even though some of the plot line for said event did change... But you not need wiki for seasonal events >.>;;Quote:
Originally Posted by Modoru
So... Mumor...
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07-31-2012, 03:49 PMRosina
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07-31-2012, 03:54 PMModoruMaybe so, but those cases in severity would imply you wouldn't even BE here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rosina
Yes! Yes you have! Multiple times! You did it last year, too!Quote:
Second I never used it as an excuse.
I never said you had one, but even then, you should be able to re-read what you type and think "oh, I misspelled this word, I should fix it".Quote:
As is the ability to use a form of spell checker.
I am not doubting your academic career, nor do I really care. Books have blocks of text, yes, but they are separated into paragraphs where necessary -- and in the case of essays or informative writings, they're also divided into sections with bullets and the like.Quote:
You may not believe this is true, but while in school w/o help. I infact got A's and B's for my writing. B's only due to my penminship. If I had a means to use spell checker, i would use it. If I had a grammar checker I would use. But on the Ps3 there are no such tools. As for block of text... I'm sure you guys read books... That is basic form of text set up any book. Also, with just the text I hit the limit the ps3 does infact have when it comes typing.
I tried being understanding with you, and I have not followed every single post of yours, but you must admit that you, too, do attack others and make certain claims that aren't necessarily true. I don't have a problem with you, I just have a problem with the way you make yourself a victim.Quote:
At some point you guys need to be understanding as well. And not solely put blame on me.
Specifically, I don't agree with the way some people don't really try to explain themselves when they refer to you -- as it stops being relevant and just becomes personal.
TL;DR: Mumor was a boring event and we need something more interesting. -
07-31-2012, 03:58 PMRosina
If you need wiki to do a season event that pretty weird. The moogle infact explains exaxtly what to do. And SE tells you the reward stuff on the event page before you log in. Why update a wiki when SE does it for them.
But honestly guys...
How much of you guy are actually trying to be on topic? And how much are posting for the pleasure to further berate me? Think shadowsong pretty much summed up what I've been trying to stop happening.
Insulting a person with an OT remark is pretty silly. More so when they know the reasoning behind it. At somepoint people just need to leave me alone with it. I'm not the big troll ppl assume am. I am being honest in what I have, how it effects me, and what I use to post on and the reason for it. Just people want to see it they way they want to. I do find it hilarious everyone "JUST HAPPENS" to know someone with ADD... and how they "just happen" to not have the issues I have. I'd like to meet these "people" as I'm the only one I know out of everyone I know who has ADD. -
07-31-2012, 04:02 PMModoru
Speaking honestly, ADD isn't exactly rare nowadays. My best friend has ADHD, one of my friends in uni has ADD and she struggles tremendously with studies, but we work her through it. If you don't know anyone with it, you may have not really expanded your connections, but you will find that it's not as rare as you make it seem. s:
TL;DR On another note, Fish scooping sucked for me back when I was starting out. Those damn goldfish kept breaking my scooper. >:l -
07-31-2012, 04:05 PMEricJesus Christ. That's pathetic, Rosina.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rosina
Please don't use ADD as an excuse for the way you carry yourself on this forum. It's embarrassing on my behalf to see you flaunt it around the way you do in an attempt to protect yourself. It makes other people with ADD look bad.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but you're not special. You're not the only person on this forum with ADD, but you don't see anyone else claiming that it's the cause for their stupid posts. -
07-31-2012, 04:15 PMRosina
@ Mo
I never said it was rare. But it is hareditary(sp?) (pass on from chi;d and parent) ADD effects people different. You also shpuld realise that people insulted my typing well before I ever mentioned it... and only AFTER i said I do not do a few things. I only tried to explain that I have ADD, tried to explain how it effects me. And instead of being grown ups and cutting a lil slack, they continue to berate me. If you met me in person, or at least talk to me in game you would realise I'm not a bad person. Just misunderstood because how my typing reads like. Sometimes even rereading I do not see errors I also see people make spelling/ grammar all the time. I do not sit here and berate them. I don't bother correcting it. If i am THAT confused by it I try to ask what they mean. About the attacking... if anything it is on the defensive. -
07-31-2012, 04:20 PMRosinai can Say the same for yourself... why do you need to berate me for ing I have it as to inform people I do. Anyone and everyone who has ADD know it is hard to control. Most so if you have no tools to help. I'm not sayng it to be special. I'm not flaunting it. I;m saying it solely inform the ignorant. No one this earth ny reason to do what you just do as in go out of their way to repeatedly insult a person for the same thing like a broken record. If my typing is THAT hard go over my post. You do noeed to comment on my typing.Quote:
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07-31-2012, 04:27 PMRosina
@Mo pretty mych let me explain it like this.
