The test server is more fun than the real game.

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I think reraise should be accessionable. Would solve all our problems.

... I got my utsu scroll from doing the damned BCNMs with one friend and one random pickup dude. You can do that too. Don't have friends and can't afford it? No worries, no one will care if you have it or not in GoV book burns. You probably won't even need it in them.

This entire thread can be summed up in three words: Learn to play.

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Now that is one hard-core kitty! I remember those days...like it was yesterday and (poof) now they're gone. SE need to create a seperate server for the nostalgic parties. BCNMs were the way of the Gil-Finder back then... somewhat the same for some but we need new equipment and gear for drops. BCNMs are so rehearsed now, it's easy money people don't need to pay for the stuff, they'll just go get it for themselves.

My first job to 75 was Paladin and I beat Maat with it too. Hard-core leveling will never be the same...

I've actually been thinking about doing some royal jellies only for the cash. Sure, you can make cash from cruor, but sometimes it's nice to keep it for brews. Doing a couple of RJs could net you an easy 1-2 millions if you're just a bit lucky. I could also use refresh and phalanx from that fight. Even if those are more affordable, it still saves me cruor equal to one brew :p.

I decided to transfer my mule's cruor to gil and not brews when I realised he sucks at brewing.

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Everyone on the test server proves that people do not instantly quit the day they have everything.

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You are wrong.

When Undine opened a /sea all showed around 400 people. Today it showed 37.

To be fair there is several content blocked due to lack of participation, and being a copy server there's no benefit to your main from being on there other than to test whatever suits your fancy.

It also gets boring rather quickly.

It is a "test" server it serves it's reason for it's exsistence it was not meant to be a main home. SE made it to cut down on future server maint and to get feed back on things before they come out. i don't see the problem with it.

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It also gets boring rather quickly.

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What's borring is trying to skill up for days and not getting any. What's borring is trying to put together a group of under geared people to try and get something decent. What's borring is having to grind for money. People have been ignoring the fact that I asked for a happy medium. There has to be some kind of compromise to get past the grinding crap and get on with the real game.

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What's borring is trying to skill up for days and not getting any. What's borring is trying to put together a group of under geared people to try and get something decent. What's borring is having to grind for money. People have been ignoring the fact that I asked for a happy medium. There has to be some kind of compromise to get past the grinding crap and get on with the real game.

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B.F. Skinner disagrees with you.

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What's borring is trying to skill up for days and not getting any. What's borring is trying to put together a group of under geared people to try and get something decent. What's borring is having to grind for money. People have been ignoring the fact that I asked for a happy medium. There has to be some kind of compromise to get past the grinding crap and get on with the real game.

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Nearly everything you are talking about was 10 times harder before the slew of updates made them more accessible. If anything, SE should implement a test server circa 2004 to show people how much easier it is now to get things done and make money. Your river of tears would run dry.

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Nearly everything you are talking about was 10 times harder before the slew of updates made them more accessible. If anything, SE should implement a test server circa 2004 to show people how much easier it is now to get things done and make money. Your river of tears would run dry.

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Basically he is asking "why don't they just start us all off at max level with all jobs"

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Actually i have caped skills and i still hate pvp, it's a shitty system, period, skills have little to do with it's horrible. unbalanced content. it's just something to do when you are extreamly bored.



Meh, while this is true the current price tag on it absurd, it's not worth any more then 200k MAX, and that's only because of how to get it. of course old school WHMs would already have this scroll. but if people will pay 5+ mil for +1 stat more then a 100k item then people will waste gill on anything. i mean, some retard even paied 10 mil for a vivid strap +1 which is just a 1% fast cast..

in short, it dosn't make you "good" at whm it just means you have an extra raise avalible, no one cares about exp loss anymore. however quicker raises can also be fixed by celerity with raise.

But yea in response to this topic of course test server is more fun, everything is handed to you with no work. which is what lazy people adore.

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Its refreshing to see someone who knows how terrible they are and openly admit it, the OP tries to hide it, terribly.

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What's borring is trying to skill up for days and not getting any. What's borring is trying to put together a group of under geared people to try and get something decent. What's borring is having to grind for money. People have been ignoring the fact that I asked for a happy medium. There has to be some kind of compromise to get past the grinding crap and get on with the real game.

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However did you manage NOT to quit the game well before abyssea was released? Seeing as everything you mention here as boring (1 r, not 2), is waaaaayyyyy easier now that it's ever been?

