Lower The Minimum Level Required To Enter Abyssea from 30-1

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Originally Posted by Alkalinehoe

Capped, tyvm.

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Same here. Had all my skills up to at least 75+ within a day of leeching all the jobs i leeched up.

I think all thief should transfer there hate over to the ppl who are afk etc lol

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Originally Posted by Ezikiel

for all the whiners mad at abyssea get together and go do FoV

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Im not mad at abyssea lol, I like it alot. Though for people to lvl there own jobs to 75 (and having the cap at 75) gives experience to people w/ there jobs thru combat. Shoot I start my own Abyssea Alliances all the time, but leeching is just to easy. I admit I leeched my NIN from 40-66 and I didnt really care to do it. LOL I was sick in bed while doing it also, I just feel like contributing rather than leeching and really that's the only job I have leeched. Skilling up that job is a pain but im getting it done. Hea I know this game is time consuming as it is so really I do appreciate the 30 cap, but some people leech to much and turn into lets say VAMPIRE's lol.

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Originally Posted by Odintius

I think all thief should transfer there hate over to the ppl who are afk etc lol

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i have done that before LMAO

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Originally Posted by Krystal

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I agree it should be Dynamis too. thanks, I completely forgot about Dynamis.

Asking a lady her skills? You disgust me, good sir!
/slap

Edit: dang it replyed to the wrong person. ;o

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Originally Posted by Vivik

I agree it should be Dynamis too. thanks, I completely forgot about Dynamis.

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oh good lord above....it's a fricking troll topic....EVERYONE ABANDON THREAD!!!

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Originally Posted by Odintius

I think all thief should transfer there hate over to the ppl who are afk etc lol

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I've seen that before, lol!

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Originally Posted by Krystal

oh good lord above....it's a fricking troll topic....EVERYONE ABANDON THREAD!!!

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I assure you, this is not a troll topic.

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Originally Posted by Krystal

oh good lord above....it's a fricking troll topic....EVERYONE ABANDON THREAD!!!

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I'm being serious. Why, once you can get xp in Dynamis should there be a required level of 75? Abyssea is 30 and I think it's a load of crap.

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Originally Posted by Alkalinehoe

If you're a remotely good player you shouldn't need to grind 75 levels to learn your job.

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I agree here, but I have played w/ to many 90 jobs that dont do half of what the job can do. Not only cuz of their skills being in the lvl 50 area, but there playing style has fallen in sync yet. So they are all over the place.

I don't have level 1 jobs anymore but I think this is an awesome idea. It would allow me to level my 25 WHM to 90 so that events my LS does don't get canceled when we have 0-1 healer online at the time of gathering. Not that 25-30 is hard just a lot slower on WHM than other jobs.

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Originally Posted by Boldheart

I agree here, but I have played w/ to many 90 jobs that dont do half of what the job can do. Not only cuz of their skills being in the lvl 50 area, but there playing style has fallen in sync yet. So they are all over the place.

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That has been going on since the beginning of the game.

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Originally Posted by Zagen

I don't have level 1 jobs anymore but I think this is an awesome idea. It would allow me to level my 25 WHM to 90 so that events my LS does don't get canceled when we have 0-1 healer online at the time of gathering. Not that 25-30 is hard just a lot slower on WHM than other jobs.

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Exactly my point. level1, level30, doesn't matter anymore.

blah blah blah, so yeh, blah.

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Originally Posted by Boldheart

I agree here, but I have played w/ to many 90 jobs that dont do half of what the job can do. Not only cuz of their skills being in the lvl 50 area, but there playing style has fallen in sync yet. So they are all over the place.

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It's been this way for years. There were just as many stupid 75s who leveled the hard way, back in the day, as there are stupid 90s who leeched in abyssea now.

Lol if abyssea is a "grind" then you're doing it wrong. Macro key run around like an idiot boom 90. I hate leeches as much as the next person, but if someone already did their pre quests for lvl cap and actually opens boxes, then i have no issue with it. And i still have not yet leeched a job to 90 that i didnt have 75 before abyssea release- damn i need to get on that when servers come back up.

me personally i think from the time you log in the very 1st time you should start in abyssea in a party 500 keys, full 120 minutes and an extra 10 stones

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Originally Posted by Ezikiel

me personally i think from the time you log in the very 1st time you should start in abyssea in a party 500 keys, full 120 minutes and an extra 10 stones

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Would be better than starting off with 60 gil like you do now.

Really hope a mod cleans all these abyssea threads... this is getting out of hand:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...80-GM-help-plz

Really sick of this subject coming up. There is no reason to change things here.

My thread is nothing like the other ones.

Unlike the people in other threads crying about wanting the abyssea lvl cap raised, this thread is about taking the logical step and lowering the cap that isnt needed.

SE intended people to leech in abyssea, there is no other excuse for them letting lvl 30 people in. My argument is that there shouldnt be a cap since a lvl 1 will do just as much good as a lvl 30. If SE didnt want people to leech in abyssea, they would have made the cap 65 like dynamis (though you could argue that a 65 is leeching in abyssea).

Why should my thread get merged with a nonsensical topic that has people crying about a mechanic that SE intended from the conception of the event (leeching).

No, the cap must stay at 30. After all, anyone who doesn't level up to 30 without using SMN burns or Abyssea (if possible) is going to be useless at their job and hopelessly gimp.

God, I wish we could have skilful players again.

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Originally Posted by RaenRyong

God, I wish we could have skilful players again.

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Maybe in your dreams. If you're lucky.

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Originally Posted by RaenRyong

No, the cap must stay at 30. After all, anyone who doesn't level up to 30 without using SMN burns or Abyssea (if possible) is going to be useless at their job and hopelessly gimp.

