WoTG - Campaign

while we talking about Campaign anyone know a good way to take over a zone? or can it only be done during campaign battles. I got sigil and killed yags for afew hours and all it seemed to do was lower their morale, went from near full to almost nothing.

its a shame that the Intel Ops Slaughter house only lower the fortification by 1-2, but they seem to get that back almost instantly

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Originally Posted by Ryce

I bump your bump kind sir.

We need to keep our Campaign petitions up front until we get an answer (that we don't like). There are a lot of good ideas on these forums for Campaign improvements that seem appropriate, balanced, and doable. SE - Please hear our cries!

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yeah there ar a lot of Threads about Campaign and some ideas ar VERY VERY Nice but SE has nothing better to do as Ignore them like Campaign dosn really exist this makes me very sad for the most people Campaign looks boring but there ar still people doing Campaign for fun or for a Challenge ( keeping areas or trying to get Northlands ) you cant tell me the didn notice all the Campaign threads.............

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Originally Posted by Tile

while we talking about Campaign anyone know a good way to take over a zone? or can it only be done during campaign battles. I got sigil and killed yags for afew hours and all it seemed to do was lower their morale, went from near full to almost nothing.

its a shame that the Intel Ops Slaughter house only lower the fortification by 1-2, but they seem to get that back almost instantly

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please dont waste your OP's for Slaughterhouse take the Aegis Scream or Smokescreen highest one this helps your nation a lot !

back to topic
it is VERY VERY easy to take control over the beastmen zones just kill them without "Allied Tags" you can even get Sandy or Bastok Areas for Windurst if you want to do it like this :D

the bad site of this story is if you do it without a Allied Tag you wont get anything no thank you no Allied Notes or EXP this is one of the Reason why i think the Campaign System need a Revamp or whatever it is called !

just a little info about Fortification and why Slaugtherhouse is a wasting OP and probably only good for quick XP on a mule
each time if a Beastmen or Nation force spawns the Fortification gets +10 points so if you ar willing to get More Areas for your nation you have to keep this in your mind !

Step 1 Fortification 150 = 15 Kills til the Enemys ar retreating
Step 2 Fortification 140 = 14 Kills til the Enemys ar retreating
Step 3 Fortifcation 126 = 13 Kills til the Enemys ar retreating ( just incase the were not double spawns = 2 armys )
Step 4 Fortifacation 113 = 12 Kills til the Enemys ar retreating

this works til 100 if you keep them down you only have to kill 9-10 Beastmen which should help you a lot to keep the Beastmen influence down and your nation's influence up or even capped

i know my english is a bit broken but i guess you got the idea how taking other Areas works
its always 10% of the Fortification til your buddys or the Enemys ar going to leave
1 Enemy = 1 Fortifaction point
1 Allied nation guy = 1 Fortifiaction point

only for the Defending people Attacking people dosn count for anything and the Belfry NPCs dosn count for any points or loses

Campaign totally needs more love from the developers.

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Originally Posted by Mirage

Campaign totally needs more love from the developers.

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so where ar the Forum-Messenger-Boys here is a important message from a sweetycat to the devteam!

Still nothing? sad story...

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Originally Posted by Dudelsack

Still nothing? sad story...

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Indeed :/ MOAR PLZ SE!

We should Like every post in this thread repeatedly, that might get their attention.

Good to see people haven't given up on campaign updates. Hopefully one day it will be revitalized again. *crosses fingers*

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Originally Posted by Caketime

We should Like every post in this thread repeatedly, that might get their attention.

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this would be awesome <3

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Originally Posted by Vagrua

Good to see people haven't given up on campaign updates. Hopefully one day it will be revitalized again. *crosses fingers*

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thx i'm glad to see there ar still people for campaign

Having done Campaign for the first time in months, I have to say, one of the biggest things SE needs to change with campaign is the messages, and, if possible, some kind of Campaign progression meter/NPC. I suggest this instead of a faster-refreshing campaign map because I am aware that that would probably be too much strain on the servers or whatever.