You know what I used to do to make gil? I mined. I farmed boyahda moss and tree cuttings in Zi'Tah - for hours and hours and hours, competing against rmts. I used those tree cuttings and had several gardening mules, growing elemental ores (or trying to, at least). I kept every single drop from everything I did - crystals, wild onions, rabbit hides, colibri feathers, you name it - and sent to jeuno mule to sell at the AH, or npc'ed it.

If you are trying to skill up for days and not succeeding, you are doing it wrong. Plain and simple.

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What's borring is trying to put together a group of under geared people to try and get something decent.

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Don't you have any friends at all that you can do stuff with? Be it seal nms or +2 item nms?

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There has to be some kind of compromise to get past the grinding crap and get on with the real game.

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There is much much much less grinding crap in FFXI now. I don't understand how you do not recognize this.


Meh, why am I responding to someone who put me on their ignore list? It just irks me that someone who's been playing for 7 years is complaining about the game being too hard. No, it actually AMAZES me that someone who's been playing for that long, is complaining about the game being too hard.

oi where u get that 2004 remark from im sure ive ssen it somewhere before lol i agree with most of what u have said though

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oi where u get that 2004 remark from im sure ive ssen it somewhere before lol i agree with most of what u have said though

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Here, very first post in this thread:

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I didn't even plan on signing up for the test server. ----

Leveling is a lot better than it used to be, once you get a job in the 70ish range. ----

Utsumei Ni is still over 1mil. ----

The items are what hurt me the most. ----

IDK anyone with max parrying or max guard skill, let alone both. ----

I know you can't make the real game as easy as the test server but there has to be some kind of happy medium. ----

But ultimatly access to all these things are up to you. IDC how you do it, but if these are all the things one needs to play the game as you intend, then you need to make them easier to get. Even though I've been playing seince 2004 and have multinple 90s, (sarcasim)I'm just an english speaking n00b(/sarcasim) and my ideas are not welcome.

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I personally failed to see the point with leveling up when I really didn't want to after the very first FC party I paid for. Not only can I do it AFK and do other things but I also get cruor which I could exchange into gil so I can FC more. I think leveling up at lower levels is very boring and mildly frustrating to solo with a job that's not very solo friendly. Hell if I got an offer to a traditional party I'd turn it down for FC anytime as I already did those traditional parties on two different characters all the way up to level 75/90 several times. So for me FC is a blessing that opens new ways of playing this game without all the work involved. Work can be fun, that's probably why I did it so many times but as time goes on I really don't feel like visiting Qufim Island for the 9000th time to level up a low level job under a level sync.

Leveling up has become very simple as you don't have to find a perfect combination to level up anymore, no need for skillchain, no need for a tank, no need for a refresher, all the monsters you're fighting check "easy prey" for the most part and if they don't, it'll prolly do so for the rest of the people in your alliance. When I level up with someone that does 2-3x more damage than I do, I pretty much lose interest in working hard since they're already doing most of the job. No real need for a healer when you fight EP mobs that chips off 10 damage off you on every hit either. So the part that made leveling up interesting for me isn't there anymore so I prefer just to blast through the levels, which brings me to skilling up.

Skilling up is probably one of the biggest waste of time you can do on this game. It's pretty imbalanced too when you compare skill up to different weapons. Dagger and scythe both have the same probability to skill up, but dagger is a lot faster than a scythe so you end up spending more time skilling up on latter one. Skilling up becomes faster if you get access to double attack, haste and those occasionally attacks x times weapons, yet all of that just is a pushover when you compare it to warrior's job ability retaliation. Go inside Abyssea, get regen atmas, put on pdt gear and hold a ton of mandragoras in front of you with retaliation on. Never have I skilled up a weapon faster! Retaliation is like Counter, except that you still take hits but hits from retaliation counts as skill up. I've recorded that I once hit 5 times per second as a result. It took me 8 hours to go from 200 to 300 on club. You can self skill chain too even if you're alone and that you have enough mobs and pdt to keep yourself alive making those weapon skill trials much faster. Unlocking polearm of trials took less than half an hour thanks to this. It's just a shame that no other jobs in the game can skill up as fast as warrior. I'd like to see my drk skill up just as fast. :(

