Scrub DNC advice.

<_< He also forgot to factor in Haste Samba when he was doing the math.

Victory March + Advancing March = You don't wear any DW in gear.

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Originally Posted by Urat

That's all without using haste samba of course. When you add in haste samba you could probably swap out one piece of dual wield gear out for something better. Except instead you should be asking for minuet + march, as that'd be a far more significant increase to our damage.

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Do you not know how to read? =/

Anything I read about dnc posted by urat just makes me cringe..

Anyway, alot depends on how you like to play is what I say to people. Dnc as a hybrid job can naturally fill in many roles, and needs several gearsets to make it work. A good haste/tp set is needed for support or party play obviously, if you are soloing alot you might want to take the time to make a decent eva set early on. Most of AF3 set can be used in a TP set (minus hands which should be only macroed in for specific things), and taking the time to get both af1 and af2 sets to macro in for certain things would be good too.

Dnc does very well in aby. I had 5/5 fan dance but with a decent eva set it really isnt needed that often. Some situations its worth it, or if you are pulling, but I never have much problem as dnc/war with capped eva, 1 agi/eva kila+2 and a single eva atma. Even when Im fighting NMs I will usually only use fan dance if things are going bad and I need to pad out what I have to get myself back to full hp and get things back under control.

In exp pts as someone said already you'll probably just be pulling. Otherwise dnc can make a very good tank if you are using what you have to DD (biggest mistake I see alot of dncs do is just sit on their tp for cures. With how quick we can gain tp as well as reverse flourish there's no point in sitting 200-300tp all the time and not wsing). Actual DDs will still pull hate off you if they arent underskilled and are doing their job, but thats where you can switch to support to help cure them back up and it usually ends up putting more enmity back on you anyway.

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Originally Posted by Urat

Do you not know how to read? =/

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I know how to read, but it's borderline retarded to use March/Minuet over March/March unless you're literally the only DD. I do duo with my bard mule (March/Minuet) sometimes, but that's about the only situation where I'm going to have less than a full party and a bard.

Realistically, if you're in a party situation you're going to be getting March/March and should just swap to your double march set, where you drop all your DW gear for more useful stuff (Loki's Kaftan or Mirkegon, Rancor Collar, Aesir Ear Pendant, Vulcan's Pearl, or Regain Moonshade).

eva is a huge factor in not using fan dance and violent flourish shares a recast timer with reverse flourish. so you have to go by the situation, there isnt a 'best way' that you can fulltime. if you NEED stun (which you often do) then reverse flourish is a horrible idea because you could be one-shotted waiting for the recast timer.

if you dont need stun then you need to decide if you should use fan dance or sambas. i care more about living then killing fast (unless you have an empy you're not solo-zerging anyways). but i would agree with those who can build awesome haste sets because fan dance is only completely necessary for stuff that does massive damage (if you dont have a brd using sentinels scherzo). im not talented enough at dnc yet to get away with not using fan dance, but if it was my main job that would be a good goal to have.

i'd think most people lvl dnc like me, just to solo easily. so cap gear haste (24% is super easy and you can still have a ton of dual wield, 25 cap is wasteful imo) and use fan dance when needed. haste samba is a luxury so merit step acc and use stutter step when you NEED to stun with violent flourish. better to take your time then to die :P

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Originally Posted by Defiledsickness

eva is a huge factor in not using fan dance and violent flourish shares a recast timer with reverse flourish. so you have to go by the situation, there isnt a 'best way' that you can fulltime. if you NEED stun (which you often do) then reverse flourish is a horrible idea because you could be one-shotted waiting for the recast timer.

if you dont need stun then you need to decide if you should use fan dance or sambas. i care more about living then killing fast (unless you have an empy you're not solo-zerging anyways). but i would agree with those who can build awesome haste sets because fan dance is only completely necessary for stuff that does massive damage (if you dont have a brd using sentinels scherzo). im not talented enough at dnc yet to get away with not using fan dance, but if it was my main job that would be a good goal to have.

i'd think most people lvl dnc like me, just to solo easily. so cap gear haste (24% is super easy and you can still have a ton of dual wield, 25 cap is wasteful imo) and use fan dance when needed. haste samba is a luxury so merit step acc and use stutter step when you NEED to stun with violent flourish. better to take your time then to die :P

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A few things:
* Violent Flourish is Flourishes I and Reverse Flourish is Flourishes II, so they don't share a recast.
* People aim for 26% to cap Haste, not 25%.
* Don't merit Step Acc ever. You already get a 10 Acc bonus to your Steps, and they're capped at a 95% hit rate like everything else. If you have a 95% hit rate, then you have a 95% Step hit rate.

10 acc bonus from what? my steps use to miss often till i merited them, now i never miss :P

10 Acc bonus from the 10 native Step Acc bonus you get. Check out the reference. It was true for both Box and Feather step. I couldn't check Quick (because Quickstep would give me a variable hit rate) and Stutter is pretty irrelevant.

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Originally Posted by Defiledsickness

10 acc bonus from what? my steps use to miss often till i merited them, now i never miss :P

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"All the time" isn't a very accurate representation of how often you actually miss. Accuracy for anything caps at 95%, so you're going to miss at least 5% of the time no matter what. If you're actually missing more than 5%, there's steps accuracy gear and accuracy gear you could macro in for steps before resorting to useless merits. :x

Do not in any circumstance merit step accuracy.
Step accuracy merits are probably the most pointless things the SE dev team has ever released, ever.