Converting cruor to gil

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Originally Posted by Arcon

Just need people to enter you.

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Giggity
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Originally Posted by Arcon

Farming cruor is the best way to make money in the game, especially if you have some mules.

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I would argue FCing is probably as good if you leave out the mules and fill it with paying people, WAR & RDM dualboxing I used to make about 12Mil every 10 hour cleave I did. Due to the pain Blinker runs cause my fingers I probably end up with more from FC than Blinkers, but I could be wrong and pain doesnt effect everyone the same.

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Originally Posted by Reiterpallasch

Giggity

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Thank you for that, I needed a good lol for the day! ^_^

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Originally Posted by Demon6324236

I would argue FCing is probably as good if you leave out the mules and fill it with paying people, WAR & RDM dualboxing I used to make about 12Mil every 10 hour cleave I did.

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Likely, but FCing is very popular (at least on Leviathan) and you're likely to have competition, while cruor farming is still pretty new and there's a few good spots for it.

Id be fine with a "Fill me up" option at the NPC instead of pressing ( right, down, enter, 1, 2, enter, enter) for like 50 times till it sais "you cannot obtain...."

I think you should just be able to enter any number you want, and then the NPC would split it up into as many stacks as you'd need. Like if you entered 120 instead of 12, you'd get 10 stacks of 12 each.

I think if it were any easier to get the blinkers they would have lowered the NPC sell price by now.

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Originally Posted by Arcon

All of them are a lot worse than Blinkers. Farming cruor is the best way to make money in the game, especially if you have some mules.

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Sorry you misunderstood my point - I never said choco blinkers wasn't good gil. I only ever meant choco blinkers is not a fun thing to do. I would much rather get my gil through other engaging ways in the game (as I mentioned previously) and then have fun with my cruor at the same time :)

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Originally Posted by Smeggles

Sorry you misunderstood my point - I never said choco blinkers wasn't good gil. I only ever meant choco blinkers is not a fun thing to do. I would much rather get my gil through other engaging ways in the game (as I mentioned previously) and then have fun with my cruor at the same time :)

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I don't disagree, I can't do anything like that without dying of boredome. That's why I mentioned Salvage. The entry requirement is the only thing that sucks about it. If you can get past that, it's fun, actually engaging and requires some sort of skill if you're soloing or 2boxing it. And it's as rewarding as Dynamis if you don't have to split the loot.

OP, you got your wish. Great work! I salute you :)

sadness befalls me

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Originally Posted by Hashmalum

We've all been doing it by using cruor to buy chocobo blinkers then NPCing them for gil for a long time now. The dev team should by now be well aware of this. It could be eliminated, trivially and without side-effects, by adjusting the NPC sale price of chocobo blinkers. But they have refused to do so. I can only conclude that the dev team is perfectly fine with the idea of converting cruor to gil.

However, this procedure is tedious and requires lots of inventory space. So I propose that an NPC should be added to convert cruor to gil directly. There's even a ready-made lore explanation--it's already been stated in the Voidwatch storyline that Jeuno needs cruor for its anti-Voidwalker efforts and is always wanting more. Jeuno is of course a very wealthy city, made even more so by the fact that they literally mint gil. It would be trivial both code-wise and lore-wise to do it and it would make our lives a lot easier. So why not?

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So, Hardcore players though they weren't affected by this update, but who the hell will keep buying all their Umbral Marrows without being able to convert cruor to gil... alot of people made relic and their upgrade to 99 this way.

Soloing dynamis all days is boring, farming cruor and converting cruor to gil was boring... it'll affect the overall price of everything.

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Originally Posted by Waldrich

So, Hardcore players though they weren't affected by this update, but who the hell will keep buying all their Umbral Marrows without being able to convert cruor to gil... alot of people made relic and their upgrade to 99 this way.

Soloing dynamis all days is boring, farming cruor and converting cruor to gil was boring... it'll affect the overall price of everything.

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what you said makes no sense especially since what you quoted had nothing to do with what you said.

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Originally Posted by Waldrich

So, Hardcore players though they weren't affected by this update, but who the hell will keep buying all their Umbral Marrows without being able to convert cruor to gil... alot of people made relic and their upgrade to 99 this way.

Soloing dynamis all days is boring, farming cruor and converting cruor to gil was boring... it'll affect the overall price of everything.

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It was pisant elitists that probably caused this to happen, I'd bet. Altana forbid that the common players actually be able to afford good gear.

