Gungnir needs to be addressed.

Nothing about the WS indicates its thunder based. Even Cloudsplitter which is a thunder animation WS is STR/MND.

I got this. I just finished this letter addressed to Gungnir. I'm all over this!

Dearest Gungnir,

As we march towards Quebec this frigid Winter, my thoughts often turn to you as I wrap my feet with rags. A little while after that, I think about killing and eating Private Johnson. There's a lot on my mind, I guess?

I think about the AGI modifier on your weaponskill, I think about the Shockspikes of your Aftermath, I think about the priority of your Defense Down additional effect. I think of these things often, and my hatred of them keeps me warm over these frozen plains and hills.

Eagerly do I await my return home after this fool's campaign, when I will grip you tightly in both hands that I might better hurl you into the ocean after completing a Ryunohige.

Lots of Hugs and Kisses,
Corporal Spank M. Wustler

But really do people think Gungnir will be fixed anytime soon. I've had one for quite a while now and like many of you waiting for something like making Angon a unique ability to help Gungnir. Yet not even one developer rep will even respond to this post. Do they not care anymore? Diablo 3 is a game I play and while it has more issue than FFXI at least the devs respond to posts on the official forums. Why will they not answer us?

This is a bump in hope that Camate will read this, please address not just Gungnir's WS, but all relic WS when they update RME to be on par with Delve weapons. Please add the proper mods for WS, none of this AGI mumbo jumbo please and thank you!

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Originally Posted by loldrg

This is a bump in hope that Camate will read this, please address not just Gungnir's WS, but all relic WS when they update RME to be on par with Delve weapons. Please add the proper mods for WS, none of this AGI mumbo jumbo please and thank you!

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That and also please make the AMs worth something, not all of them are good, many are terrible in every way, like 10HP/Tick Regen, Shock Spikes, Subtle Blow, these need replaced!

Well at least its not as bad as Diablo 3 where EVERYTHING is basically a scratch off ticket that u never win on

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Originally Posted by Umichi

I always viewed Gugnir as the solo dragoons choice in a ultimate weapon, we do have two other weapons you can use that have better aftermaths for party/alliance play and might i also point out stardiver's aftermath. please dont fix it if anything just balance it out i plan on owning this weapon in the future. fix the modifier to vit or something :3


Edit: upon further reading i concur with fixing the defense down.

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You do realize the the aftermath is worthless? 5-15 damage and a non-existent proc rate on the stun. I have been hit thousands of times with the spikes up and only seen the stun proc twice and a majority of these hits were on low lvl mobs, 30-40 levels lower even.

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Originally Posted by Demon6324236

That and also please make the AMs worth something, not all of them are good, many are terrible in every way, like 10HP/Tick Regen, Shock Spikes, Subtle Blow, these need replaced!

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At least every other relic and I do mean every relic has some kind of use in their aftermath but gungnirs has absolutely no use and never has or will if it is not fixed. I'm not saying some of the others shouldn't be revamped either though.

They gave us an even bigger slap in the face with our plasm weapon being weaker then every plasm weapon when our "weak" relic can beat it on some occasions. It stands no chance against mythic though. Every other jobs plasm weapon blows their stronger RME out of the water.

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Originally Posted by Helldemon

They gave us an even bigger slap in the face with our plasm weapon being weaker then every plasm weapon when our "weak" relic can beat it on some occasions. It stands no chance against mythic though. Every other jobs plasm weapon blows their stronger RME out of the water.

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This is what I thought about the delve weapon too. I did ask for other people's thoughts on it in another thread, but got no replies ><

At least the delve boss weapon is freaking awesome though... when I can get a win, that's definately where my plasm is going.

Don't believe my server has a single NA win on any delve megabosses atm :(

Wow, that sucks. Pretty sure people will be selling spots to people who need wins before long on Phoenix.

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Originally Posted by Ophannus

The second problem
All relics seem to have a unique attribute whether it's a special bonus on the weapon(Ragnarok's Critical Hit+ bonus), the damage of the WS(Mandau/Annhilator) a property of the weapon skill(Catastrophe's HP drain) or the aftermath effect(Mandau/Ragnarok/Guttler). Gungnir un fortunately has none of these. The Weapon skill is very weak and has an unreasonable AGI modifier for reasons unknown(DRG has one of the LOWEST AGI ratings in the game and gets almost no AGI gear), the aftermath is terrible as outlined in the previous paragraph, and there is no unique enhancement on the weapon that gets stronger with magian trials like Ragnarok's critical hit bonus. The only unique effect Gungnir was given was "Additional Effect: Defense Down"

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It's not a lot, but part of this is at last being addressed... with an 80% DEX mod as of the 17th July 2014 update

Also, Camlann's Torment is getting an additional 60% STR on top of it's current 60% VIT mod.

Should be pretty sweet. That puts Geirskogul somewhere on par with Tachi Fudo(before new changes) and Camlann's Torment well above Tachi Fudo(before new changes). They should both be pretty solid weapons skills. Though with Gungnir's +40% Geirskogul damage, Geirskogul will probably be stronger of the two against targets in which don't have massive defense. Hopefully, since Drakesbane and Penta Thrust were not visibly changed, their Attack penalties were at least removed...

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Originally Posted by Ophannus

Hopefully, since Drakesbane and Penta Thrust were not visibly changed, their Attack penalties were at least removed...

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I really hope so. Why wouldn't they make any adjustments on drakesbane? I always thought the ws was meh...

Lol there was a time groups wouldn't let people come on Drg if they didn't have drakesbane.

well 2 years on and he got some of what he wanted...

No longer oevr rides angon and now has a DEX mod... ohh and the Ws dosent suck anymore.

But yeah lol shockspikes

"Shock Spikes" is a waste of an Aftermath slot, how about changing it to something DD based like "Weapon Skill DMG +%"?

141 likes 6 pages of discussion and 0 SE statement/acknowledgement thats whats sad.............

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well 2 years on and he got some of what he wanted...

No longer oevr rides angon and now has a DEX mod... ohh and the Ws dosent suck anymore.

But yeah lol shockspikes

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It still sucks, Camlann's and Stardriver still destroy it.

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Originally Posted by Technikatwo

"Shock Spikes" is a waste of an Aftermath slot, how about changing it to something DD based like "Weapon Skill DMG +%"?

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Shock spikes could be fine as a solo tool if it wasn't so pathetically weak. Give it 30-40% chance on proc and a good duration along with 100+ dmg spikes and that would be fine. When I was doing trials at 99(?) the crabs in kuftal tunnel never once got stunned and it was doing 4-5 dmg lol.