People are just using my issues as an excuse to further bully me because they dislike my opinions. They dislike how I play, and they dislike how I personally do not care what they think. They only me to play like them, I get insults flung at me daily on this forum. Never in game, aside my style of rdm. But I was adult about it and just opted out. So one needs to think on the "why" i'm getting insulted rather then what I'm getting insulted for.
I also do not give anyone with ADD a name. I just did the adult thing to stop insults. Which was to explain the situation on why my typing sucks. But also to say I do try my best. Which by everyones standers is NEVER good enough. I do try to seperate my text. I do try proof reading, if I had SC and GC i'd use those as well. But a Line has to be drawn some place. -
07-31-2012, 04:30 PMRosina
Not an excuse... but I did just get a new keyboard so if my stuff is missing letters it is from that. >.>;; idk i've been having issues all day. And before you all anything. I did say in a few places that my old keyboard broke and I getting a new one.
But I'd like to point out... before people get on my case for being off topic i didn't start it. Only doing the adult thing and reply to those who insult me to make it stop. So they can stop derailing threads Just because I post in them. -
07-31-2012, 05:04 PMRosinaMy point proven... thanks shadow. I knew you was going to bring all that up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowsong
My only retort... if people do not care. Why do you go out of your way to insult for things i can't control. All i ever did was explain things like a human adult female. All i have ever got was insults as if being were human children at daycare. -
07-31-2012, 05:08 PMRosina
for the post count, even a human child in understanding when people can't control everything. Shadow... you do realise you have no right to pretty much do what you are doing to me. And you have no reason to do so. I explained what I needed to. The ball was in everyones court and decided to foul then score a point. i Fully believe that i should never have to explain anything. It isn't there place. I only felt i had to because I unjustly insulted for things i can't control. So really either understand that or be an ignorant bully on the net all your life. Thats is more pathetic then my typing. Ur acting like i WANT to keep saying it. infact I don't. I don't like having to repeat myself but if the same insults are coming from the same people, you got to put two and two together.
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07-31-2012, 05:35 PMRosina
ok every time i try to edit the my post my ps3 freezes ><
so ima just post the basic here.
Shadowsong and everyone else. I simply ask, and have been asking since day one to please for christ sake STOP insulting me for everything. STOP twisting my words around. If what I type is a hard read point out POLITELY which part. I will try to fix said part or better state it. Acting like a 4 year old bully stoning a person for their typinghile knowing the reasons pathetic. So so what if my typing isn't the best... I see you guys make errors all the time. Hell have the time you type stuff ouy like: "lol nub... you suck." really nub? I don't not see a ton of people doing perfect grammar/writting essay posts.
as for the poster who posted a comment about "me being the y one I knew with ADD" You took that out of complete context. It was to point out that everyone seems to know a person with ADD. Do you not find that a lil suspisous? Everyone seems to know about ADD... or know people with ADD... yet fail at the basic -
07-31-2012, 05:42 PMRosina
understanding of whatDD is, or what it can effect, or how it affects it. Or understand it differs from person to person. It isn't some lump of everyone who has ADD does this, this and that. It varies to much. Also since the mid 90s ADD has been wrongly diagnosed by doctors. Meaning they tell parents theor kid has it... just to get them to take pills because the parent is too stressed out to deal with their own child. I know I have it I know how it affects me. All i ever did was try to explain it to stop the insults I was getting. In no way did I ever intend for it to be an excuse. I dislike being pittied. But i also dislike unjustly getting insulted for thing i can't control. Yoyu guys need to 1) accept i can't or 2) just over look my post.
