I hate exemplary parties

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Originally Posted by Voidstorm

for now, there is already SU5 gear, why would they not eventually add M50 gear?

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They are different systems, and most complained about that requirement so they probably wont make the same mistake.

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Originally Posted by Velner

I've done two M. Level 40 jobs in less than a week. No botting. No multi-boxing. All 6-man parties. And on a smaller server than Ragnarok. If you have 5 to 6 hours a day and know how to EP, you could have M. Level 40, too.

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If it's from lv0, I don't believe you. From level 30, maybe. but not from zero.

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Originally Posted by Immortal

but there is no reason to be max Mlevel... its not required or necessary for anything. Also nothing stops you from creating a party like 75 days... people botted during those times too.

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Because it will be a requirement for end game soon. i think i might just do what every smart player did move to 14, this game is not the same anymore

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Originally Posted by Kalimairo

Because it will be a requirement for end game soon. i think i might just do what every smart player did move to 14

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If ff14 was a serious option you could of moved to it long ago.

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Originally Posted by Tarmarkvar

5 to 6 hours a day is a pretty tall order.... most people don't have that kind of time. I agree though.

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You just break it up then. I think an hour is satisfactory here and there.

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Originally Posted by Kalimairo

Because it will be a requirement for end game soon. i think i might just do what every smart player did move to 14, this game is not the same anymore

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It's only a requirement if you are unaware of how to play the game and put yourself at the mercy of other ignorant people who only invite capped ML players.

A lot of mmorpg players like progression systems, so they added a new one. They added one with no stress to actually complete and some people still complain..

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Originally Posted by Sp1cyryan

It's only a requirement if you are unaware of how to play the game and put yourself at the mercy of other ignorant people who only invite capped ML players.

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That's true for now, but future content will factor ML in.

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i think i might just do what every smart player did move to 14, this game is not the same anymore

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FFXI players have been grinding for decades. It's honestly kind of hilarious to see someone say "imma play a different game cuz too much grind" at this point.

Every MMO, including XIV, has its share of grinding.

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Originally Posted by Kalimairo

Because it will be a requirement for end game soon. i think i might just do what every smart player did move to 14, this game is not the same anymore

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So worry about it then. By the time it became a "requirement" for you to max out job points, they had added a ton of features to make it easier. Capacity point bonuses out the wazoo, rings that boosted capacity point gains, and double capacity point campaigns. The grind we are seeing right now with exemplar points is essentially the "early adopter penalty" in which things are often more expensive when they are newer. Early adopters know this and don't really care. Most people just wait for the price to come down.

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Originally Posted by Tarmarkvar

5 to 6 hours a day is a pretty tall order.... most people don't have that kind of time. I agree though.

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Except the original poster specifically said he has 5 to 6 hours a day to play. . . his words, not mine.