Lvl 99 Spell Suggestions

i think ultima would work nicely for blm it seems to be more potent than meteor and far more destructive. meteor would be cool to but that looks more like a true non elemental spell based on the 8 elements of this game btw carby can use a meteor based attack. that tells me its light based. Demi would be nice holy 2 would be sexy if it did dmg.

I still have to question, why are you suggesting other job's spells in the BLM forum?

Seconded. Just list potential spells ideas for BLM. Nevermind that you want to give magic well beyond the capabilities of a jack of all trades, please post ideas for other jobs in the appropriate forum areas.

While I wish some class had access to Repatriation, it is indeed white magic, thus outside the realm of Blms (unless subbed for it).

Please Square Enix, no nonelemental magic, especially for Blm! Assign it an element or multiple ones if deemed necessary. Again, Flare was typically (and nonsensically) nonelemental before this game.

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Originally Posted by Momotarotaru

Talk about the spell.
I would like to see combo of spells... like Weapon skill chain but spell.

or make new spell when 2 or more mages cast same or different spell in the same time to same target.
Example
we can make ICE STORM when 1 mage cast Blizzard and 1 mage cast Aero
OR Electric Wave Thunder spell + Water spell.
OR Slow + Stone = Super Slow
OR Slow + Stonega = Slowga.
OR Sleep + Bio = Nightmare
OR Holy + aspir (drain sleep) = aspir (drain sleep) but light element.

OR make Super Light damage with Holy (Banish) + Thunder + Fire + Wind
same go with Super Dark damage with Blizzard + Stone + Water
Maybe I dream too much XD

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So like with how Skillchains increase damage for magic, trying certain spell combinations induce higher tier Elemental Spells? Could they also trigger greater potentcy in WS followups too, essentially closing the loop? This could be interesting, but we'll definitely need to flesh this idea out. Possibly a different thread for it. Was also thinking that the spell "Mini" and "Imp" could also be in the BLM repitoire. "Demi" too, just to name a few. I just hope they don't nerf Meteor badly...or better that they give it the Cumulative Damage Boost effect. I'd DEFINITELY use it. >.<)b

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Originally Posted by Angelsasuke

BLM: Death(prolly cost like 600mp and 1 in 5 chance of working but worth it)/ Meteor/ Comet/ Bio III (was always used by BLM mobs but never given to BLM)

BLU: Maybe one of the added effect KO moves, or something like tribulation

SMN: Ixion/Bahamut and xtra skill up on smn skill(for those of us who dont use a bot to keep it capped)

WHM/PLD: Holy II and Dia III(was always used by whm mobs but never given to whm)

DRK: Death or Absorb Buff Spell

NIN: Jubaku: NI, and Maybe San: Debuffs

SCH: Id have to agree with tier II helix

RDM: Ultima, Amnesia, Stop, Gravity II

BRD: song to decrease enemy movement speed

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Need to get rid of merit spells but why dia III for pld?

i would go far and say dia III should be used by rdm and whm and rdm could get dia IV though 99 merit.

75 merit spells are pointless now

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Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji

I still have to question, why are you suggesting other job's spells in the BLM forum?

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Dew was suggesting Spells for all Jobs, Kaji. There isn't a All Mage category...so why not post that list here? Her/his list is more respectively organized if it was altogether. I like the organization of it.

But, I am indeed, confused by her/his color scheme. o.o

I am SERIOUSLY liking Dew's Spell List. That's what we need towards 99, but I doubt we'll get them all. I also like the added effects that they have too. If we can combine that with the "Magic-Chains" Momotarutaru thought up, we can see some impressive results. The DOWNSIDE is the testing and QA phase, as there are a LOT of combinations to try out. Some I don't see possible in XI though (Toad, Choco, Mog) due to them not being effective enough to use. As others won't make it due to those characters/names are already in use (Gilgamesh one of them, but would be nice to see Excalipoor for laughs). If Square Enix is reading this, skip over/up to Dew's List of Spells and see what you can come up with. I see all of them possible but only the Devs can make the final call.

