WoEs

Didnt say i didnt understand why they didnt like me there. Just they stare at you for basically playing your own game in zone that allows it. I got plenty of kills in solo maybe not the boss but I was attacking it so why couldnt I get the drops from it. Not my fault they didnt ask me to join them when I asked to join their party. If you ask and they turn you down then they are basically telling you they dont want you to play by their rules.

The thing is, coin collecting can be done solo, while most of the NMs can't be (A MNK with a pocket WHM is not "solo."). Also, some of the NMs are in heavy competition and it can take longer than you expect to get all those items.
Also WoE weapon stage 2 and 3 are extremely simple and more or less fast, while the abyssea NMs will take some time due to needing to collect pop items.

@ above post: If you're contributing to the fight, I disagree with any notion that you shouldn't be entitled to lot. Now, there are people who stand there and do nothing then lot on stuff. But most people helped. And beating WoE#2 doesn't require rocket science, so the notion of throwing people off their strategy is nonsense unless you're being a Leeroy Jenkins.

Unless your server has flux7 open, WoE is a waste of time for 30 coins.

The only thing that is going to fix the zone is making coins extremely common, removing the pointless 30min lockdown and having some way of trading in useless bags (Ruin hi) for another through an NPC.

The whole leech thing is overdone and off topic. Groups can win without leeches, leeches will have their "I'm helping so I should be able to lot!" attitude. They're referred to as leeches because they are not needed to win, and thus the group sees them as contributing nothing. The leech cannot get the main chest and bonus chest without the group, but the group can get them without the leech, and thus can miss out on coins and bonus chests when a leech is present. The view is that the leech is following them because they will get a chance to lot these extra drops that they couldn't get on their own, at the expense of the people who are able to actually do the work to earn them. Yes, some drops are still worth quite a bit of gil. A pickup group should almost always accept random people in the zone, but a non-pickup group usually won't.

Its aggravating when there are 6-7 people trying to solo or duo, and 3 or 4 follow your group into a conflux instead of teaming up with the other people and doing #2.

As to the OP:
#2 is easily done in a pickup group of a few melees / mages and a sac for the small slimes.
#5 and #7 are routinely done by pet burns. From what I've seen, its usually smn for 7, and smn and bst for 5, though I can see pup fitting in on both of those.

The worst part of WoE is the GD CS you have to do each time. They could atleast make yes the top answer so you can spam it.

The concept of a pool like Campaign has always been suspect.

WoE needs to be a point system like Einherjar.

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Originally Posted by Sparthos

Unless your server has flux7 open, WoE is a waste of time for 30 coins.

The only thing that is going to fix the zone is making coins extremely common, removing the pointless 30min lockdown and having some way of trading in useless bags (Ruin hi) for another through an NPC.

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flux 7? What's wrong with 1/2/3? 1 and 3 are easily solo/duo farmed, and 2 is easily winnable with a small group.

A campaign system would have worked okay if the event was enticing enough and was not much more difficult than campaign that people would have actually done it in greater numbers.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

flux 7? What's wrong with 1/2/3? 1 and 3 are easily solo/duo farmed, and 2 is easily winnable with a small group.

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Flux 7 has a high chance of 3-4 pouches in the pool after a win.

1/2/3 do not have that chance.

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Flux 7 has a high chance of 3-4 pouches in the pool after a win.

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Unless you can win it solo, it's a moot point.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

Unless you can win it solo, it's a moot point.

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You're wasting your time in WoE if you're solo starting from 0 coins. Go to Abyssea.

If you're doing WoE in a group, flux7 is the best bang for your buck. It can be petburned, kited easily and has that high chance of pouches.

No other flux has the rate that flux7 can have.