I think its time for another inventory space bag

You heard it here first ladies, and gentlemen. Gear all your jobs, and still have room with these shiny new 5/5 Pink,Perle, and Teal sets!

I support adding more inventory space. As it stands I use ~3-5 jobs exclusively, and of the 3 I use the most I have more than 80 pieces to use on each, with only a few hovering around 30. Blu and Rdm are my most extensive gear list sets mainly due to the various functions the jobs can perform. Ideally I'd love to see a gobbie bag that goes up to 100 slots (especially with VW taking up so much space with trash drops) so that I can carry all my gear and still have room for drops.

mog slips should be keyy item

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Originally Posted by Joyroth

Can I get a mog slip for my mog slips?

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Originally Posted by Lushipur

mog slips should be keyy item

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Neither of these are possible for fairly obvious reasons if you understand how mog slips work.

On MNK: TP gear, AF WS gear, no Shijin WS set, PDT gear, MDT gear, Chakra set (missing ~15 VIT), no chi blast, no eva set, no idle/regen set, staple meds/warp/pearl, 3 pieces of town gear. 72/80.

Damn right I could use another storage container or two.

Personally, I'd love to see the mob slips turned into KI's and allow me to select items based on my job rather than having to trade 4+ slips (one for each item set/tier) to obtain the pieces I need.

RDM slip allows me to see: AF/AF+1, Relic/+1/+2, Empy/+1/+2/+3 for instance, not to mention Limbus/Nyzul/Salvage set etc.

For the love of Altana, yes please! Main job alone takes a whole bag of gear and utility items, more space is due.

A couple ideas.
1) Make the magian NPCS hold all +1 & +2 items. Carrying them around is Bulls***!

2) Make Abyssea pop items convert to ki.
Example: you get a Molt Scrap. You can hold it if you think you may need to trade / sell it,
or you can use it on yourself, in which case it disappears from inventory, and becomes a KI (change all ??? so that they can only be popped with KI version).

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Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji

18/20 jobs, gear for all including the 2 not leveled. No mule. Multiple weapons for several, swap gear sets, food, instruments, 6 different rng ammo, all 8 elemental sacks, random ass gear just to wear for wearing's sake, warp items, meds, 15 different +2s to be used and a bunch of other crap up to and including all of the mandy leaves, the test I beat Maat with and my carbuncle's ruby. I still have nearly 50 spaces left. You need to prioritize.

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I have 20/20 geared too and i have 385 spaces left (full perle, aurore, teal)...
/Sigh, i'll never understand why there has to be always someone being negative about something that benefit ALL of us.

There's been a lot of the increase inventory posts, looking back at the history of when this "Official Forum" came up.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...entory-space!?
The cap for item max has often been 80 as mog storage has always been 80 no matter how many "extra" furniture pieces you layout after the 80 cap.
As for Tsukinokaji, you might as well play naked for what most of us would wonder, or rely on AF weapons (since they're store-able) with a few notable exceptions of certain max range job useable items (Twilight dagger comes to mind) or all job weapons (elemental staves).
However, like I said on my post, if you don't have that problem, then have it as a backup should the need arise.
Just because you claim to be ultra elite with having 50 inventory spaces and being naked doesn't mean that everyone else should emulate you. If that were to happen, then people wouldn't have a problem of someone coming as a 99 paladin with level 1 RSE expected to act as a debuffer in a voidwatch alliance.

People craft, farm, receive their interesting items from craftwatch, or have augmented items that cannot be stored. Whether you're (so called) geared up for the situation would probably be a laugh compared to someone that's actually geared for the situation.
Well whatever... you don't need it, don't worry about it, but for the rest of us that have been plagued by character bound items, more inventory bags would help the rest of us. It's not like you were forced to go buy that Mog Sack.

I bet if you post a list of everything you have, pepole can go through and get rid of 60% of it or more. There's what? 400 spaces available, plus how many mules do you have? You listed crafting and farming. It you need space for gear to go do something, 100% of what you crafted and farmed should be gone before you do so.

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Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji

I bet if you post a list of everything you have, pepole can go through and get rid of 60% of it or more. There's what? 400 spaces available, plus how many mules do you have? You listed crafting and farming. It you need space for gear to go do something, 100% of what you crafted and farmed should be gone before you do so.

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Yes. Swapping gear between multiple accounts is super convenient, and a much better option than just having the stuff available on your main.