Gotta keep the common man down imo. The ego the common man got once they first got there hands on empyrean weapons was enough for me to hope the common man never gets good gear/weapons ever again

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Originally Posted by JohnGotti

Gotta keep the common man down imo. The ego the common man got once they first got there hands on empyrean weapons was enough for me to hope the common man never gets good gear/weapons ever again

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You're just some guy playing a video game. You ARE the common man.

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Originally Posted by Camiie

You're just some guy playing a video game. You ARE the common man.

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This. Also, the comedy of the self-proclaimed video game elitists not knowing how to spell will never get old for me.

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Originally Posted by JohnGotti

Gotta keep the common man down imo. The ego the common man got once they first got there hands on empyrean weapons was enough for me to hope the common man never gets good gear/weapons ever again

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the ego the common men got when they got a relic (when it was hard) using other people was way bigger.

the common man hidding behind a lvl1mule calling out other common men ego is even worse

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Originally Posted by Merton9999

This. Also, the comedy of the self-proclaimed video game elitists not knowing how to spell will never get old for me.

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Unfortunately, you don't need an education to play a video game or post on the internet. Personally I'd like to see a system where you get benned from the forums after 10 spelling mistakes/grammatical errors that aren't corrected, or 5 in the same post.

But that's just me :) I blame my father.

you guys seem to forget.... you can still convert cruor to gil by using displacers on bosses in vw and charging the fee for the displacer.

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Originally Posted by hiko

the ego the common men got when they got a relic (when it was hard) using other people was way bigger.

the common man hidding behind a lvl1mule calling out other common men ego is even worse

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At least that ego was well deserved, empyrean weapons were a joke to make from the get go and as i said the common man ego was huge heck half the time the common scumbags wouldn't even talk to you when you tried to speak to them in abyssea there ego was so huge.

A level 30 mule calling out a level 1 mule classic.

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Personally I'd like to see a system where you get benned from the forums after 10 spelling mistakes/grammatical errors

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Lolz were had

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Originally Posted by Babekeke

Personally I'd like to see a system where you get benned from the forums after 10 spelling mistakes/grammatical errors that aren't corrected, or 5 in the same post.

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9 more to go.

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Originally Posted by Babekeke

Unfortunately, you don't need an education to play a video game or post on the internet. Personally I'd like to see a system where you get benned from the forums after 10 spelling mistakes/grammatical errors that aren't corrected, or 5 in the same post.

But that's just me :) I blame my father.

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I'd welcome that change. I always thought a perfect spell for SCH would be an Embrava style buff that scaled by the relative education level evident in your forum posts. If you can't use "it's" and "its" correctly or insist on inserting apostrophes just to pluralize worlds, then your character can only get 1% Haste!

Wow grammar natzi all up in this place

Mordu quetz number 1 nobody but least he spell eh

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Originally Posted by Iakothm

you guys seem to forget.... you can still convert cruor to gil by using displacers on bosses in vw and charging the fee for the displacer.

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Displacers are bought with gil only, not cruor. That won't work.

Thats partly why cruor sucks now as well.

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Originally Posted by Hashmalum

Displacers are bought with gil only, not cruor. That won't work.

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oh oops my bad I thought it was the other way around never bought em before

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Originally Posted by hiko

a relic (when it was hard)

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You're trying too hard.

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Originally Posted by Hashmalum

Displacers are bought with gil only, not cruor. That won't work.

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They should make cruors be useful for buying other items in Voidwatch. It is the only currency where you get to keep it and cannot be traded in the traditional sense.

Can't cruor be traded in the traditional sense?

If you mean the only currency that can't be directly transferred in a trade window, that's false too. IS, AN and CP are currencies in the same fashion as Cruor is, and these can't be traded without first being converted to gil either.

Cruor used to be a great ideas, you farm them, trade for items, sell those items, make gil. In essence you are farming gil, the same way you are farming stackable items to sell to NPC or AH. The difference is you get to amass cruor easily compared to the normal farming methods. And you can have multiple mules set this way and repeat. Just a more convenient efficient ways of making gil in vast amount. Which you would think will render gil somewhat useless other than for buying ancient currency, alexandrite, and all those magian trial weapon items. Still don't understand why this is a problem. If you want the do things faster, you are buying other people's time and effort to cut down your own. Basic economy.