God, I wish we could have skilful players again.

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I am sure many of those 5/5 perle or aurore players you see running around didnt leech their jobs 30-90 in abyssea.

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Originally Posted by Ramsos

I am sure many of those 5/5 perle or aurore players you see running around didnt leech their jobs 30-90 in abyssea.

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I hope not. Back before the diabolic invention of Abyssea when people levelled skilfully, every 75 you saw was a shining example of their job.

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Originally Posted by RaenRyong

I hope not. Back before the diabolic invention of Abyssea when people levelled skilfully, every 75 you saw was a shining example of their job.

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Abyssea was why BG had to invent the Gimp/Confused/WTF player thread, wasn't it?

I think allowing the lv1 in abyssea would bring the RMTs back, be happy with lv30 limit and double exp out of abyssea already.

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

Abyssea was why BG had to invent the Gimp/Confused/WTF player thread, wasn't it?

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I believe a lot of players at level 75 heard about Abyssea and went out and bought gimp gear in protest, showing us what things would really be like if SE introduced such a terrible thing.

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Originally Posted by RaenRyong

I believe a lot of players at level 75 heard about Abyssea and went out and bought gimp gear in protest, showing us what things would really be like if SE introduced such a terrible thing.

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They sure showed us.

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Originally Posted by Kjara

I think allowing the lv1 in abyssea would bring the RMTs back, be happy with lv30 limit and double exp out of abyssea already.

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If RMT have not come back for level thirty leech, they wont be here for for level one.

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Originally Posted by Kjara

I think allowing the lv1 in abyssea would bring the RMTs back, be happy with lv30 limit and double exp out of abyssea already.

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i only said that as a joke i think abyssea is fine the way it is im glad the RMT are gone. i was addicted to buying gil. lol kidding again i was a seller lol i cant stop myself. all seriousness i like waffles

Why don't add an npc you pay 1k and get your job to lv 99 then instead of leeching/raising/lower cap? Seriously..

Except that if nobody had to do traditional parties, then those who want to couldn't. Just about every party I get is a level sync party below 30. After that people just hit Abyssea.

If you find levelling so unpleasant, don't do it. You don't need more than one job at the level cap to do endgame stuff.

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Originally Posted by Nathos

Why don't add an npc you pay 1k and get your job to lv 99 then instead of leeching/raising/lower cap? Seriously..

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See the thread below titled Remove experience points. That sounds like a great idea to me.

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Originally Posted by rog

See the thread below titled Remove experience points. That sounds like a great idea to me.

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Might as well switch to FFXIV where you can only XP like once every few days or some crap. :D

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Originally Posted by Miera

Might as well switch to FFXIV where you can only XP like once every few days or some crap. :D

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No, that is the exact opposite of what i want.

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Originally Posted by Krystal

i don't know if this is the biggest bait topic for me in history or what..but i'm gonna bite...HARD!

You honestly know how to get under a lady's skin don't ya? and while their at it...why don't they drop the level cap on dyna as well? seriously....with players like you....who needs leaches?! dropping this cap would be the worst thing to and not to mention the stupidest in history....SE would KILL the game by doing this. no one would level the old way..nor would they have any aspect or concept of the game in any form...all they would know i abyssea...god forbid they actually do anything outside of it...they wouldn't know how to do ANYTHING. and you can say till the cows come home that"they would learn on their own" BULSHIT! a player learns to play this game by playing through the levels in a party and learns the basic through the experience of being that class. no guide can teach a player everything. and those who say "it can" are full of crap. instead of being lowered it needs RAISED to 70 or 75...

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I do hope you realize that you are just bitching about the same thing that people bitched about when x2 Bard parties were all the rage right? When ToAU came out, and Bird parties started to emerge as the fastest way to get experience people were complaining that it didn't teach people about their jobs, etc etc, for an example of this, re-read 90% of your own posts to yourself.
What Square did to solve this, "problem" as many people saw it, was to come out with Campaign and the WoTG areas, and when people started calling that a problem because it was "too easy" and "people don't know how to play or gear their jobs properly." They came out with the Abyssea add-ons after that.

I'm probably leaving some random little fact out about some new camps that Square came out with inbetween, but it doesn't change the fact that, even if you keep bitching about Abyssea and the different level caps it has/could have/needs to have or whatever, they'll just come out with something new in the next 6~ months or so for you to bitch about and make Abyssea obsolete like they did with any of the Lv75 areas.
Pull the stick out of your ass, level your own way, let the leechers level how they want, leave your sever for a different one with less Abyssea or quit, whatever floats your boat, just remember, lower the cap to 1 would make it so much easier than having to Astral Burn jobs to 30, just sayin.

Okay, sounds like a fine idea.

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Originally Posted by Sanjurio

Pull the stick out of your ass, level your own way, let the leechers level how they want, leave your sever for a different one with less Abyssea or quit, whatever floats your boat, just remember, lower the cap to 1 would make it so much easier than having to Astral Burn jobs to 30, just sayin.

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I mentioned before, but if you removed the level 30 restriction, you'd be preventing those of us who prefer to level the old fashioned way from doing so. If you don't do traditional XP past 30, you wouldn't notice that the trend is level sync parties in Valkurm, Qufim, and Yuhtunga. There are some exceptions, but rarely. If you remove the requirement to get to 30 for Abyssea, you nearly eliminate the pool of potential players for regular XP, and by extension penalize those of us who DON'T want to do Abyssea parties.

I think the level 30 requirement is a decent compromise. If you don't like levelling, don't do it.