<you> Ok guys, just wait here while I log out and get gear from my mule, and then log back in, and then run to the porter moogle, and then run to my mog house
<you> Hai guyz I'm back ..... oops, I forgot something... logging out again, BRB.

<me> don't bother. we already finished the event.

I want a new inventory system linked to my handle: The new "Adventuring Squire system" or "Chocobo carriage". I think more items to fit into your inventory would be a decrement along with this so I propose it could be linked with fellow NPC or Nomad Moogles or the Chocobo Rental NPC out near the Cregs.

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Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji

I bet if you post a list of everything you have, pepole can go through and get rid of 60% of it or more. There's what? 400 spaces available, plus how many mules do you have? You listed crafting and farming. It you need space for gear to go do something, 100% of what you crafted and farmed should be gone before you do so.

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Okay, lets see, 2 stacks of echo drops, vile and +1, foods, all ToM elemental staves for smn, h2h weapons, daggers, katanas, Swords, polearms, clubs, shields, augmented items from sky, evasion/haste/tp/ws armor, greatsword/scythe, enfeeble/nuke/heal armor, warp/teleport items, animator and oils, elemental gorgets and belts, nin tools, fishing gear, varying rings and earrings, and totaled together, thats about 385.
Maybe if you actually do something other than troll, you might see what most people are seeing for their inventory.

When I have to gear my SCH for anything I'm left with 6 spaces in active inventory, that's not including PDT/MDT since I don't use it for everything I do on SCH (NNI for ex) If I need to use PDT/MDT then I have to swap a set out. If you could gear from satchel that would make my life so much easier. Still don't know why gear you're actually wearing still counts as inventory but I guess that`s an issue for another thread.

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Originally Posted by Calatilla

When I have to gear my SCH for anything I'm left with 6 spaces in active inventory, that's not including PDT/MDT since I don't use it for everything I do on SCH (NNI for ex) If I need to use PDT/MDT then I have to swap a set out. If you could gear from satchel that would make my life so much easier. Still don't know why gear you're actually wearing still counts as inventory but I guess that`s an issue for another thread.

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I am left with a similar situation on RDM, where my current active inventory is 75/80, and if I get the gear I want that my RDM is still missing, it will be more like 110 or so without counting gear from weapons I am not using, I wish we could get double inventory space, that would fix all my problems with inventory in 1 shot.

I don't think more bags are the solution. This is a bit extreme for some but the proper solution would be to not allow gear swaps during a battlefield or a battle. Then you need one solid set per job when you play. You could also have wardrobes where you put gear for each job and when you switch it will automatically put you in the preset wardrobe gear. It would be cool if the wardrobe also had a connection with moogle slips and would handle all the switching for you. I would gladly have this system if it was slow even. Make an animation where the player goes behind a wall and changes while the system get the gear. =D

All we need is a bulk delivery system that works from your Mog House. If I could send 30+ items at once, I'd be fine with just having a mule.

I, personally, don't make myself suffer over the gear swapping stuff so I can have enough space to carry gear for the 3 jobs I play the most (PUP, WHM, and BLM), but gear swappers are likely in hella pain these days.

We've had inventory updates over the years, but still the same 7 AH slots, with 3 more below it, teasing you, seducing you like a beautiful woman of questionable morals, but you're married to those 7 slots and can't do anything about it.

That's my complaint for the day, see you tomorrow to complain about no maintainence and trouble buying xpac!

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Originally Posted by Stan64

I don't think more bags are the solution. This is a bit extreme for some but the proper solution would be to not allow gear swaps during a battlefield or a battle.

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If they make it so that you only need one set for each job, most of the events in the game will become pointless. They keep you running around killing thousands of monsters and doing all sorts of events by adding situationally useful items. If they make an end all be all set then they will have to make the gear incredibly hard to obtain. We all know SE by now. They would just give the gear the worst drop rates imaginable and then make doing the events a huge chore. In short, that would suck.

I can make due with the spaces I have for my gear. My only true requests is for something to hold loot. When your gear is taking up the vast majority of your inventory spaces much loot falls to floor unless you micro manage your treasure pool and even still much loot is lost. Also a much needed update to the mail system.

