Remove experience points

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Originally Posted by Vivik

SE should sticky this thread so that everyone who comes here will know how the players feel about leveling and the snorefest otherwise known as xp parties.

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That true, sad they deleted my thread about magic button lol They probably gonna end to delete this one too :P

Go go easy mode, after no more experience they just need to add: On creation you get all Gear as well.

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Originally Posted by Alkalinehoe

Stupid minimum character count...

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I too have felt your pain.

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Originally Posted by rog

Leveling is currently so quick in abyssea, and more often than not people simply leech in parties without actually doing anything. This leeching provides no benefit, and i suggest that instead of making us do this, instead remove experience points from the game entirely, and simply have everyone start at level 99, without needing to exp at all.

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This is the craziest thing I've heard you say. Just...crazy...You're crazy!

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Originally Posted by Vivik

SE should sticky this thread so that everyone who comes here will know how the players feel about leveling and the snorefest otherwise known as xp parties.

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To me xpin was always boring nothing exciting doing the same move over and over to get 40k xp in 4 hours at least with abyssea i get to blow past that boringness and get to do endgame or solo stuff with full benefits of a job

I think when you sign up to this forum, you should have to take an IQ test, then the score you recieved should be displayed next to your name every time you post!

There are some benefits to exping. You can obtain crystals, which can be sold or used for crafting. You can also get items that can be used in crafting. You can get items that you can use to finish quests to increase fame.

If a new person starts and takes 2 jobs (Main/Sub) up to 30 in a week, and then leeches them to 90 in a few days, he/she has no Gil, their mog house is at 50 and their gobbie bag is at 30. I hear a lot of complaining about storage space. This must be killer for those collecting seals and such.

In my opinion, exping helps gain fame, gil and experience.

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Originally Posted by wish12oz

I think when you sign up to this forum, you should have to take an IQ test, then the score you recieved should be displayed next to your name every time you post!

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This, but the test only needs one question:

Are gear swapping and haste two of the most effective ways to improve playing FFXI?

If answered correctly, "Congratulations, you can contribute to this forum"
If answered incorrectly, "I'm sorry, better stick to WoW"

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Originally Posted by Wade

There are some benefits to exping. You can obtain crystals, which can be sold

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Sorry, you lost me at xping to sell crystals...

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Originally Posted by Vivik

Sorry, you lost me at xping to sell crystals...

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This is one of the ways new people make Gil, unless you would just rather them buy gil from an RMT.

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Originally Posted by Wade

This is one of the ways new people make Gil, unless you would just rather them buy gil from an RMT.

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Or leech to 90 and cruor farm because that's what people that leech from level 30 do. The point is not that leeching at level 1 is great. The point is there is little to no difference than starting at level 30

To stay on topic though, removing xp and starting at level 99 would be the best idea seeing how leveling to 90 is just so ridiculously easy now. Get rid of the xp and just cruor farm your hearts out for gear.

Sorry I should have clarified, my post was in response to Ezikiel's post above.

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Originally Posted by Vivik

SE should sticky this thread so that everyone who comes here will know how the players feel about leveling and the snorefest otherwise known as xp parties.

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What the hell is an "XP party"? shinanigans!

Kinda reminds me of that quote from the matrix.

Agent Smith> "Did you know that the first Matrix was designed to be a perfect human world, where none suffered, where everyone would be happy? It was a disaster. No one would accept the program, entire crops were lost. Some believed we lacked the programming language to describe your perfect world, but I believe that, as a species, human beings define their reality through misery and suffering."

I think the same would happen here. Players would start to die if there were no pain and no suffering in the mmo (o-o)

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Originally Posted by CrystalWeapon

Kinda reminds me of that quote from the matrix.

Agent Smith> "Did you know that the first Matrix was designed to be a perfect human world, where none suffered, where everyone would be happy? It was a disaster. No one would accept the program, entire crops were lost. Some believed we lacked the programming language to describe your perfect world, but I believe that, as a species, human beings define their reality through misery and suffering."

I think the same would happen here. Players would start to die if there were no pain and no suffering in the mmo (o-o)

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Ying/Yang....

SE could give you everything easy, you would just not appreciate the game at all, or they can put the bar freaking high then you have a reason to be happy.

Same as your house, comfort, security and so on that you never notice everyday, go live in Afganistan, Africa or country like that, and you would appreciate more what you have...