The worst part of skilling up is probably the magic you throw on yourself or others such as enhancing magic or healing magic. I think neither of those skills levels up at all after a certain point, I could heal for hours on WHM and see one 0.1 skill up while my warrior is getting 10+ levels in weapons. Even parrying levels up faster than healing magic which I find incredibly infuriating. The only way I can skill up healing and enhancing on is to cheat like it was FF2. Nuking undead mobs with healing magic makes healing magic actually level and spamming protect on generals in besieged makes enhancing magic skill up. I fail to see why especially these skills have to be so time consuming to level up, isn't it enough that spells resist with capped magic? The best way I could think about leveling up those skills would be to go AFK with a bot running in the background so you don't have to do it manually. I'm very sure all of this is somewhat true to summoning magic or at least I know someone who leveled it up while botting.

Those two things are my main gripe with the game at the moment, jobs I don't feel like leveling up and skills I especially don't feel like doing. They made leveling up a million times faster but skilling up still takes forever. Why does skilling up have to be such a huge and monotonous grind? If I was in control, all the skills should be in blue.

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What's borring is trying to skill up for days and not getting any.

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Suck less. Skilling up is easy. Or did I imagine skilling up Gaxe from 120 to 300ish as a WAR90 in two evenings?

The more you post, the more you sound like an absolutely terrible player.

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What's borring is trying to skill up for days and not getting any. What's borring is trying to put together a group of under geared people to try and get something decent. What's borring is having to grind for money. People have been ignoring the fact that I asked for a happy medium. There has to be some kind of compromise to get past the grinding crap and get on with the real game.

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Perhaps you should try other games, like super mario or something on the wii, clearly this game is to difficult for you. it's ok it dosn't work for everyone.

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Playing an MMO or RPG is about lots of work to accomplsh things, that's the whole point. For players that have yet to accomplish much in the real game it's like being let run loose in a candy store, for normal players it's nothing special.

I wouldn't worry too much about the test server, they will probably close it after the update goes live.

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It's not about not wanting to do work its more about opportunity.

Edit: So the question would be does the test server really paint a picture of how it is for the average person without all the best of everything? Maybe they should test things two ways with the best of everything and as the average player.

I didn't read the entire original post, but the gist I got was "Final Fantasy 11 is too boring for me to play, I wish it came pre-played like the test version." I'm guessing that if the OP could, he'd take all his food intravenously so that he could get all the necessary nutrients to sustain life without all that pesky preparing, chewing, and swallowing of food.

Also, levelling is ridiculously easy. I took 12 jobs to level 30 (for the job emote). Each one took me a grand total of maybe 10 hours. After that, you could look for leeching opportunities, although I don't personally condone this, it's an option.

You can get from 1 to 90 in a week. It used to take several months. There has been compromise on the level grind; they've basically gotten rid of it.

That's the problem with making things easier; you won't please everyone. They'll demand that it become even easier.

Wait what? The test server is just quests/abilities/items etc to make sure they're not bugged and don't cause a conflict with something else so that they can fix it before implamentaion to negate the need for several emergancy maints, and also to gove the community a chance to test new ideas and give feedback.

Quite why it matters what sort of equipment or means of leveling or anything else you have, I don't know. It doesn't mean a thing if you have every single relic weapon in the game, or use the cheapest thing in the H with full perle/aurore/teal. It's there for getting feedback on new additions and testing for bugs.

Kinda dumb people refer leveling to grinding now a days. Games are meant to be played over time, not beaten in a day. More so with mmorpg where the older it gets more stuff there is, so the longer you play the mmo more stuff you see. Rushing levels is an mmorpg is a bad thing, that makes content (which is fun) obsolete. Where as long as newbies join the game there is still a reason to do the content. I think most ppl here got a bit of a warped concept of playing games. Or a warped concept of reward. pretty much you can get all jobs maxed in 2 mnths w/o buying a single peice of gear and having very poor skill levels. Then another mnth to get all emperyn AF for all those jobs. ok so what the heck is the point in doing 5% of the game? Why even waste money at that point. No one plays the game as intended anymore all they do is get 90 and af3. Maybe rank 5 in a nation. As they do not see a point in doing much else.