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Originally Posted by Luvbunny

Cruor used to be a great ideas, you farm them, trade for items, sell those items, make gil. In essence you are farming gil, the same way you are farming stackable items to sell to NPC or AH. The difference is you get to amass cruor easily compared to the normal farming methods. And you can have multiple mules set this way and repeat. Just a more convenient efficient ways of making gil in vast amount. Which you would think will render gil somewhat useless other than for buying ancient currency, alexandrite, and all those magian trial weapon items. Still don't understand why this is a problem. If you want the do things faster, you are buying other people's time and effort to cut down your own. Basic economy.

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farming in mass like that is the problem your mules are doing nothing just sitting there unlike farming regular items. Regular items if you have a mule along don't go into every single players inventory every single kill.

Hence cruor farming is very democratic. Those second account is not free btw. What is different is when you are farming kindred crest or crafting materials, the drop per kill is generally less, but when you are bringing your mules - you are basically bringing inventory slots, and have 14 slots in AH available to use, plus 80 slots for mules to bazaar or holding craft materials for mass crafting and selling later. More time needed to get things done instead of just converting items bought via cruors into gil. Same difference, one method is slightly more efficient than the other.

And we do know that SE hates efficiency in this game. If you found good strategy for winning the content most of the time, chances are it will be adjusted soon enough to make sure that it will not be workable in the future. And yet they are not adjusting said content that made players came up with the winning strategy in the first place. I understand it's all about balance - but Abyssea is balance, Neo Dynamis is balance, Assault, Salvage, Limbus and Einherjar is balance. You put effort, for a certain amount of time, and get rewarded a little toward the bigger goal.

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Originally Posted by Luvbunny

Hence cruor farming is very democratic. Those second account is not free btw. What is different is when you are farming kindred crest or crafting materials, the drop per kill is generally less, but when you are bringing your mules - you are basically bringing inventory slots, and have 14 slots in AH available to use, plus 80 slots for mules to bazaar or holding craft materials for mass crafting and selling later. More time needed to get things done instead of just converting items bought via cruors into gil. Same difference, one method is slightly more efficient than the other.

And we do know that SE hates efficiency in this game. If you found good strategy for winning the content most of the time, chances are it will be adjusted soon enough to make sure that it will not be workable in the future. And yet they are not adjusting said content that made players came up with the winning strategy in the first place. I understand it's all about balance - but Abyssea is balance, Neo Dynamis is balance, Assault, Salvage, Limbus and Einherjar is balance. You put effort, for a certain amount of time, and get rewarded a little toward the bigger goal.

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Let me point this out
Normal: kill 1 mob get 1 drop maybe
Abyssea: Kill 1 mob get drops for entire party every kill

difference? I think it's obvious

Also you can still make money in aby just go to Dom ops parties and use dom op points to get weapons and npc them.

Yup, until the next update that will prevent you to do just that. So instead of fell cleave party, we will see the resurgence of dom ops party again, just like in fall of 2010-summer 2011 before the worm party took over for good lol. Obviously there are still gil to be made, selling pop items in AH and what not. The blinkers fiasco never really affect me at all, good things if it get rid all those afk fell cleave party that encroach at camps where people need it for skill up. And all the better if it can wipe clean those gilsellers from sending you random tells.

I'm sitting on 1.5 mil cruor right now...absolutely useless to me unless I wanna brew something, and who's heard of mages brewing stuff?

(For the record, I did brew Shinryu as a SCH before--awesome damage until he healed half his life again -.- So I know mages do brew stuff :P)

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Originally Posted by Iakothm

Also you can still make money in aby just go to Dom ops parties and use dom op points to get weapons and npc them.

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For now you can. How long until they nerf that?

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Originally Posted by IvyKyori

I'm sitting on 1.5 mil cruor right now...absolutely useless to me unless I wanna brew something, and who's heard of mages brewing stuff?

(For the record, I did brew Shinryu as a SCH before--awesome damage until he healed half his life again -.- So I know mages do brew stuff :P)

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Brews are for Abyssea only, but there's also Voidwatch, which runs on cruor.

Really before the blinker nerf, you could "brew" VW once a week... I mean through cruor>gil rates it was 1 cruor = 2.595 gil which meant 200k cruor (a brew) was 519k gil, and 519k gil is more than 500k which was needed for 5 Voidclusters, 5 make nearly any VWNM soloable easily, and so effortless that its basically no different than a brew, except your chances at a drop are laughable.