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I think that they should give blm's some spells equivalent too alexander and odin, basically give me some spells that i can only use when manafont is active.

whm should totally get ultima :)

LVL 92. Thunder V
LVL 93. Blizzaja
LVL 94. Stone VI
LVL 95. Water VI
LVL 96. Aero VI and Thundaja
LVL 97. Fire VI
LVL 98. Blizzard VI
LVL 99. Thunder VI and Meteor

Also, have the Tier 6 spells BLM exclusive. Meaning no SCH learning that. We don't need Death, we can kill unimportant stuff in the first nuke of a T6. Most of the time in a T5. And anything worth casting Death on will be 100% resistant to that spell anyway.

But go ahead and give SCHs their T2 helixes and weather effects. They need to be special from everyone else anyway.

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Originally Posted by Korpg

LVL 92. Thunder V
LVL 93. Blizzaja
LVL 94. Stone VI
LVL 95. Water VI
LVL 96. Aero VI and Thundaja
LVL 97. Fire VI
LVL 98. Blizzard VI
LVL 99. Thunder VI and Meteor

Also, have the Tier 6 spells BLM exclusive. Meaning no SCH learning that. We don't need Death, we can kill unimportant stuff in the first nuke of a T6. Most of the time in a T5. And anything worth casting Death on will be 100% resistant to that spell anyway.

But go ahead and give SCHs their T2 helixes and weather effects. They need to be special from everyone else anyway.

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Only issue with that is tier II weather would give them a straight 25% increase, 30% with the Twilight Cape. 40% with the cape and on the same day, there would be no need to give them tier 6 as they'd probably beat BLM with a tier 5, probably why they wont give SCH tier 2.

If you think about it.

40% weather, day and Twilight Cape
30% EA+2 hat and Ebullience
30% with the ToM staff

That's a straight 100% increase.

All new BLM spells should be power based on curren HP/MP % so the lower you are the stronger the spells will be :-)

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Originally Posted by Venat

SCH-Thunder4-aga

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someone doesn't know/play SCH

Ultima, Meteor, commet, demi, quartr, doom, death, xzone.. More spells that dont work.. stop, confusion... time mage related spellls...

As the OP stated blms shold just have a JA element sync that increases damage.

I wanna see Ultima for Black Mages. Been waiting years for that. Would be cool if they add it as a merit spell.

I want Toadga, so I can relive my FFT days wherein I cleared nearly every battle by turning everything into frogs, stealing everything from the frogs, and then killing all the frogs while they hit me for 1 damage.

rofl @ all the people wanting Ultima for RDM or SCH... just rofl.

Never gonna happen. If anyone's getting it (and I don't think we'll ever see it tbh) it's BLM.

Is it RDM's primary purpose to nuke things? SCH's?

No.

Ultima would be a mob/boss spell if anything. It's non elemental and last i checked there's no Non Elemental Magic skill for BLMs.

Well, we got the list for what's coming on the way up to 95. Comet is a single target spell. Looks like a total setup for AoE Meteor around the corner. Though, besides Thunderja, I'm not too sure what else to expect. /ponders

/goes off to the corner and hopes for Comet for Pup

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Originally Posted by Malacite

rofl @ all the people wanting Ultima for RDM or SCH... just rofl.

Never gonna happen. If anyone's getting it (and I don't think we'll ever see it tbh) it's BLM.

Is it RDM's primary purpose to nuke things? SCH's?

No.

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No job will get it, though if it were non-elemental it would go to SCH, no doubt about it.

BLM's are masters of elemental magic, not non-elemental magic.

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Originally Posted by Daniel_Hatcher

No job will get it, though if it were non-elemental it would go to SCH, no doubt about it.

BLM's are masters of elemental magic, not non-elemental magic.

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Well it doesn't matter anyway... like daniel here said no one will get it because it won't be added to the game: there is no spell in this game that isn't an element.