I agree with storage slips being KIs.
I like the idea of using PIs on yourself to turn them into KIs.
It could help if several more items stacked, like ore. Also stack to 99 instead of 12.
More AH slots for sure.
Better mail system is a must. IMO 10+ years and the mail system is the same... Well that's a bad Moogle. Why can't I send mail from my mog house? Why can't I return, collect or discard a whole page of mail with one button?
A way to summon your Moogle to the field even if only once per day would be awesome.
A way to summon a vendor to the field even if only once per day would be awesome.
NPCs to hold geodes, seals and +2 upgrade items like the npc who holds your beastmen seals would be appreciated.
I think it is a little late in the game for this but a set of melee, tank and caster gear that has progressive stat increases as you level would be nice when you are leveling jobs, reducing your need to one set of leveling gear per role type. Can even make the set only take up one inventory slot but having to wear the entire set or none of it at all.

I do feel some people carry to many swap items. Some of it is over the top. I roll my eyes when I see a toon disappearing every other second. I understand some swap items are just smart. It is just smart to swap in reward gear on bst. I don't blame smns swapping in their magian staffs. Many items truly are worth swapping but a little bit of skill can go as far if not farther than many gear swaps. Skill > Gear! Every one keeps mentioning pdt/mdt gear, that is what tanks are for. Jobs like rdm should not have to carry around pdt/mdt gear. I feel for those jobs and players having to manage all that extra gear, you shouldn't have to. /comfort

In the end it comes down to this: Another satchel/sack will fill up in a matter of a couple days and you will be right back to the same problem all over again. Seen this happen with mogsatchel, seen this happen with mogsack and I just don't feel that third time will be the charm with this issue. How ever I would welcome all the extra space they would be willing to offer, don't get me wrong. I'd love to have more sacks/satchels but I'd still be 7#/80 slots and have looting issues in my main bag so again I request a loot specific bag.

Another bag is always welcome, but what I'd really like is to be able to access all inventories for all the characters on the same account from my mog house. No more time wasted muling, no more fighting the dbox sending limit. That said I would actually prefer a change to the dbox that allows me to send out 50+ slots of items, but I figure that's not in the cards if they continue to use hardware that can't hold up in a situation like increasing the AH slots available to people.

I think its time for more than just 7 items placed on AH!

Lets go further, how about we have the ability to convert our gear in our bags into key items and back again at any time. So if you are on monk and have to switch to black mage, you just instantly convert all your equiptment your monk was wearing into key items, and then switch all your "blackmage gear key items" into equiptable items to wear, while your monk gear is all key items. With an unlimited number of gear as key items, and a limited amount of bag slots.

PS: Just in case you use this idea >>> please make each Key Item piece of gear should have its level next to its name on the key item list and sorted out like bag gear normaly is, starting with weapons, head, body, gloves, legs, feet, ect.


Also a fix for WS gear, people are constantly switching gears to get the benefits of another set of gear.

So lets have a secondary set of gear you can convert to key items and then add them as a weapon skill bonus, ect. in the form of an atma buff that only affects the purpose the gear is meant for.

We could also do the key items for the auction house, when you buy items from auction house you get them in key item form, when you post them to auction they go up as key item form. The only thing that is not in key form is the pictures of the items you want to buy.

To be clear, I am perfectly fine with paying for the extra storage instead of paying for mules. If they wanna charge me $2 a month for 160 extra slots instead of making me pay for extra characters that I don't actually play, that's all good with me.

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Originally Posted by FrankReynolds

If they make it so that you only need one set for each job, most of the events in the game will become pointless. They keep you running around killing thousands of monsters and doing all sorts of events by adding situationally useful items. If they make an end all be all set then they will have to make the gear incredibly hard to obtain. We all know SE by now. They would just give the gear the worst drop rates imaginable and then make doing the events a huge chore. In short, that would suck.

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They wouldn't have to adjust the content or the gear really. I'm fairly sure most content, even Legion is doable without gear swaps. I mean, if you can kill 16 foes in a chamber when you need 7 it's not because of gear swaps. =P

But yeah, bringing out such a big game changer it would need adjustment, maybe some redesigned gear and such. But that's what they do every day. Nerf Twilight Scythe, changing enmity system, making def important. And such.

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Originally Posted by Bahamut

Lets go further, how about we have the ability to convert our gear in our bags into key items and back again at any time.

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This won't work, just like "job based slips" that someone else proposed.
Such solutions do not work for a simple reason: "Job" isn't a successful discrimination criteria.
Several items, if not the majority of them, are shared among jobs.
Where would you put those items? In the end it would just be even more messy.

The only logic criteria to be used is the one they're using now, imho.