Qouting my comments just to insult me or my spelling is pathetic. -
07-31-2012, 05:46 PMDemon6324236
Rosina you list these things off more often then SE tells us "balance"... Excuses are excuses, you are the one who likes to point them out to everyone, if you don't like people bringing it up, then stop telling people about it, simple fix. If people persist to do what you claim then simply leave the forums, you claim everyone only argues with you and berates you, so why stay? You want to give your opinion on the game? No one listens apparently, so thats not really doing much.
If you don't care what they think then why fight back, just walk away, leave them to their ignorance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rosina
The adult thing is to turn it into a giant pissing contest? Sorry, I guess I'm still very immature, I choose not to fight in most cases, most of the time I just turn around and walk away, ignoring people who do nothing except make themselves look insulting and foolish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rosina
Now as for the beginning of this all...Quote:
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To explain, this started when you misunderstood what someone meant, which led to what created this. To explain however part of what led to this was something you ignored. Look at 2 of these comments...Quote:
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That last line alone is not about Mumor, rather then entire event itself. That single comment from you was quoted a few times by different people and led to what this has become.Quote:
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You blame everyone but yourself in this, but you never step back and see that you are at least somewhat to blame. You were partly the cause of this entire thing, please don't fool yourself thinking otherwise. -
07-31-2012, 07:16 PMDemon6324236Think Shadow meant more that they will be temp banned for telling someone to "SHUT THE FUCK UP" since mods probably wouldn't be to happy about it.Quote:
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07-31-2012, 09:01 PMfernando
just leave the girl alone you ppl talking shit is worseerer, now about spelling, tell your government about it maybe they will fix the schools like they fixed the economy,and if that happens feel free to bash us all for any typo we may have going forward
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07-31-2012, 09:09 PMEurell
You're right. It's the governments fault if someone can't spell.
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07-31-2012, 09:39 PMfernando
i hate being right but it happens here and there.
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07-31-2012, 11:15 PMTamoa
Did I feel a bit of a breeze in here just now?
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07-31-2012, 11:25 PMCamiie
I still think we should be participants in the stage show somehow rather than acting as "fans." I'd like to see something a bit more action oriented and interactive. It'd be cool if we could be transported to a battlefield set up like a stage show. Heck, even something done using interactive cut scenes could be better than what we have now.
This is where concepts like phasing and instancing could really shine. Oh well ;_; -
08-01-2012, 01:09 AMAnapingofnessIf the event was like that it would be pretty cool. I'm up for more of that delicious interaction and action >D!Quote:
Originally Posted by Camiie
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08-01-2012, 02:06 AMTeraniku
There's an idea. SE next year have Mumor discover the maws, and go into the past to rally the troops during the Crystal War. That way Once her enemy attacks, We can help participate by fighting along side her.
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08-01-2012, 05:26 AMgeekgirl101
Wow, talk about a derailing topic... I was at least hoping someone might've asked how you get the +1 gear here, not people megabashing each other.
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08-01-2012, 07:09 AMIakothm
to get the +1 version of the gear you just sync with her again and talk to the moogle.
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08-01-2012, 09:07 AMTheytakHow about this, I have Predominately Inattentive ADHD (this is the formal name, ADD is not medically correct), and was diagnosed with it when I was 13. It's symptoms are regular, and have continued even to today, 7 years later. I have been on medication to treat it for 7 years (Initially Concerta, then Vyvanse after I turned 18), and said medication works properly. If you have ADHD and do not take your medication, you have no right to use it as a justification for anything, because the proper medication (note that some people only respond to certain medications, and get no benefit from others, so it's something that needs to be tried out with a psychiatrist's assistance) would fix anything caused by being inattentive. Additionally, being inattentive does not, in any way, justify the level of atrociousness present in your grammar and spelling. That you claim to have gotten moderately high grades for your compositional abilities, yet you communicate this poorly, implies that either you're simply lying, that your classes were incredibly easy, or that your teacher was very bad at their job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rosina
That said, spelling and grammar have no impact on whether someone is right or wrong (except when similarly spelled words with opposite meanings are involved, in which case it's an issue of apparent meaning). They do, however, make it incredibly difficult to communicate, because trying to read a post that looks like a 13 year old typed it with their toes causes headaches, and headaches lead to short tempers, which leads to pointless arguments.