Oyh btw This was an issue with Aion people played the test server more then the game. XD

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Kinda dumb people refer leveling to grinding now a days. Games are meant to be played over time, not beaten in a day. More so with mmorpg where the older it gets more stuff there is, so the longer you play the mmo more stuff you see. Rushing levels is an mmorpg is a bad thing, that makes content (which is fun) obsolete. Where as long as newbies join the game there is still a reason to do the content. I think most ppl here got a bit of a warped concept of playing games. Or a warped concept of reward. pretty much you can get all jobs maxed in 2 mnths w/o buying a single peice of gear and having very poor skill levels. Then another mnth to get all emperyn AF for all those jobs. ok so what the heck is the point in doing 5% of the game? Why even waste money at that point. No one plays the game as intended anymore all they do is get 90 and af3. Maybe rank 5 in a nation. As they do not see a point in doing much else.

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Kinda dumb for you to call people who don't enjoy leveling and consider it a grind "kinda dumb"

What gives you enjoyment and pleasure in FFXI is not what gives everyone else enjoyment and pleasure. You are an ignorant twit when you call someone "dumb" for not enjoying the game the way you do.

But from what I have seen from all your posts in the past, I shouldn't expect much more from you other than ignorant misconceptions.

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Kinda dumb people refer leveling to grinding now a days. Games are meant to be played over time, not beaten in a day. More so with mmorpg where the older it gets more stuff there is, so the longer you play the mmo more stuff you see. Rushing levels is an mmorpg is a bad thing, that makes content (which is fun) obsolete. Where as long as newbies join the game there is still a reason to do the content. I think most ppl here got a bit of a warped concept of playing games. Or a warped concept of reward. pretty much you can get all jobs maxed in 2 mnths w/o buying a single peice of gear and having very poor skill levels. Then another mnth to get all emperyn AF for all those jobs. ok so what the heck is the point in doing 5% of the game? Why even waste money at that point. No one plays the game as intended anymore all they do is get 90 and af3. Maybe rank 5 in a nation. As they do not see a point in doing much else.

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I don't think you read the OP's post or the replies - if you did, you didn't understand them.

People refer to exping in old-style exp parties as grinding. And it was. For some jobs it was a long, painful grind, waiting hours for an invite. These days we have a lot more options on HOW to exp a job.

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That is more or less exactly what the majority of people posting in this thread is saying, myself included. It's all about setting goals for yourself, accomplish things - whether it's finishing a mission line, level crafts, make an empyrean/relic/mythic weapon, get all jobs to max level, get that one piece of gear (or more) that you really want, and so on.

If everything was handed to us without any effort, I'm certain almost none of us would have been playing this game for more than a couple of months, tops.

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No one plays the game as intended anymore all they do is get 90 and af3.

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As intended? Wasn't the intention of this game always to level up, and for a very large portion of the player base it was also about doing high level content and getting specific equipment pieces for their job. Or, simply to have fun. And different people find different things fun.

Now, now, let's not start a flamefest against each other. She's gonna put her back up from a single insult, people are going to reply back, and the thread is going to get locked. The usual process, etc etc.

Rosina, in response to your statement - I have to heavily disagree. To me, grinding is absolutely boring. For a new player, it's fun and it's fascinating, learning the ins and outs of new jobs and areas of the game you haven't explored often. I know when I was leveling DRG in ToAU parties, my first job, I was ecstatic for every level I got. My BLU, though it had to be leveled solo, was fun because I got to visit new areas hunting spells and go to some of the BLM pet camps for fast solo EXP. It was worth it because at that time, everything was new to me and wonderful.

But now it's boring. You do something enough, it gets boring. I did the Qufim/Yuhtunga/CN/GC/ToAU grind often enough to absolutely hate it. I never want to level that way again, especially when people cannot listen in a party to work with general tactics. For example, in an old party at 30+ where you had a THF, you'd get a primary Provoker, have them Provoke the mob, while the tank and THF go behind and the tank gets SATA'd for firm hate holding. But then you'd get people who wouldn't provoke, or who wouldn't go behind the mob, or who would move the mob without warning or would go AFK. People were a pain to deal with in slower EXP at times because to them, the game was "throw bodies at it." Many of these people do not change as they level; the grind does nothing for them. All it does is bore me and slow me from reaching levels where I can do relevant, interesting content.

I leveled DRG, BLU, RDM, THF, BST, BRD, and SMN the old-fashioned way. Some of them provided me with unique solo routes because they wouldn't get parties, others were party magnets. But never again do I want to take the slow path that teaches me nothing. Most jobs can have their basics learned fairly quickly by anyone, and the more advanced stuff can only truly be learned/mastered by facing against difficult content rather than squishy EXP mobs. In short, the only advantage grinding has is CP/Standing depending on where you grind. I for one welcome the faster EXP of Abyssea so I can get to actual relevant content.