Doesn't mean there can't be a first :p

Ultima would probably be dark magic (yes, I realize it is typically non-elemental). Now, as sad as I am to say this, it will probably never be in the game. That said, IF any job were to get it, it'd have to be BLM.

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Originally Posted by Veigar

Ultima would probably be dark magic (yes, I realize it is typically non-elemental). Now, as sad as I am to say this, it will probably never be in the game. That said, IF any job were to get it, it'd have to be BLM.

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If it had an element Yes, if not then it would go to SCH. Ignoring previous FF games, Non-elemental would go to SCH before the masters of elemental BLM.

Bio was non-elemental in at least 1 previous FF game (must have been 9 or 12 I suppose. Only ones I finished)

I just wanted to add in here my support that I would like BLM to get Meteor by level 99.
Edit: oh and Thundaja. Definately Thundaja.

Now I can feel like SE listened to me when it's implemented, and they can pretend that they listened to us.

As long as they make the new scrolls obtainable by normal people, that'd be a major plus. Countless HoE runs and I've yet to see a single scroll. Small wonder they're each selling for many millions each. You'd think at least Thunder V would be more obtainable.

As for spells, I think one of them is an obvious inclusion. Thundaja. As for spells I'd like to see, probably Meteor and Ultima. Yeah, yeah... we'll probably never see an Ultima spell in the game but having been in many prior FF games, it would be a shame for it to never see the light of day in Vana'diel. Besides, a truly non-elemental magic attack would have a vast number of applications.

Also, does anyone else find it odd that we leap straight from Stonega III to Stoneja? Whatever happened to Stonega IV as used by countless enemies across Vana'diel? Same applies to Waterga IV etc. We seem to have skipped over a few and jumped right in at the end.

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Originally Posted by Tanathos

Well for me a game must be fun, and i dont see the fun to kill 250 same mob.. its like a Wow bashing... of course you need more than 1 trial staff.. if ut was online one yes np but for all element...

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I'm almost finished with my 9th and final line of staff trials. I have Agni's Staff +3 (Fire), Varuna's Staff +3 (Ice), Vayu's Staff +3 (Wind), Kubera's Staff +3 (Earth), Indra's Staff +3 (Thunder), Soma's Staff +3 (Water), Surya's Staff +3 (Cure Potency for WHM) and Shareeravadi +3 (Magic Accuracy). Right now I've got to kill 250 Leeches for Yama's Staff (Darkness), then scrounge up 55 shadow geodes, and I'm all done.

I actually agree that it can be kinda boring and it has taken me several months to get them all done (though one line took maybe 10 days total). Agni's Staff and Kubera's Staff were particularly difficult because there are no evil weapons anywhere in Abyssea (for Agni's Staff) and the magic pots in Abyssea (for Kubera's Staff) were far too strong and resistant to nukes for me to solo. Still, I really liked it. I think because it is something you can solo, and you can start and stop at will, and I've always been the kind of guy who liked a simple but repetitive task you can really sink your time in to.

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Originally Posted by Seiowan

As long as they make the new scrolls obtainable by normal people, that'd be a major plus. Countless HoE runs and I've yet to see a single scroll. Small wonder they're each selling for many millions each. You'd think at least Thunder V would be more obtainable.

As for spells, I think one of them is an obvious inclusion. Thundaja. As for spells I'd like to see, probably Meteor and Ultima. Yeah, yeah... we'll probably never see an Ultima spell in the game but having been in many prior FF games, it would be a shame for it to never see the light of day in Vana'diel. Besides, a truly non-elemental magic attack would have a vast number of applications.

Also, does anyone else find it odd that we leap straight from Stonega III to Stoneja? Whatever happened to Stonega IV as used by countless enemies across Vana'diel? Same applies to Waterga IV etc. We seem to have skipped over a few and jumped right in at the end.

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They blocked them because they're too powerful when NM's use them and cast to quick.