Some things we can complain about are the fact that you need to zone out of your MH to convert items and that they used way too many slips. I don't know if there's a limit in the amount of items they can allow to be stored into each slip (I doubt it... or rather there has to be a limit but it's certainly much higher than the current one) but 14 slips are just too many.
For instance AF1 and AF+1 should all have been on the same slip, and I could say the same about AF2, AF2+1, AF2+2 (aug), AF2+2 (unaug), AF2-1.

It's too late now, I'm afraid they won't change back, but I really wish they could have made the whole service better than it is now. It's still useful, but there's a lot of wasted potential.



They mentioned there will be a new satchel-like inventory unlocked in Adoulin but that you need to level up Coalitions. Wonder how it will work exactely.
That + Storage accessible everywhere in next patch + Porter moogle inside MH ==> I'll probably be satisfied by my inventory space.

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Originally Posted by Stan64

They wouldn't have to adjust the content or the gear really. I'm fairly sure most content, even Legion is doable without gear swaps. I mean, if you can kill 16 foes in a chamber when you need 7 it's not because of gear swaps. =P

But yeah, bringing out such a big game changer it would need adjustment, maybe some redesigned gear and such. But that's what they do every day. Nerf Twilight Scythe, changing enmity system, making def important. And such.

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I'm just saying that if you take jobs from needing 80 pieces of gear to complete all their situational gear sets to where they only need 16 pieces of gear, then you have to make those 16 pieces of gear 5 times as harder to get in order to keep people playing for the same amount of time.

The problem is that making gear that hard to obtain will make most people curse at their screen and quit. Could you imagine if instead of doing <Insert annoying VWNM> 600 times to get that stupid shiny WS body piece that you only use for STR based weapon skills, you had to do an even more annoying monster 3,000 times?

I'm not saying it can't be done. I'm just saying that it would be much harder to balance and balance doesn't seem to be working as it is.

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

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Originally Posted by Dreamin

More inventory slots per existing bag/locker would be a nice alternative as well. We've been sitting @ 80 per for a while now. (They've already said somewhere that's not due to PS2 limitations in some post before).

But yeah, a new bag would be good to have too.

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Citation for bolded please. I'm calling bullshit until I see a source.

I distinctly remember their official explanation for the 80 item per storage limit being a function of PS2 RAM limitations, which is why they just add more storage options rather than expanding existing ones or allowing us to use multiple storage spaces at a time.

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actually it isn't a limitation of the PS2, its the fact that they limited the POL framework to work within the PS2 limits that is the issue with this and at the time they did not push the limits of the PS2 so therefore the limit is with POL viewer, something they might have a way around if they had made their programmers make better notes at the start

in order to get past the 80 limit they would need to create a new framework and port it to that, somehow I don't see them doing that

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Originally Posted by wildsprite

actually it isn't a limitation of the PS2, its the fact that they limited the POL framework to work within the PS2 limits that is the issue with this and at the time they did not push the limits of the PS2 so therefore the limit is with POL viewer, something they might have a way around if they had made their programmers make better notes at the start

in order to get past the 80 limit they would need to create a new framework and port it to that, somehow I don't see them doing that

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So, it's not a PS2 limitation. It's a PS2 limitation.

it is a limitation of the framework of POL that isn't going away if you get rid of the PS2 unless they port it to a new framework due to the fact that they programmed it directly for the PS2 and ported it to the other systems,

so yes it both is and isn't a PS2 limitation, which does sound a bit off but its the truth.

it would have been a bit like creating java on an old system like the Atari VCS(2600) then deciding to port it to windows later, in order to make it grow they would have had to have tossed a lot of the code out which would break everything that ran on it, thus forcing everyone who programmed to update their code.

if they had just made the framework for Windows and ported it to the PS2 then as soon as the PS2 support was dropped all of the issues due to those limitations would pretty much go away

I think what part of the problem is the fact that all of out inventories are loaded when we zone. So squareenix doesn't want to make more inventory space due to the time it would take us to zone.
now, Storage is irrelevent, It is not accessible on the field and only accessible in your mog house, and yet it is still loaded when you zone. I think they should try to somehow change the coding so that storage is not loaded when you zone, and it is only loaded when you check it with the mog house function in our menu.

and possibly increase our storage amounts to 200 or so, or make another 80 space "mog storage" type of inventory only accessible when in your home nation or adoulin. Again we could always do inventory and mog safe quests on all of our mules for inventory, i think there isn't any harm with letting us have more storage space for crafting materials, or random things we don't think we will be using often or right away.