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Suck less. Skilling up is easy. Or did I imagine skilling up Gaxe from 120 to 300ish as a WAR90 in two evenings?

The more you post, the more you sound like an absolutely terrible player.

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To be fair, he was mostly complaining about healing magic skillups, while saying weapon skillups were a lot faster. Healing and enhancing really is terribly slow.

My goal is to be the very best, like no one ever was.

To beat the game is my real test, acting childish without pause.

I will travel across the land, leeching far and wide.

I won't cast haste or swap my gear, with my playstyle you will abide.

Rosina, it's you and me. I know it is my destiny.

Rosina, oh you're my best friend. It's this world of Vana d'iel we must defend.

Rosina, a heart so true, only our courage will pull us through.

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My goal is to be the very best, like no one ever was.

To beat the game is my real test, acting childish without pause.

I will travel across the land, leeching far and wide.

I won't cast haste or swap my gear, with my playstyle you will abide.

Rosina, it's you and me. I know it is my destiny.

Rosina, oh you're my best friend. It's this world of Vana d'iel we must defend.

Rosina, a heart so true, only our courage will pull us through.

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LOL! <3 this was great.

Uh oh, Rosina posted.

Ibtnuke

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Leveling is a lot better than it used to be, once you get a job in the 70ish range. But getting to that point? Impossible w/o paying someone for a FC PT or spending weeks trying to grind to that point. Even then, trying to get to 30 is a time consuming endeavor. Of all the things I plan on mentioning, this is the esiest, but it's still too time consuming and distracts from making actual progress in the game. Especially, for example, when BLMs are required to take up BRD just to proc.

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Wrong. Getting a job to 30 is ridiculously easy with Grounds Tome. GoV makes leveling really fast. As for 30-90, you obviously haven't met the large amount of people who have leeched their jobs to 90 in a few hours, maybe a few days, per job.

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Utsusemi Ni is still over 1mil. That is the most agregious example but there are still plenty of ones like Raise 3, Phalanx, and High tier / procing BLM spells. Where are we supposed to get the gil for all of this?

The items are what hurt me the most. There is no way to get any of them unless you con a LS in to getting them for you. There are jobs like PLD, SMN and RDM that require these items to even be playable. No LS or person is going to help you get anything they want for themselves. Then there are consumable items that are so expensive I can't even level NIN or RNG for a main and I haven't even touched PUP just because I can't afford the expense to even try it.

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Either you have no friends, or your LS is filled by a bunch of selfish dicks. I just can't fathom another example. Sure, a few select spells are expensive, but with abyssea and usually unused dom points, you can make a mill easily after ONE lengthy party [which, HEY, you can get from leeching or generally partying in abyssea!]
NIN is not as expensive to level any more, as far as consumables go, because shihei are cheap per stack [4k/stack in siren, eg.] and you no longer need spell-specific tools other than Shihei [Utsusemi], Sanjuku-Tenugui [monomi] and Shinobi-Tabi [tonko].
As for RNG, it's still slightly expensive, sure, but only if you're buying the most expensive arrows or something of the sort, because generally you can last on RNG with lower-level arrows [Scorpion arrows, beetle arrows? last for a while.]

As for getting people to help: As I said before; you either have no friends, or your LS is a bag of dicks... or you have no LS. Even then, you can ALWAYS find someone here and there to be helpful and try to assist you in obtaining certain things, so long as you allow yourself to do the same for them. Otherwise, you're just being selfish and your argument is "waah, why don't I have people to do whatever I want on a whim, with no reward to them?".

Oh, and farming for gil is not hard at all. Elshena/Saltena/Pitaru ingredients are easy to find and easy to farm. Look into it.

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IDK anyone with max parrying or max guard skill, let alone both. I also have trouble believeing anyone has taken a wep not native to their main job past 200. I tried for days to get past 200 with staff, club, dagger, polearm and greatsword with my PLD. The mobs are either too weak and will give no skill ups or too tough and won't give skill ups. I have sience given up.

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Again, with abyssea, a lot of people [mostly WAR] have dedicated their time to skilling up their weapons and unlocking trial WS [at least 10 people on my friendslist have done so on separate occasions, I've helped them for Light/Dark SC.] As for Parry/Guard, most people haven't gotten it, but it's also hard as hell to get anyway.