The messages, as they are, can be helpful if you know how to read them correctly (That is, enemy forces being deployed to areas owned by Allied Forces will have a battle soon and vice versa). I suggest that the following

-The messages also read how long it will take said forces to reach the area. EX:

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The Quadav Shieldwarrior's Dadough Vanguard has been dispatched to South Gustaberg. They will arrive there in 4 hours (12 minutes Earth time)!

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-Add message for when the force arrives at said area. EX:

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The Quadav Shieldwarrior's Dadough Vanguard has arrived at South Gustaberg.
A Campaign Battle has begun in South Gustaberg.
The Shadowclaw Devastators have been dispatched to South Gustaberg. They will arrive there in 6 hours (18 minutes Earth Time)!

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As for a campaign progression meter/NPC, simply add an NPC that will tell us how many enemy units are left in an area that has a campaign battle in progress, the amount, if any, of forces advancing towards that area, and the condition of the fort (I assume there's some sort of hidden % on the fort's HP or a time limit that determines when the defending forces lose). As it is, it's very discouraging to jump into campaign when I'm not sure a battle will only last 5 minutes or 2 hours. Bastion may be annoying to do, but at least it's pretty much consistent, and I know when it's going to happen, even from town.

These are, of course, assuming that the game has some sort of set-timer for when advancing forces arrive in an area, rather than some kind of hidden meter that determines when a campaign battle begins and then has the enemy force just appear a certain amount of time after the batter begins. If this instead is the case, then it's even easier- give us a percentage meter similar to the one for Bastion to know when the battle will start.

i guess i keep a track on the Days til any of the Devteamguys reply here

lets start with Day 1 from now......

Gonna be counting alot of days~

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Originally Posted by Demon6324236

Gonna be counting alot of days~

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yeah probably but there ar some games i want / and can play and still cry loud here for updates til anything happens i know this sounds crazy but i like the idea from Charilyn (short version SE lost 2 customer for now)

Perhaps we should compile our list of suggestions into one, easy-to-deliver post that we can all "like" and the community team can pick up on. Let's call this post v0.1 :

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1. Allow skill-ups on campaign mobs (you can exclude fortifications if you like).

2. Better reporting on the status of current and future campaign battles (time till arrival, remaining mobs in zone, etc).

3. Player-initiated offensive campaign battles (spend Op Credits/Allied Notes to queue attack on specified area).

4. Auto-reraise at the conclusion of campaign battle.

5. Level 99 versions of campaign armor or new unique rewards for Allied Notes.

6. Warping to Beastmen Strongholds.

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I'm sure I missed some good ones. Help me distill the ideas from this and similar threads so we can compile our master list.

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Originally Posted by Ryce

Perhaps we should compile our list of suggestions into one, easy-to-deliver post that we can all "like" and the community team can pick up on. Let's call this post v0.1 :

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1. Allow skill-ups on campaign mobs (you can exclude fortifications if you like).

2. Better reporting on the status of current and future campaign battles (time till arrival, remaining mobs in zone, etc).

3. Player-initiated offensive campaign battles (spend Op Credits/Allied Notes to queue attack on specified area).

4. Auto-reraise at the conclusion of campaign battle.

5. Level 99 versions of campaign armor or new unique rewards for Allied Notes.

6. Warping to Beastmen Strongholds.

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I'm sure I missed some good ones. Help me distill the ideas from this and similar threads so we can compile our master list.

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sounds good to me !

there is still a large problem with "Funding" any Allied Forces ar very Unbalanced against any Enemy Forces (short version no ppl no wins )

dunno if this happend on another server before but i guess Leviathan is a Campaign friendly Server ^^
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...016_231345.png

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Originally Posted by Kriegsgott

dunno if this happend on another server before but i guess Leviathan is a Campaign friendly Server ^^
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...016_231345.png

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lvl 44 NAOW need moar xp !

