Neo Dynamis - Beaucedine

I like the New Dynamis simply for this reason. It gave the opportunity for people who have never been able to enter (real life commitments, work, school, families etc) without having to join a Dynamis LS and commit 3 + hours twice a week and be subjected to the horror of "The Greed Syndrome" and the LS Leaders "Favoritism" factor.

Did a Basty run for fun today, not the win, just for fun. We got 3/5 people a piece of Relic, a couple coins, relic weapons and junk stuff. Nothing too outstanding perhaps, but everyone enjoyed themselves.

I am sure that most people doing Dynamis now have figured out how to do each zone efficiently, or, are on their way to figuring it out. Instead of calling people's "mentality" into question because you are annoyed OP, give it more time, sit down and re-configure your strategies.

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If you think the changes are good, make the argument and give reasons. Share your positive experiences with Dynamis as I have shared my negative experiences. That is how people constructively discuss something instead of dismissing a point without even understanding it, though I suppose asking someone of your mental stature to "understand" something is a fruitless endeavor.

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Am I the only one who reads this as "let's have a civil conversation, you idiot;" or did I miss something?

To the original topic: I think some of your concerns are valid - like the proc system. I don't have an issue with it existing, but certainly does seem a bit clumsier than the one in Abyssea.

Specifically to the preservation of your Dynamis LS, I would have to side with some of the previous respondants in that this merely requires a change to the LSs approach to Dynamis, or potentially, a change to the event the LS exists for. If you have been playing together a long time, stick together - find a way to approach Dynamis, or change it into an Empyrean Weapon LS or something. Don't let your dislike for the new Dynamis destroy the community you have built - regardless if your dislike is founded or not - have fun with friends.

Good luck man, I hope things work out for you one way or another.

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Sell price on the NPC-able stuff was nerfed by 90%.

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This was never worthwhile even before the nerf.

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Currency drop rates were nerfed.

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If you consistently proc, the rates are fine. If you factor the fact that lots of people sell their currency and people can go in at basically any time and every day, currency production is probably up, especially given that a lot of people had quit dynamis around or before abyssea came out.

Currency prices on shiva have dropped noticably.

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Hydra corps are harder than any other dynamis mob.

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They always were. There's no problem here

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Originally Posted by Vold

People need to realize that already and move on before they retardedly kill a good thing for themselves.

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It's interesting that you know what's good for me and my linkshell. Before neo-dynamis evolved, my linkshell was doing full clears of even Windurst (the hardest city to full clear) in just barely over 2 hours. Full clears (thanks to the changes in TH) were starting to net us over 400 singles every single run, and we had started having melees kill the stones as well which meant more frequent hundos (usually 1-3 per run, sometimes 0, sometimes 5). So averaging about 580 coins in 2 hours. What's your best take in a 2 hour run of neo dynamis?

We did it for coins, and now we have to spend more man-hours per coin than we used to. It's most likely that after our current sponsor finishes, we'll do away with the sponsorship system and instead let coins free-fall. Dynamis will become the domain of people who just want to make some gil. Much better than the evil greed which used to run rampant in Dynamis, right?

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Originally Posted by Octaviane

I like the New Dynamis simply for this reason. It gave the opportunity for people who have never been able to enter (real life commitments, work, school, families etc) without having to join a Dynamis LS and commit 3 + hours twice a week and be subjected to the horror of "The Greed Syndrome" and the LS Leaders "Favoritism" factor.

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That is perhaps the single worst thing about old Dynamis. In old Dynamis, you had to rely on other people. And frankly, most people suck. I'm glad that you have gotten some enjoyment out of the changed Dynamis. My primary worry about that, however, is that you, and people in a similar situation as you, will ultimately get tired of the new Dynamis a little too quickly. It's very easy to get AF2 now, so unless you know someone trying for a relic weapon, I don't think the casual players who recently had Dynamis opened to them will continue doing Dynamis very long, though perhaps the desire to make gil off selling currency will prove me wrong. Regardless, I would have rather seen the AF2 added to some other old event (like campaign) or add the AF2 to a new event (like the new burning circle battles) than see Dynamis changed the way it has.

Anyways, I'm getting off track here. What I'm really trying to say here: Beaucedine is significantly harder than the other neo Dynamis zones, which really makes no sense. I think Xarc should either be made harder, or Beauc should be made easier.

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Originally Posted by Annahya

Am I the only one who reads this as "let's have a civil conversation, you idiot;" or did I miss something?

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That was actually exactly what I was going for. I was trolling the troll. Not my proudest moment ever, but I could hardly resist the chance to take a few jabs at him.

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To the original topic: I think some of your concerns are valid - like the proc system. I don't have an issue with it existing, but certainly does seem a bit clumsier than the one in Abyssea.

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Actually, I think I must have phrased my original point poorly. What I meant to say was more along the lines of "Although I dislike pretty much all the changes of Dynamis, I think Beaucedine in particular is borked and should be re-examined." I'd like it if there were 2 copies of each timestone, one set of stones on the upper path (for people going after neo-NMs) and one set of stones on the lower path (for people farming currency). I also think the strength of the hydra corps should be re-examined since they put the kindred to shame.

Well, I can't really agree with any part of your post, because I like the new dynamis. I like how I don't need to devote a 4 hour block of time to it, and how there's actually new stuff in it.

The only thing I can agree with is the new area is huge and having to go all over the place for the time extensions means a lot of unnecessary running in comparison to every other area.

Prices really down on shiva? They are way up on valefor :(

Prices are up about 3k/piece on Lakshmi. I think it'll either go down once people realize they can duo ~200 currency a night, or all those people will decide they're doing relic weapons and it'll stay high.

I noticed that a lot of the stage 2 and 3 ah items started selling much faster after the update.

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Originally Posted by Bumbeen

I noticed that a lot of the stage 2 and 3 ah items started selling much faster after the update.

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Nothing to do with relic weapons.

Bronzepieces have dropped from 16k ish to 13k ish. Largely because lots of people farming sandy now, and it's probably the easiest area to farm in.