Some people argue that "I don't need to be grammatically correct, or spell things correctly, on the internet," because, "I type the way I speak" or "I'm relaxing, and don't want to put any thought into it" however, the former is almost never the case (as can be proven by simply reading most of said posts out loud) and the latter is simply an excuse to be lazy, and not a justifiable argument. Additionally, there is absolutely no reason to be lazy with your spelling, when both Firefox and Chrome have readily available free spellcheck plugins that will point out your spelling mistakes and correct them with a simple click or two. If you're using IE, that probably has one as well, but you should really stop using IE.
yea... no... Yes, ADHD has been shown to be a genetic disorder in the majority of individuals (according to twin studies, anyway), but the general symptoms are the same for everyone. The degree of severity, differs, and which symptoms any given individual case experiences will vary somewhat, but it's not a matter of "every single case is different" or else it would be impossible to properly classify and diagnose it. Besides, ADHD really has absolutely no relation to your inability to properly spell, just your inability to notice that you fucked up your spelling. ADHD is not a fucking justification for terrible communication skills; my own ADHD tends towards the more severe side of the inattentive symptoms, and even if I go a month without my meds, my grammar and spelling are still nearly perfect, even if I can't focus to retain my train of thought for more than 5 seconds. You're just lazy and don't want to admit it, don't use ADHD as crutch, because it makes the rest of us who have it look bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rosina
That, and people are going to continue attacking your spelling and grammar until you stop typing like a 13 year old kid who's never touched a keyboard before. Seriously, I don't have anything against you, but I cannot read your posts without getting a headache, because they're like reading youtube comments. Get Firefox or Chrome, get a spell check plug in, and then for a few days, before you post something, read it out loud and see how the pacing sounds. It will do wonders for your ability to convey what you're trying to say, and greatly improve how people view you, because poor grammar and spelling severely reduce one's apparent intelligence, regardless of how smart they actually are. -
08-01-2012, 01:37 PMcidbahamut
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08-01-2012, 05:45 PMTrisscarThere was an event way back when where you had to fight Dynamis skinned beast men in the three strongholds. If the Mumor event had you fighting with her in BCNM against something like that it would be cool. Stake some money on it and get return based upon some kind of style system and I believe you have a winner.Quote:
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08-01-2012, 07:21 PMRosina
Theytak
i hate to ask this, but where is you get your info about it? I was diagnosed @ 7-8 years old. Been on ritalin from second grade to 12th grade. I didn't like the effect I had it. But most of your info is incorrect. Not all doctors are fully aware of ADD/ADHD. And they stupedly lumped it under one catagory. No 2 people actually have the same symtopms or have the same level of them. You guys twist my words WAY to much. But here is the big thing, taking meds will not make me type better. I also want to ask if you actually had a neurological exam along with the 3-4 page testing as well as cognitive testing. As i repeatedly said doctors just lable ppl with ADD/ADHD. I also read some pamphlets that also gave wrong info about it... Doctoters today do not know much about ADD/ADHD heck some don't even know about SVT...
But why should I be temp ban.... you guys started with me first. You guys gets on my case first... And you guys START the topic first. I didn't bring up my ADD once when I first posted. -
08-01-2012, 07:30 PMRosina
Also the mumor event isn't rehashed as much. I like it. I also like her eternal vana Illusion move. The bikini isn't a reskill either really and if you look closely on the females the nails are painted white. As for a bcnm fight.... There already is one for 75+ in the new battle event. You guys got to remember level 1s are suppose to be able to do these holiday events.
I personally think SE did a good job with the mumor protion of the event.
