of the deal for those of us who want to be on the frontline. Having different races with different stats means having different play styles and requires you to think about how you play your job as an individual and in a group. It would be dull and silly to just lump everyone into one group.

For those who really feel that strongly about it, I say let them have an option, a time-limited race change thing like the ability to change servers. You want to be a hume instead of a tarutaru? Okay, fine, try it out once every 90 days or so. If people really feel that strongly, then we can give them that option, but there's no reason to deprive everyone of such a key feature/mechanic of the game. Variety is good and it should remain.

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Originally Posted by Godofgods

Having slightly diffrent stats across diffrent races is part of what makes in interesting. And it fits the storyline to. I wouldnt want to see a galka with more mp then a tarutaru. And i wouldnt expect to see a tarutaru out strength a galka. Their is a reason for that. Leave it the way it is.

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You know damn well that if all the races in this game had had the same stats back when you bought it, that you wouldn't have even noticed the difference. You would have picked whichever race seemed the coolest to you at that time and played away happily in ignorant bliss. And if someone had suggested "I think I should be better at mage jobs than you because I'm small", you would have laughed and told him to F*** off. Years later some dummy would suggest it here on this forum and you would be arguing about what a stupid idea that is and how there are thousands of games where race / character have absolutely nothing to do with stats and players are happy about that.