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Originally Posted by Kriegsgott

dunno if this happend on another server before but i guess Leviathan is a Campaign friendly Server ^^
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...016_231345.png

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this was one of my best campaign days lets keep going !

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Originally Posted by Kriegsgott

dunno if this happend on another server before but i guess Leviathan is a Campaign friendly Server ^^
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...016_231345.png

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Target ---> Shadowlord S

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Originally Posted by Kriegsgott

i guess i keep a track on the Days til any of the Devteamguys reply here

lets start with Day 1 from now......

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I made my campain thread here on July-18-2011. Its oct-17-2012 now.. so i hope you know how to count pretty high'

I wish I could join you Levi guys :(.

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Originally Posted by Godofgods

I made my campain thread here on July-18-2011. Its oct-17-2012 now.. so i hope you know how to count pretty high'

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dude i'm a galka i cant count high all i can is eating Tarutarus and blame the Dev-Tracker team and Mining for Bastok!

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Originally Posted by Mirage

I wish I could join you Levi guys :(.

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same! would be awesome to have all the Campaign Addicts at one Server :D

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Originally Posted by Kriegsgott

dude i'm a galka i cant count high all i can is eating Tarutarus and blame the Dev-Tracker team and Mining for Bastok!

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damn... so close...
Was going good till you mentioned eating tarus...
Now youll have to pay'
/sigh

whats wrong with eating Taru's ? :D

They taste bad. At least the ones in Windurst do.

Tarus are delicious when simmered in sauces. Mm, sauces.

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Originally Posted by Caketime

Tarus are delicious when simmered in sauces. Mm, sauces.

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yummie yummie!

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Originally Posted by Mirage

They taste bad. At least the ones in Windurst do.

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try Taru-sausages from a Galka shop the taste always GOOD ! :D

I'll give you a bad stomach for weeks!

You wouldn't get eaten. Instead, you get to watch.

I'm a Taru and fight side by side with Kriegsgott and didn got eaten :D

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Originally Posted by Babekeke

I'll give you a bad stomach for weeks!

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even with my very spice delicous special galka sauce?
i guess you ar the last Tarutaru then :D

btw we ar offtopic now or ?

back to the core!

Dear SE i want to do Fiat Lux anyhow if you dont mind do something about Campaign yes ? thxbye!

btw here is something to think about it just started to get a idea in my mind but i let you people think about....

Sandy vs Orc
Bastok vs Quadav
Windurst vs Yagudo
Jeuno vs ???
Shadowlord vs ALL !

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Originally Posted by Kjara

I think Campaign battle monsters rate at least decent challenge to lv99

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I seriously doubt this is the case for most campaign mobs. Perhaps some of the NMs, but even that is just a maybe.

When I can tank 4 campaign mobs on dnc/war with berserk up and not using fan dance, it's kind of doubtful that they are even higher than level 70.

highest I ever skilled to pre-nerf was A ranked 66 caps against the fodder mobs (Quadavs in Passhow [S]). It was pretty slow going on them too, so was probably getting pretty close to capping out on them.

i wish i could pay for this game like the DEVteam works on suggestions and all the other stuff.....

I'm feeling optimistic ... this is our week! The Dev team has been pouring over years of Campaign suggestions, complaints, and statistics and finally... great news about the future of Campaign!

Surely the Community Rep team will deliver!

Bad news is everywhere atm, doubt it.

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Originally Posted by Demon6324236

Bad news is everywhere atm, doubt it.

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That is indeed true, seems like nothing but bad news these past few months, empty promises of TH gears, broken promises of new avatar, disastrous launch of new contents, you name it, when it's bad, it's here front and center.

This thread is red hot and viewed at least over 4000 times, and yet still goes unanswered by the developers. People are asking for adjustment to be made on content that is enjoyed by many and hoping get fixed to be even more enticing. Yet so far we are getting nothing here, not even a single response. And we are not even talking about blinkers fiasco, money printing gears from abysea, and a hot mess of Legion + Neo Nyzul here...