Ying/Yang....

I would much rather have a JP Button. Would solve everything imo

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Originally Posted by Lexin

I would much rather have a JP Button. Would solve everything imo

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Then what you would do? I have all my job 90, all my job was 75 pre-abyssea, You think the lol-abyssea experience was a challenge for me..... SE could have make a special button that bring everyone to 90 imo that would be the same, because don't tell me leeching in a PT 20 job is any accomplishment in it.... Wait i am wrong again, is an accomplishment to not have been kicked out of all PT you joined, but hey outside that part?

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Originally Posted by Ilax

Then what you would do? I have all my job 90, all my job was 75 pre-abyssea, You think the lol-abyssea experience was a challenge for me..... SE could have make a special button that bring everyone to 90 imo that would be the same, because don't tell me leeching in a PT 20 job is any accomplishment in it.... Wait i am wrong again, is an accomplishment to not have been kicked out of all PT you joined, but hey outside that part?

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Was sarcasm...

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Originally Posted by Lexin

Was sarcasm...

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So was my post about that magic button where you get all JOB 90, get all best gear of the game, win 10,000$ on your credit card every time you press on the button, weird SE deleted the thread after 10 min...

All i hope is SE don't listen 95% of what people say in many thread, or i gonna end to have as much fun play a pac-man game then i do playing FFXI.

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Originally Posted by Ilax

So was my post about that magic button where you get all JOB 90, get all best gear of the game, win 10,000$ on your credit card every time you press on the button, weird SE deleted the thread after 10 min...

All i hope is SE don't listen 95% of what people say in many thread, or i gonna end to have as much fun play a pac-man game then i do playing FFXI.

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Pac man is pretty challenging.

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

Pac man is pretty challenging.

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it is yes, more then leech in abyssea lmao, oh well i need afk cry in a corner now :(

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SE could have make a special button that bring everyone to 90 imo that would be the same, because don't tell me leeching in a PT 20 job is any accomplishment in it

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A much better idea is to just prompt you with a once a life time choice.
Easy, Normal, Hard mode.

Easy is 250% exp bonus, 100% drop rate, Zone teleport.
Normal is 100% exp, 10% drop rate, limited teleport NPCs.
Hard is 10% exp, 1% drop rate, no transportation options.

That way everyone can play just how they want.

PS. Easy gets a free relic/mythic/empyrean. Hard gets blocked from the Ninja job and can't receive the effect of haste.

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Originally Posted by Ilax

Ying/Yang....

SE could give you everything easy, you would just not appreciate the game at all, or they can put the bar freaking high then you have a reason to be happy.

Same as your house, comfort, security and so on that you never notice everyday, go live in Afganistan, Africa or country like that, and you would appreciate more what you have...

Ying/Yang....

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You seem to have alot of anger issues in most of your posts Ilax, relax a little. *puts a chocobo on your head*

The quote was a joke and a play on how most players in XI are against every aspect of the game going to easy mode, they rather suffer a little.

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Originally Posted by Malamasala

A much better idea is to just prompt you with a once a life time choice.

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That a nice way to call me no life for playing FFXI? To answer it, it was my personal choice to do all these job, i agree i have more free time then general player, but to say i am a 'no-life' just because of it that was an free attack.

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Originally Posted by CrystalWeapon

You seem to have alot of anger issues in most of your posts Ilax, relax a little. *puts a chocobo on your head*

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My only anger is about how people keep QQ for everything without thinking over they nose, and i am sorry but it not helping my anger when i see DEV give more content to casual player (that is btw nice) and then see these same people come back and ask to DEV to make it even more easy.

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Originally Posted by Malamasala

The quote was a joke and a play on how most players in XI are against every aspect of the game going to easy mode, they rather suffer a little.

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So mine was, at some point i hardly make the difference between some sarcasm and some that take it serious, seem like your comment just excite more lazy people and just frustrate hardcore player. Of course don't expect do such of comment and have no one reply. You find that funny to troll? So do i...

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Originally Posted by Ilax

My only anger is about how people keep QQ for everything without thinking over they nose, and i am sorry but it not helping my anger when i see DEV give more content to casual player (that is btw nice) and then see these same people come back and ask to DEV to make it even more easy.






So mine was, at some point i hardly make the difference between some sarcasm and some that take it serious, seem like your comment just excite more lazy people and just frustrate hardcore player. Of course don't expect do such of comment and have no one reply. You find that funny to troll? So do i...