If you dislike this part of the event just don't do it. There is still goldfish scooping and the 3 mini games. Don't ruin the event for those who do like it be calling for it removal. Thats not very fair thing to ask for because of ur dislike on how the mini game plays out. I personally like the mini game. -
08-01-2012, 08:41 PMTamoaIf you didn't bring the subject up, how do we even know that you have ADD in the first place?Quote:
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Going to assume "reskill" is supposed to be reskin. Do you even know what reskin means? I think not.Quote:
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08-01-2012, 10:01 PMInfidiI thought it was fairly obvious it was supposed to be reskin. ^^ Little harsh there.Quote:
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08-01-2012, 10:08 PMDemon6324236Look back at my last post, as I showed, you were the 1st one to take what someone said out of context, assume they were all RWAR:mad: and then it all started from there. You at the same time ignored the last thing they said, and said they only complained about a character, rather than the event, which was wrong because that entire last part was about the event as a whole.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rosina
You assume everyone is out to get you or something. For me its actually that I see threads like this one spiral down a bad path due to the fact you post in them, and all hell breaks loose shortly thereafter. That is not to say you are not welcome to post, but don't think everyone is after you trying to strike down your words as we are villains trying to do evil by following and picking on a single person.
Seriously, take a step back, look at where things began in this thread, and look over my last post. Not only that, but look in all threads real quick, where you are or arnt present. See if people really are following you and trying to burn you like a little kid trying to light an ant on fire with their magnifying glass. Most people who you claim are following and stalking you on these forums are actually present in many threads around the place. I see them in RDM, Battle Content, here, the main 3 places I post. They are also posting in many of the same threads. They arnt stalking me, trust me, I'm not nearly worth that kind of attention :p they are just people like me who post on a forum, and coincidentally in many of the same threads as me. -
08-02-2012, 12:37 AMTrisscar
Someone mind telling me why people allowed Rosina derail the conversation to be about her yet again?
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08-02-2012, 02:00 AMTheytakWhere did I get my info? The DSM-IV. I'm thinking that if any source is going to reliable, it's probably the APA. You've read some pamphlets? That's cute. I've read a couple of the twin studies' journal publications, as well as other publications on ADHD. I'm a psychology major, after all, I live for this stuff (insert lolinternetpsychmajor here). Yes, I did take all of those tests. And no, you're misunderstanding the variation of symptoms. Personal experience differs, but the root cause and the basic symptoms are always close enough to a single type to be identifiable. If every single individual experienced ADHD so differently that none of them could agree on what it does, it would simply be impossible to categorize and diagnose with any degree of accuracy. There are always similarities.Quote:
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Also, I made the same point about meds not helping your spelling, because they don't do anything for mine. Your ADHD has absolutely nothing to do with your inability to use proper spelling or grammar. That's entirely on you simply being lazy. Your ADHD is not an excuse for typing with your feet, so don't try to use it as such, especially when you have no idea what you're talking about, thanks. -
08-02-2012, 02:12 AMoliveira
Not supposed to mean an attack to any party here, but how you make it easy on everyone here in the most mature fashion ?
By completely ignoring who ever is being disruptive.
The person disrupting the conversation will either get bored and stop being annoying or will step up with the abuse, resulting in moderation. Just don't reply or fight back and things will eventually get back to normal levels.
Back into the topic, while I was doing the event yesterday I noticed that this time Mumor will lose and get KO'd if there's not enough people cheering for her. Interesting change. -
08-02-2012, 02:56 AMTheytakI'm of the opinion that the "lalalala, I can't hear you, lalalala" approach you're suggesting is not particularly mature. Pointing out to someone that there are flaws in their posting method that make it difficult to read their posts, or to understand their points, regardless of their validity, and offering them advice on how to correct that issue is really the more mature approach. The problem lies in just how people go about pointing out said flaws.Quote:
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My point is, by what I've seeing here... People have been trying that for a while already, no ? -
08-02-2012, 08:12 AMscaevolaTurning Mumor into the canonical savior of the Crystal War would be such a straight-up hilarious way to shoot the shaggy dog I can't help but support this idea.Quote:
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08-02-2012, 08:46 AMSp1cyryan
So collecting eggs, following around Prince Yahiko, herding buffalo for the same prizes every year, and so on is better than Mumor?
At least Mumor and the prizes change yearly. Feast of Swords never does.
The Sunbreeze Festival is easily the best (or in the top two) of the seasonal events in FFXI and Mumor is a big part of that. -
08-02-2012, 11:19 AMGarotaI guess she hit puberty? How many more Summer Fests 'til she's legal?Quote:
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