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I know you can't make the real game as easy as the test server but there has to be some kind of happy medium. Most of this could be fixed by making it easier for people who need a PT to find each other or giving multiple drops for PTs that all want the same thing. I had an idea for this that went ignored.

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..."/sea all inv X-Y", and furthermore, "/seacom"

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But ultimatly access to all these things are up to you. IDC how you do it, but if these are all the things one needs to play the game as you intend, then you need to make them easier to get. Even though I've been playing seince 2004 and have multinple 90s, (sarcasim)I'm just an english speaking n00b(/sarcasim) and my ideas are not welcome.

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These things aren't required, and I've explained why in each one. This game doesn't need to be easier, nor "harder". It's fine as is.

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No one plays the game as intended anymore all they do is get 90 and af3. Maybe rank 5 in a nation. As they do not see a point in doing much else.

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You also forgot CoP/ToAU/ZM/WotG. All of which people need to do if they want Salvage, Temenos, Sky, Sea and such.

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What's borring is trying to skill up for days and not getting any. What's borring is trying to put together a group of under geared people to try and get something decent. What's borring is having to grind for money. People have been ignoring the fact that I asked for a happy medium. There has to be some kind of compromise to get past the grinding crap and get on with the real game.

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Holy. Crap.
You are bad.
There is not a single MMO in the WORLD that is going to satisfy you.
You might want to try more single-player games.
You seem to enjoy the test server, which is basically playing alone and having things handed to you, with no gratification of earning anything.

And for both the OP and some of the replies...
MMOs are all about grinding.
And [lolrosina], grinding is doing the same thing over and over to progress.
Trying to randomly come up with an excuse to say how leveling =/= grinding is pointless.

If this game is too hard for you, quit playing.
If you don't like grinding, quit playing MMOs.

Sorry OP. I tried to read your post, but it became extremely apparent halfway through that you're a moron.

Seriously..... you know, I remember when 10-12k exp per hour was the best thing since a loaf of bread and exp rings actually made leveling faster and people actually play their jobs "kinda" like it was suppose to.
All the recent changes HAVE made it more accessible for "casual" players yet while still having things out there for those who are hardcore, like crafting remaining relatively unchanged, adding new battle fields and voidwatch.

[QUOTE=Inafking;191619I also have trouble believeing anyone has taken a wep not native to their main job past 200. I tried for days to get past 200 with staff, club, dagger, polearm and greatsword with my PLD. The mobs are either too weak and will give no skill ups or too tough and won't give skill ups. I have sience given up.[/QUOTE]

Leech war to 90, put your perle on and go to the boyahda tree with /dnc45 with a low level (preferably with +acc) weapon of every type, acc food or skillup food, try for martial master when it's available. Leave when you hit 250 on everything and head to aby and grab some mnk mobs with regen atmas on (and a rdm friend wiuth 5/5 phaslanx 2 if you have 1).

Oh look, all of your weapons are capped (apart from katana and GK). Doesn't take long to unlock all of the quested WS either (took me 2 hours to help a friend with retribution from him activating quest, to him unlocking the WS. That includes chocoing from tahrongi twice. I was on rdm and didn't melee at all to make SCs for him, he had no trouble making level 2 solo).

The OP's asshurt is palpable.

Nothing in FFXI is difficult if you are capable joining a linkshell and even less if you are capable of making friends.

I love the parts of the thread where people use "test server" and "fun" in the same post though. I literally started laughing when I read some of them. People actually think that test servers are there so they can get a special sneak peeks/preview of the next update(hilarious!).

No.Your ass is there to do QA work and help stop broken and boring features from making into release. Pick any of the previous updates and there is bound to be something broken either functionally (discoids suddenly doing 10k damage) or fundamentally(evolith's not having a purpose). The test server was opened to lessen the chances of that happening.

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Originally Posted by Rearden

My goal is to be the very best, like no one ever was.

To beat the game is my real test, acting childish without pause.

I will travel across the land, leeching far and wide.

I won't cast haste or swap my gear, with my playstyle you will abide.

Rosina, it's you and me. I know it is my destiny.

Rosina, oh you're my best friend. It's this world of Vana d'iel we must defend.

Rosina, a heart so true, only our courage will pull us through.

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you are my hero

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Originally Posted by Inafking

The test server is more fun than the real game.

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Just think of all that fun you'll be having after the updates when there's nothing to test.