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I think you're just one of those "I did everything the hard way so everyone else should" people, am I wrong?

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Originally Posted by rog

Leveling is currently so quick in abyssea, and more often than not people simply leech in parties without actually doing anything. This leeching provides no benefit, and i suggest that instead of making us do this, instead remove experience points from the game entirely, and simply have everyone start at level 99, without needing to exp at all.

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....lol you so funny rog....

Yes, lets get rid of experience points, give everyone 1 billion gil, level all crafts, give them all relic armor etc etc.. (Sigh..). If people have this attitude they should just shut the servers down for good. I'm only saying this cause I've been playing for 3 months, it's okay for people who've been playing for 3+ years.

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Originally Posted by Bongs

Yes, lets get rid of experience points, give everyone 1 billion gil, level all crafts, give them all relic armor etc etc..

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I agree, that would make going into abyssea much more fun. Why bother with all of the timesink.

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Originally Posted by Bongs

Yes, lets get rid of experience points, give everyone 1 billion gil, level all crafts, give them all relic armor etc etc.. (Sigh..). If people have this attitude they should just shut the servers down for good. I'm only saying this cause I've been playing for 3 months, it's okay for people who've been playing for 3+ years.

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No, you are missing the point. Leveling is NOT something most people enjoy. So why have it? The game would function just fine without exp. It wouldn't really be a whole lot different than it is now. Except we wouldn't have to waste our time sitting around all day in abyssea leeching exp.

Also, for those that are confused about this, i actually wasn't joking. I see no reason we need exp. Or why we should even want it for that matter. Maybe removing it entirely is a bit overkill, but at the very least, i do think exp should be even easier to get than it already is.

I think they should also pay us for playing their game too. :D

How about a ninja update where all people who leech or open boxes actually lose a level then get kicked from Abyssea automatically once they hit 29.

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Originally Posted by Niklz

How about a ninja update where all people who leech or open boxes actually lose a level then get kicked from Abyssea automatically once they hit 29.

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Opening boxes loses you a level? That seems a bit silly.

My word.. this is a BRILLIANT idea!

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Originally Posted by Dauntless

My word.. this is a BRILLIANT idea!

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Almost as brilliant as your sig on an official forum. But you're not trolling....

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Originally Posted by Ilax

That a nice way to call me no life for playing FFXI? To answer it, it was my personal choice to do all these job, i agree i have more free time then general player, but to say i am a 'no-life' just because of it that was an free attack.

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Uh, I'm not sure what lines you are reading between, but I'm saying that the game should offer everyone a way to enjoy the game. I am however assuming anyone picking Hard is going to change their mind and be tortured forever by their choice and quit. Which I'd find ironic and wonderful since it will prove people complaining about easy mode are just jerks.

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Originally Posted by Vivik

Almost as brilliant as your sig on an official forum. But you're not trolling....

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What, are they gonna ban a character that is inactive?

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Originally Posted by Dauntless

What, are they gonna ban a character that is inactive?

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Or they could just ban the active account you're using to post with.

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Originally Posted by Topdogg

Should just get rid of all the exp in abyssea period. would put this game at a perfect balance and open vana'diel back up.

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They cant drop exp from aby theres no where yt olevel outside of aby for 80+ for decent EXP.. how would we hit 90? just level sync.. no thats stupid. The most simplest way to bring vandeil back and retain balance is to cap aby at 70-75+ problem solved that simple...

Not exping at all is just dumb.. might as well not be an mmo and solo everything at that rate.

Again.......

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Originally Posted by Dauntless

What, are they gonna ban a character that is inactive?

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Originally Posted by rog

Leveling is currently so quick in abyssea, and more often than not people simply leech in parties without actually doing anything. This leeching provides no benefit, and i suggest that instead of making us do this, instead remove experience points from the game entirely, and simply have everyone start at level 99, without needing to exp at all.

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I support this.
I think that people should also have the Transcendency effect (from the Primeval Brew) for at least 72 hours upon each login in order to make content more accessible for new players. Players can choose to "click off" the effect if they wish but can reapply the effect by logging out and logging in. Also the Transcendency effect should stay on in the event of a death and also after zoning. Players who wish to use a Primeval Brew while under the effect of Transcendency will sadly have no effect.

This is how the game will be completely fun for everyone!